On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:28:20 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


How do you reduce taxes for 95 percent of the so called "working class"
when 40 percent don't pay any to begin with?


I keep hearing this myth. *All* working Americans pay taxes. While the
lowest quintile is only 4.3%, and the second quintile is only 9.9%, they
still pay taxes.

On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:51:12 -0500, thunder wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:28:20 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


How do you reduce taxes for 95 percent of the so called "working class"
when 40 percent don't pay any to begin with?


I keep hearing this myth. *All* working Americans pay taxes. While the
lowest quintile is only 4.3%, and the second quintile is only 9.9%, they
still pay taxes.

I should have posted the link.

http://mediamatters.org/static/image...s-20081016.gif

On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:58:16 -0500, thunder wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:51:12 -0500, thunder wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:28:20 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


How do you reduce taxes for 95 percent of the so called "working class"
when 40 percent don't pay any to begin with?


I keep hearing this myth. *All* working Americans pay taxes. While the
lowest quintile is only 4.3%, and the second quintile is only 9.9%, they
still pay taxes.

I should have posted the link.

http://mediamatters.org/static/image...s-20081016.gif

It doesn't address sales tax that hits the poorest the hardest. Good link
just the same.

On Oct 31, 12:51*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:28:20 -0400, Eisboch wrote:
How do you reduce taxes for 95 percent of the so called "working class"
when 40 percent don't pay any to begin with?

I keep hearing this myth. **All* working Americans pay taxes. *While the
lowest quintile is only 4.3%, and the second quintile is only 9.9%, they
still pay taxes.

Most people, when talking about paying taxes, are talking only about
federal income taxes. In that case it's not a myth, it's true.

You're quoting effective rates including FICA, and that's why the rate
turns into a positive number for the lower quintiles. However, you're
leaving out the fact that EIC effectively rebates the FICA payments
(and is tied to it), so including that we're back to people getting
more money back than they actually pay in.

Hence the truism that many people pay no taxes.

On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:51:12 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:28:20 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


How do you reduce taxes for 95 percent of the so called "working class"
when 40 percent don't pay any to begin with?

I keep hearing this myth. *All* working Americans pay taxes. While the
lowest quintile is only 4.3%, and the second quintile is only 9.9%, they
still pay taxes.

We need to correct something here - we're talking about income taxes.

Not FICA or any of the other taxes which everybody pays - income
taxes.

Besides - it doesn't matter anyway. The Obamabots (meaning his
surrogates) can't seem to get their messages straight. Obama said
$250,000 then amended to $200,000 which Biden amended to $150,000
which Bill Richardson amended to $120,000 and pretty soon I expect
Barney and Nancy to amend that to $100,000 and Reid to put it at
$80,000.

And let's not forget Barney's "increase by 25%" comment.

Know what - I may join Harry in Costa Rica.

Um...on second thought... :)

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:51:12 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:28:20 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


How do you reduce taxes for 95 percent of the so called "working class"
when 40 percent don't pay any to begin with?
I keep hearing this myth. *All* working Americans pay taxes. While the
lowest quintile is only 4.3%, and the second quintile is only 9.9%, they
still pay taxes.

We need to correct something here - we're talking about income taxes.

Not FICA or any of the other taxes which everybody pays - income
taxes.

Besides - it doesn't matter anyway. The Obamabots (meaning his
surrogates) can't seem to get their messages straight. Obama said
$250,000 then amended to $200,000 which Biden amended to $150,000
which Bill Richardson amended to $120,000 and pretty soon I expect
Barney and Nancy to amend that to $100,000 and Reid to put it at
$80,000.

And let's not forget Barney's "increase by 25%" comment.

Know what - I may join Harry in Costa Rica.

Um...on second thought... :)


It's a small country, but...you can take the east coast...I'll take the
west.

On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:03:38 -0400, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:51:12 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:28:20 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


How do you reduce taxes for 95 percent of the so called "working class"
when 40 percent don't pay any to begin with?
I keep hearing this myth. *All* working Americans pay taxes. While the
lowest quintile is only 4.3%, and the second quintile is only 9.9%, they
still pay taxes.

We need to correct something here - we're talking about income taxes.

Not FICA or any of the other taxes which everybody pays - income
taxes.

