Rodney Long wrote:



They are awesome in the ocean,, you can also get the sail kit for it,,
this pedal is better,, now the wheal peddle boats are slow as hell,,
hard to pedal, and the don't coast once you stop pedaling, this drive
has near zero drag, it will coast for long distances

OMG! Sounds too cool...I can't believe it's been around so long --
someone tell me if they invented jet-packs yet!

The only reverse is supplied by the kayak paddle, that comes with the
boat, and attached to the side of the boat with an elastic holder, it is
instantly accessible, and you can paddle and pedal the boat at the same
time (this is how my son reaches 9 miles and hour with it), or you can
just use the paddle. If the water is really skinny, (6 to 18 inches) you
can do little 1 inch pedal strokes, the fins just flap against the
hull,, it can run very fast this way. You see, unlike the regular paddle
boats, you don't have to do full strokes with your feet. It's design is
just out of this world,, the pedals can be adjusted to even fit my eight
year old grand daughter.

Thanks for the review, Rodney! How do you think it'll do against a 3-5
knot current? Is it possible to paddle and pedal at the same time for
increased propulsion? How tough is the boat? I wonder if its shell is
good enough for the very cold waters of wintertime.

Is there a downside to it at all that you can see? Or something that
you feel could be improved a bit? I'm thinking of getting the Hobie
Cat Mirage Tandem Kayak.

This boat is really worth the extra money you spend over a regular
kayak, it allows you hands free to fish while your moving, or just
holding against a current, it comes with everything except a life
jacket,, it comes with a cooler, tackle box and anchor system, even
front and rear elastic cargo nets. what I like the most is the wheel
system (that comes with it),, you can load the boat up with all your
gear and roll the thing to the water, you can roll it anywhere you can
walk with those big wheels, even across a sandy beach

Oh, sorry, but an angler I ain't! Though I enjoy seafood, for the most
part.

What do you think of the Mirage Tandem, though? While $2K is a lot of
money to me, it's still rather less than what I'd initially feared.

I hope the, what, 14-16' length doesn't mean I'll be fighting against
the water! I've paddled wooden kayaks while sometimes feel like I'm
trying to drag the thing along (of course, I'm a newbie, but the
plastic boats were more comfortable and fun).

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

NYC XYZ wrote:


Thanks for the review, Rodney! How do you think it'll do against a 3-5
knot current? Is it possible to paddle and pedal at the same time for
increased propulsion?

Absolutely


How tough is the boat? I wonder if its shell is
good enough for the very cold waters of wintertime.

It seams thicker than a regular kayak

Is there a downside to it at all that you can see? Or something that
you feel could be improved a bit? I'm thinking of getting the Hobie
Cat Mirage Tandem Kayak.

The only thing I added was more tie down points, and a rear anchor
system,, both of these are needed for fishing, other than that,, they
could replace the rudder with a very small electric motor :-) I'm
thinking of putting my own back there, it won't be hard to modify a
small trolling motor to mount on the rudder stud, this way you could
even have power, and a reverse, if your really wanted the ultiment PWC


Oh, sorry, but an angler I ain't! Though I enjoy seafood, for the most
part.

What do you think of the Mirage Tandem, though? While $2K is a lot of
money to me, it's still rather less than what I'd initially feared.

Man they say that thing is really fast, the wife wants me to get one of
those for the family

I hope the, what, 14-16' length doesn't mean I'll be fighting against
the water! I've paddled wooden kayaks while sometimes feel like I'm
trying to drag the thing along (of course, I'm a newbie, but the
plastic boats were more comfortable and fun).

There is no drag on my OutBack,, it will coast forever, it feels like


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

wrote...

Is a motivated 'yakker that good, to paddle at 5.4 knots?? I hear that
3 knots is a lot of work...or do I have water in my ears....

Read the reviews in Sea Kayaker. Many of the boats tested can be pushed
above 5 knots. I've seen 6 knots in my 18' Epic, but not for very long.
Cruising at 4 knots isn't much of a feat in a touring boat. No comment
about your ears.

No wind/current, I cruise at 3 knots in my home-built Pygmy Coho with minimal
("I can do this all day") effort. I can go 4 knots with significant effort; but
can barely hit 5, which appears to be "hull speed."

