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What is this "pin" thing called?
Brian Sharrock wrote: "Mike1" wrote in message ... In old "pirate" movies, you'll sometimes see, during a fight, a man pull out a special-shaped wooden pin or club and use it as a weapon. Sometimes he has one or more on him, but often he yanks it from a mounting bracket on the rail of the ship (where there appear to be many of things, for, I presume, tying down lines to tack the sails). Question: Do these pins have a specific name? Answer: Yes! -couldn't resist the temptation to Question: what is the specific name for the items discussed? Answer: Belaying pins. Ropes, line, halyards, sheets etc, etc, are belayed onto the appropriate pin so that the rope-work looks tiddly and Bristol fashion and that the crew can fumble in the dark and select the correct piece of string. Note that the rope-work is _not_ tied-off in a knot or bend which may jam but they are wound around the head of the pin and the tail of the pin - belayed - then the remaining length is coiled and handed onto to head of the pin. Hope that helps -- Brian almost there Belaying pins actually function as a machine. The pin protudes through the pin rail. the "rope" comes down vertically past the pinrail and a "turn" is takn around the tail of the pin. This changes the angle of pull 90 degrees and allows more people to pull on the rope than if it just came down vertically. The rope can also be attached to a windlass. Friction between the rope and the pin rail adds to the work load, but in a trained crew is also used to grab the rope while you change hands or tie off the rope. the rope is tied off by taking a "hitch" in the rope in which the standing part is crossed over itself and dropped over the top of the pin. Pulling on the rope tightens down the "belay knot" (yes its a knot) on the head of the pin if the load is very heavy and you need more friction you can take a second belay by taking a second turn aroun the tail and making a "double belay". Vince |
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What is this "pin" thing called?
"Vince Brannigan" wrote in message
... [ SNIP ] Belaying pins actually function as a machine. The pin protudes through the pin rail. the "rope" comes down vertically past the pinrail and a "turn" is takn around the tail of the pin. This changes the angle of pull 90 degrees and allows more people to pull on the rope than if it just came down vertically. The rope can also be attached to a windlass. Friction between the rope and the pin rail adds to the work load, but in a trained crew is also used to grab the rope while you change hands or tie off the rope. the rope is tied off by taking a "hitch" in the rope in which the standing part is crossed over itself and dropped over the top of the pin. Pulling on the rope tightens down the "belay knot" (yes its a knot) on the head of the pin if the load is very heavy and you need more friction you can take a second belay by taking a second turn aroun the tail and making a "double belay". All you guys know a little bit too much, which is disgusting me. I will soon expound on either the exact details of how early 19th century cannons were secured (complete with the nomenclature of the ropes), or ruminate on careening, or perhaps speculate at length on the design of galley oar blades. AHS |
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What is this "pin" thing called?
You obviously havrn't sailed on my boat.
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What is this "pin" thing called?
Am Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:59:39 -0400, schrieb "Arved Sandstrom"
: All you guys know a little bit too much, which is disgusting me. I will soon expound on either the exact details of how early 19th century cannons were secured (complete with the nomenclature of the ropes), or ruminate on careening, or perhaps speculate at length on the design of galley oar blades. But this is not ancient, useless knowledge, if you ever go sailing on an old sailing boat. :-) Owe -- My from-adress is valid and being read. www.owejessen.de |
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What is this "pin" thing called?
"Vince Brannigan" wrote in message ... Belaying pins actually function as a machine. The pin protudes through snip good info Also for flying scenery (moderately useless trivia info): see http://www.arts.ubc.ca/TheatreDesign...spc/flies1.pdf Regards, Barry |
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What is this "pin" thing called?
BF Lake wrote: "Vince Brannigan" wrote in message ... Belaying pins actually function as a machine. The pin protudes through snip good info Also for flying scenery (moderately useless trivia info): see http://www.arts.ubc.ca/TheatreDesign...spc/flies1.pdf Our fly loft at my High school was built in 1896. It is exactly as described. Vince |
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What is this "pin" thing called?