Besides - it doesn't matter anyway. The Obamabots (meaning his
surrogates) can't seem to get their messages straight. Obama said
$250,000 then amended to $200,000 which Biden amended to $150,000
which Bill Richardson amended to $120,000 and pretty soon I expect
Barney and Nancy to amend that to $100,000 and Reid to put it at
$80,000.

And let's not forget Barney's "increase by 25%" comment.

Know what - I may join Harry in Costa Rica.

Um...on second thought... :)


It's a small country, but...you can take the east coast...I'll take the
west.

Most Americans would be happy to see the west coast separate from the
US and form their own nation.....no loss for normal red blooded
Americans.

JimH wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:03:38 -0400, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:51:12 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:28:20 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


How do you reduce taxes for 95 percent of the so called "working class"
when 40 percent don't pay any to begin with?
I keep hearing this myth. *All* working Americans pay taxes. While the
lowest quintile is only 4.3%, and the second quintile is only 9.9%, they
still pay taxes.
We need to correct something here - we're talking about income taxes.

Not FICA or any of the other taxes which everybody pays - income
taxes.

Besides - it doesn't matter anyway. The Obamabots (meaning his
surrogates) can't seem to get their messages straight. Obama said
$250,000 then amended to $200,000 which Biden amended to $150,000
which Bill Richardson amended to $120,000 and pretty soon I expect
Barney and Nancy to amend that to $100,000 and Reid to put it at
$80,000.

And let's not forget Barney's "increase by 25%" comment.

Know what - I may join Harry in Costa Rica.

Um...on second thought... :)

It's a small country, but...you can take the east coast...I'll take the
west.

Most Americans would be happy to see the west coast separate from the
US and form their own nation.....no loss for normal red blooded
Americans.

The country discussed was Costa Rica, moron.

On Oct 31, 9:51*pm, DK wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:03:38 -0400, Boater
wrote:

Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:51:12 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:28:20 -0400, Eisboch wrote:

How do you reduce taxes for 95 percent of the so called "working class"
when 40 percent don't pay any to begin with?
I keep hearing this myth. **All* working Americans pay taxes. *While the
lowest quintile is only 4.3%, and the second quintile is only 9.9%, they
still pay taxes.
We need to correct something here - we're talking about income taxes.

Not FICA or any of the other taxes which everybody pays - income
taxes.

Besides - it doesn't matter anyway. *The Obamabots (meaning his
surrogates) can't seem to get their messages straight. *Obama said
$250,000 then amended to $200,000 which Biden amended to $150,000
which Bill Richardson amended to $120,000 and pretty soon I expect
Barney and Nancy to amend that to $100,000 and Reid to put it at
$80,000.

And let's not forget Barney's "increase by 25%" comment.

Know what - I may join Harry in Costa Rica. *

Um...on second thought... * :)

It's a small country, but...you can take the east coast...I'll take the
west.

Most Americans would be happy to see the west coast separate from the
US and form their own nation.....no loss for normal red blooded
Americans.

The country discussed was Costa Rica, moron.

No **** Einstein!

JimH wrote:
On Oct 31, 9:51 pm, DK wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 16:03:38 -0400, Boater
wrote:
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:51:12 -0500, wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:28:20 -0400, Eisboch wrote:
How do you reduce taxes for 95 percent of the so called "working class"
when 40 percent don't pay any to begin with?
I keep hearing this myth. *All* working Americans pay taxes. While the
lowest quintile is only 4.3%, and the second quintile is only 9.9%, they
still pay taxes.
We need to correct something here - we're talking about income taxes.
Not FICA or any of the other taxes which everybody pays - income
taxes.
Besides - it doesn't matter anyway. The Obamabots (meaning his
surrogates) can't seem to get their messages straight. Obama said
$250,000 then amended to $200,000 which Biden amended to $150,000
which Bill Richardson amended to $120,000 and pretty soon I expect
Barney and Nancy to amend that to $100,000 and Reid to put it at
$80,000.
And let's not forget Barney's "increase by 25%" comment.
Know what - I may join Harry in Costa Rica.
Um...on second thought... :)
It's a small country, but...you can take the east coast...I'll take the
west.
Most Americans would be happy to see the west coast separate from the
US and form their own nation.....no loss for normal red blooded
Americans.
The country discussed was Costa Rica, moron.

No **** Einstein!

Really? So why couldn't you follow the thread?