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WHO'S LIABLE IF I DO GET HIT?
On Aug 21, 11:18 am, "
wrote: On Aug 20, 1:36 pm, KingOfTheApes wrote: The question is, WHO'S LIABLE IF I DO GET HIT? Don't know, but we're all going to chip in and buy him a beer. Steve You must one of those who celebrate the Law of the Jungle. I bet you got one of those bumper stickers that say, "We support our troops." |
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WHO'S LIABLE IF I DO GET HIT?
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, KingOfTheApes wrote: On Aug 21, 11:18 am, " wrote: On Aug 20, 1:36 pm, KingOfTheApes wrote: The question is, WHO'S LIABLE IF I DO GET HIT? Don't know, but we're all going to chip in and buy him a beer. Steve You must one of those who celebrate the Law of the Jungle. I bet you got one of those bumper stickers that say, "We support our troops." At least they don't whine at extended, exhaustive length, looking for someone else to blame. |
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fast motorboats sound to me like WMDs
On Aug 21, 2:10*pm, Steve Hix
wrote: In article , *KingOfTheApes wrote: On Aug 21, 11:18 am, " wrote: On Aug 20, 1:36 pm, KingOfTheApes wrote: The question is, WHO'S LIABLE IF I DO GET HIT? Don't know, but we're all going to chip in and buy him a beer. Steve You must one of those who celebrate the Law of the Jungle. I bet you got one of those bumper stickers that say, "We support our troops." At least they don't whine at extended, exhaustive length, looking for someone else to blame. They do blame somebody else: Hussein, WMDs, terrorists... But I'm talking about the safety of those very activities (green, healthy) that should be promoted, not be left to the Law of the Jungle. Hey, fast motorboats sound to me like WMDs. |
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fast motorboats sound to me like WMDs
Hey, fast motorboats sound to me like WMDs.
BFD. I kids bicycle probably sounds like them to you too. |
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how best to survive out there
(This is a contribution by the very same person who sold me the last
kayak. Reporting from the watery jungle) Flex 029 wrote: hi folks, first time here .. met Sr. Commandate Banana at my shop .. one way of dealing with this problem is to NOT paddle in these areas on weekends. when i go on any given week-DAY, there’s usually nobody around - EXCEPT for all that damn trash~ Howdy Flex, good to see you here so we can discuss how best to survive out there. I totally agree with you, and in fact I stay away from the waterways on weekends. The weekends belong to the predators, so to speak. I also canoe at night (which you told me you do too), which not makes for far fewer motorboats, but also hides the mountains of trash (yes, including batteries and mattresses) left behind by the said motorboats. (I have a bright kayak for daylight, and camouflage canoe with proper lights for night time.) As you know, the beautiful kayak I’ve got from you is as bright as sunrise (that’s the color), as well as the lights and flag I’m getting from you. So if the superfast, superbig boats don’t see me is because their drivers (I deny them “captain” status) are superdrunk and superhigh. Hey, we’ve developed the same strategy for survival! Actually it was developed by the early mammals at the time the dinosaurs ruled the earth. That’s kind of metaphorical, isn’t it? |
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how best to survive out there
I also canoe at night (which you told me you do too), which not makes
for far fewer motorboats, but also hides the mountains of trash (yes, including batteries and mattresses) left behind by the said motorboats. (I have a bright kayak for daylight, and camouflage canoe with proper lights for night time.) In all my years of boating and kayaking, I've never, ever seen a battery floating by. As far as I know, boaters aren't really well known for dumping their mattresses in the water either. Perhaps you'd like to explain why you crossposted your complaints about boaters in the Intracoastal to rec.scuba and a UK group, all of whom are extremely unlikely to even know what the Intracoastal is, let alone care about boats in it. Lee |
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how best to survive out there
In rec.boats.paddle Lee Bell wrote:
I also canoe at night (which you told me you do too), which not makes for far fewer motorboats, but also hides the mountains of trash (yes, including batteries and mattresses) left behind by the said motorboats. (I have a bright kayak for daylight, and camouflage canoe with proper lights for night time.) In all my years of boating and kayaking, I've never, ever seen a battery floating by. As far as I know, boaters aren't really well known for dumping their mattresses in the water either. Perhaps you'd like to explain why you crossposted your complaints about boaters in the Intracoastal to rec.scuba and a UK group, all of whom are extremely unlikely to even know what the Intracoastal is, let alone care about boats in it. We have a canal here called the I&M canal. Around 1996 a dam rupture caused the canal to drain exposing all sorts of stuff. We were on the bike trail the following weekend and were looking at all the recliners, washing machines and stuff in the canal. The canal is only open to canoes and kayaks and I don't think many canoeists or kayakers were taking washing machines or recliners in their boats... course, I could be wrong... Most of the larger garbage was concentrated near bridges... -- John Nelson ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chicago Area Paddling/Fishing Page http://www.chicagopaddling.org http://www.chicagofishing.org (A Non-Commercial Web Site: No Sponsors, No Paid Ads and Nothing to Sell) |
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WHO'S LIABLE IF I DO GET HIT?