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 10:23:41 GMT, Vince Brannigan
is illeged to have opined: Brian Sharrock wrote: "Mike1" wrote in message ... In old "pirate" movies, you'll sometimes see, during a fight, a man pull out a special-shaped wooden pin or club and use it as a weapon. Sometimes he has one or more on him, but often he yanks it from a mounting bracket on the rail of the ship (where there appear to be many of things, for, I presume, tying down lines to tack the sails). Question: Do these pins have a specific name? Answer: Yes! -couldn't resist the temptation to Question: what is the specific name for the items discussed? Answer: Belaying pins. Ropes, line, halyards, sheets etc, etc, are belayed onto the appropriate pin so that the rope-work looks tiddly and Bristol fashion and that the crew can fumble in the dark and select the correct piece of string. Note that the rope-work is _not_ tied-off in a knot or bend which may jam but they are wound around the head of the pin and the tail of the pin - belayed - then the remaining length is coiled and handed onto to head of the pin. Hope that helps -- Brian almost there Belaying pins actually function as a machine. The pin protudes through the pin rail. snippage Vince For the TRULY detail driven, the pin's rail was known as a Fife Rail. The belaying pin's holes in the wooden rail caused the wood to resemble a fife. HP sends |
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What is this "pin" thing called?
Vince Brannigan wrote: Brian Sharrock wrote: "Mike1" wrote in message ... In old "pirate" movies, you'll sometimes see, during a fight, a man pull out a special-shaped wooden pin or club and use it as a weapon. Sometimes he has one or more on him, but often he yanks it from a mounting bracket on the rail of the ship (where there appear to be many of things, for, I presume, tying down lines to tack the sails). Question: Do these pins have a specific name? Answer: Yes! -couldn't resist the temptation to Question: what is the specific name for the items discussed? Answer: Belaying pins. Ropes, line, halyards, sheets etc, etc, are belayed onto the appropriate pin so that the rope-work looks tiddly and Bristol fashion and that the crew can fumble in the dark and select the correct piece of string. Note that the rope-work is _not_ tied-off in a knot or bend which may jam but they are wound around the head of the pin and the tail of the pin - belayed - then the remaining length is coiled and handed onto to head of the pin. Hope that helps -- Brian almost there Belaying pins actually function as a machine. The pin protudes through the pin rail. the "rope" comes down vertically past the pinrail and a "turn" is takn around the tail of the pin. This changes the angle of pull 90 degrees and allows more people to pull on the rope than if it just came down vertically. The rope can also be attached to a windlass. Friction between the rope and the pin rail adds to the work load, but in a trained crew is also used to grab the rope while you change hands or tie off the rope. the rope is tied off by taking a "hitch" in the rope in which the standing part is crossed over itself and dropped over the top of the pin. Pulling on the rope tightens down the "belay knot" (yes its a knot) on the head of the pin if the load is very heavy and you need more friction you can take a second belay by taking a second turn aroun the tail and making a "double belay". Vince Actually, I learned how to do that in my high school theater, which had a fully functional pin rail for all the crap the scenery folks wanted hung in the air over the actors heads. We did have much more, ummm, colorful names for them though. --Dale |
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What is this "pin" thing called?
In article ,
Dale Farmer wrote: Actually, I learned how to do that in my high school theater, which had a fully functional pin rail for all the crap the scenery folks wanted hung in the air over the actors heads. We did have much more, ummm, colorful names for them though. I now realize that I should thank my lucky stars that I have only tread the boards under counterweighted fly pipes. |
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What is this "pin" thing called?
Richard Bell wrote: In article , Dale Farmer wrote: Actually, I learned how to do that in my high school theater, which had a fully functional pin rail for all the crap the scenery folks wanted hung in the air over the actors heads. We did have much more, ummm, colorful names for them though. I now realize that I should thank my lucky stars that I have only tread the boards under counterweighted fly pipes. You are no safer because of a counterweighted system than a hemp house. I think that you would actually be safer in a hemp house, as there, ALL the folks doing rigging know how to tie the correct knots correctly, and are generally more careful in their actions. Barring a visit from Davie Dimmers of course, then all bets are off. --Dale (( Davie Dimmers is a ( hopefully ) mythical character who is forever doing really clever, stupid and dangerous things in technical theatre. I believe he is an invention of Clive Mitchell . )) |
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