These have been verified several times by GPS. Anyone else have numbers for
their kayaks?

On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 14:06:24 -0800, "John Weiss"
wrote:

wrote...

Is a motivated 'yakker that good, to paddle at 5.4 knots?? I hear that
3 knots is a lot of work...or do I have water in my ears....

Read the reviews in Sea Kayaker. Many of the boats tested can be pushed
above 5 knots. I've seen 6 knots in my 18' Epic, but not for very long.
Cruising at 4 knots isn't much of a feat in a touring boat. No comment
about your ears.

No wind/current, I cruise at 3 knots in my home-built Pygmy Coho with minimal
("I can do this all day") effort. I can go 4 knots with significant effort; but
can barely hit 5, which appears to be "hull speed."

These have been verified several times by GPS. Anyone else have numbers for
their kayaks?

I do about 2.8 knots in a 13 foot Manteo tupperware boat, and almost always
do so, regardless of the length of the trip. In short bursts I can push it
up to about 5.5, though not for long at all. I have a GPS mount on my
kayak, and virtually always clip one in.

Galen Hekhuis NpD, JFR, GWA
We are the CroMagnon of the future

Excellent! Thanks again, Rodney...say, do I get a discount if I tell
'em you sent me? =)

Hope your wife gets the Tandem, too...and you your electric trolling
motor!



Rodney Long wrote:
NYC XYZ wrote:


Thanks for the review, Rodney! How do you think it'll do against a 3-5
knot current? Is it possible to paddle and pedal at the same time for
increased propulsion?

Absolutely


How tough is the boat? I wonder if its shell is
good enough for the very cold waters of wintertime.

It seams thicker than a regular kayak

Is there a downside to it at all that you can see? Or something that
you feel could be improved a bit? I'm thinking of getting the Hobie
Cat Mirage Tandem Kayak.

The only thing I added was more tie down points, and a rear anchor
system,, both of these are needed for fishing, other than that,, they
could replace the rudder with a very small electric motor :-) I'm
thinking of putting my own back there, it won't be hard to modify a
small trolling motor to mount on the rudder stud, this way you could
even have power, and a reverse, if your really wanted the ultiment PWC


Oh, sorry, but an angler I ain't! Though I enjoy seafood, for the most
part.

What do you think of the Mirage Tandem, though? While $2K is a lot of
money to me, it's still rather less than what I'd initially feared.

Man they say that thing is really fast, the wife wants me to get one of
those for the family

I hope the, what, 14-16' length doesn't mean I'll be fighting against
the water! I've paddled wooden kayaks while sometimes feel like I'm
trying to drag the thing along (of course, I'm a newbie, but the
plastic boats were more comfortable and fun).

There is no drag on my OutBack,, it will coast forever, it feels like


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

NYC XYZ wrote:
Excellent! Thanks again, Rodney...say, do I get a discount if I tell
'em you sent me? =)

Depends on where you buy it,, if in TN. yep I can give you a $100 dollar
discount at one dealer

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Rodney Long wrote:


Depends on where you buy it,, if in TN. yep I can give you a $100 dollar
discount at one dealer

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread
Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures,
Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com



Hmm...depends on how much he's chargin' to begin with! And sometimes
they make it up with "S&H"...the cheapest price seems to be from
tshack.com in FL @ ~$1960.

Thanks again for bring it up. I can't wait to show it to my kayak
club! I don't think any of them are snooty and wouldn't look down on
folding 'yaks, inflatables, etc.

Hey, folks!

I wrote Shuttle Bike and just thought I should share the info:

Its pontoons got upgraded to double-chamber pontoons, and it's
available until the end of this month for US$890.00, freight inclusive!

Unfortunately, they seem like they only do wire transfers and
PayPal....



NYC XYZ wrote:
Oh, my. Oh wow!

Hmm...~25-lb. kit? No need for a First Light folding kayak now!

Wonder how much that costs?

How fast is 10mph on water?

Wonder what Class it can take on....


Looks like Europeans have more fun!



NYC XYZ wrote:
Steven M. O'Neill wrote:
NYC XYZ wrote:
Or Newark from Bayonne?

http://www.gizmag.com/go/2505/

--
Steven O'Neill
Brooklyn, NY



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