wpns4l wrote:
"this thread is crazy lol. stories of lions and the jungle. do yourself a favor and carry a hand held uhf radio or something and if you see people, motorboat or not, acting like asses call the police/ coast guard." Hey, you seem to be ready for “the jungle” in that picture. Either you have big guns… or have a banana to go in there (I have to tell the metaphorical meaning of it). Anyway, I do carry a cell phone, and I assume they don’t see me. But I’m not sure that’s good or bad because then I get all stressed out over the damn boats, and it defeats the purpose of the kayak, which is to relax. In other words, I ignore them. So, I go back to one of the favorite slogans of the revolution, “Whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.” |
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WHO'S LIABLE IF I DO GET HIT?
On Aug 22, 12:37 pm, "Lee Bell" wrote:
I also canoe at night (which you told me you do too), which not makes for far fewer motorboats, but also hides the mountains of trash (yes, including batteries and mattresses) left behind by the said motorboats. (I have a bright kayak for daylight, and camouflage canoe with proper lights for night time.) In all my years of boating and kayaking, I've never, ever seen a battery floating by. As far as I know, boaters aren't really well known for dumping their mattresses in the water either. Well, there are islands on the water and the batteries are left behind on the islands. It would be mighty difficult to leave piles of garbage on the water, even if they tried. Perhaps you'd like to explain why you crossposted your complaints about boaters in the Intracoastal to rec.scuba and a UK group, all of whom are extremely unlikely to even know what the Intracoastal is, let alone care about boats in it. Lee Well, maybe they heard of the coral reefs in the tropical waters of the Caribbean dying because of all the pollution and motorboats that anchor in the wrong places. By the way, do you have many coral reefs in the UK? |
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WHO'S LIABLE IF I DO GET HIT?
KingOfTheApes wrote
Well, there are islands on the water and the batteries are left behind on the islands. I suppose it's happened, but it darned sure doesn't happen often. Boats big enough to carry batteries, don't work without them. They have to have them to start the motors. It's really unlikely that anybody would go to all the trouble to drive their boat out to an island with a spare battery on board, change the battery while on the island and go to all the touble to take the battery off the boat just so they can leave it someplace where it will later have to be collected by another power boater. It could happne, but I don't know why. It's much more likely that any batteries you round were taken to the island for use by somebody camping there. They may or may not have gotten to the island by power boat, but the batteries you see almost certainly weren't lift there because they are power boaters. Well, maybe they heard of the coral reefs in the tropical waters of the Caribbean dying because of all the pollution and motorboats that anchor in the wrong places. In more than 45 years of diving, and boating in the Caribbean, no, I've never heard of it. I have heard of them dying because of fertilizer, sewerage and other chemicals washed our from those on land who have less consideration than either you or I do. I have heard of reefs destroyed by sewage outfalls operated by Miami Dade, Broward and Palm Beach Counties. I have heard of reefs destroyed by "accidental" leaks of millions of gallons of raw sewage from Miami Dade about twice a year. I have heard of reefs destroyed by those that dispose of thousands of tires as "artificial reefs" that nothing ever lives on. Here's a clue. Gas floats. Reefs don't. Anchors don't do much damage and their use is not limited to motor boats. Sailboats and even kayaks carry them too. Lee |
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