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12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand
held flare gun: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...specialty-ammo This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. Thoughts? |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
wrote in message ... I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...specialty-ammo This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. Thoughts? Don't do it. You might irritate them. This may make them even more angry. If you're going to shoot at pirates please try and kill them. -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
On Oct 28, 2:42 pm, "William Black"
wrote: wrote in message ... I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci... This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. Thoughts? Don't do it. You might irritate them. This may make them even more angry. If you're going to shoot at pirates please try and kill them. -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. OTOH, if I wanted to get rid of Harry Krause, I'd imitate the weather forecast "1-2 foot seas, bay and inland waters a light chop" and he'd disappear. |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
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On Oct 28, 2:42 pm, "William Black" wrote: wrote in message ... I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci... This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. Thoughts? Don't do it. You might irritate them. This may make them even more angry. If you're going to shoot at pirates please try and kill them. -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. OTOH, if I wanted to get rid of Harry Krause, I'd imitate the weather forecast "1-2 foot seas, bay and inland waters a light chop" and he'd disappear. Doubtful. I don't boat on your tranquil Gulf of Mexico. |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
Boater wrote:
wrote: On Oct 28, 2:42 pm, "William Black" wrote: wrote in message ... I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci... This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. Thoughts? Don't do it. You might irritate them. This may make them even more angry. If you're going to shoot at pirates please try and kill them. -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. OTOH, if I wanted to get rid of Harry Krause, I'd imitate the weather forecast "1-2 foot seas, bay and inland waters a light chop" and he'd disappear. Doubtful. I don't boat on your tranquil Gulf of Mexico. Thank the lord, Jesus. |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
"Jim" wrote in message ... Boater wrote: wrote: On Oct 28, 2:42 pm, "William Black" wrote: wrote in message ... I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci... This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. Thoughts? Don't do it. You might irritate them. This may make them even more angry. If you're going to shoot at pirates please try and kill them. -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. OTOH, if I wanted to get rid of Harry Krause, I'd imitate the weather forecast "1-2 foot seas, bay and inland waters a light chop" and he'd disappear. Doubtful. I don't boat on your tranquil Gulf of Mexico. Thank the lord, Jesus. Don't you blaspheme! |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
On Oct 28, 1:46*pm, Boater wrote:
wrote: On Oct 28, 2:42 pm, "William Black" wrote: wrote in message .... I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci... This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. *Thoughts? Don't do it. You might irritate them. This may make them even more angry. If you're going to shoot at pirates please try and kill them. -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, *like icecream on the beach Time for tea. OTOH, if I wanted to get rid of Harry Krause, I'd imitate the weather forecast "1-2 foot seas, bay and inland waters a light chop" and he'd disappear. Doubtful. I don't boat on your tranquil Gulf of Mexico.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Shooting 12 guage shells in a flare gun is not very smart. The flare gun has a tendency to blow apart which would leave you injure and the pirates laughing. Peter |
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On Oct 28, 2:28*pm, wrote:
I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun:http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci... This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. *Thoughts? All I can say is if the gun is plastic (which some, are...) your in for a big surprise... |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
On Oct 28, 6:45 pm, wrote:
On Oct 28, 2:28 pm, wrote: I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun:http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci... This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. Thoughts? All I can say is if the gun is plastic (which some, are...) your in for a big surprise... MY BAD, I forgot about those HUMONGOUS storms on the Chesepeake so I'd say "Seas 2-3 feet, bays and inland waters a moderate chop" Harry would respond, "OMG Hurricane a comin, MAYDAY, MAYDAY" So, we have actual proof that some people dont read. These shells are DESIGNED to be fired from a 12 guage flare gun, you know, the Orion/ Olin type. |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
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On Oct 28, 2:42 pm, "William Black" wrote: wrote in message ... I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci... This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. Thoughts? Don't do it. You might irritate them. This may make them even more angry. If you're going to shoot at pirates please try and kill them. -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. OTOH, if I wanted to get rid of Harry Krause, I'd imitate the weather forecast "1-2 foot seas, bay and inland waters a light chop" and he'd disappear. Now *that's* funny! |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
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@y79g2000hsa.googlegroups.com, says... On Oct 28, 6:45 pm, wrote: On Oct 28, 2:28 pm, wrote: I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun:http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci... This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. Thoughts? All I can say is if the gun is plastic (which some, are...) your in for a big surprise... MY BAD, I forgot about those HUMONGOUS storms on the Chesepeake so I'd say "Seas 2-3 feet, bays and inland waters a moderate chop" Harry would respond, "OMG Hurricane a comin, MAYDAY, MAYDAY" So, we have actual proof that some people dont read. These shells are DESIGNED to be fired from a 12 guage flare gun, you know, the Orion/ Olin type. Why not just shoot the pirates with the flare ??? -- Meddle ye not in the Affairs of Dragons, for Thou art Crunchy and taste Goode with Ketchup. |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
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: :I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand :held flare gun: :http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...specialty-ammo :This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from :pirates. Thoughts? : If you want to **** them off so badly that they rape you to death this is probably a good tactic. -- "The odds get even - You blame the game. The odds get even - The stakes are the same. You bet your life." -- "You Bet Your Life", Rush |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
On Oct 28, 11:13*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote: : :I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand :held flare gun: :http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci.... :This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from :pirates. *Thoughts? : If you want to **** them off so badly that they rape you to death this is probably a good tactic. -- The use of nonlethal weapons against those with lethal weapons is rarely a good idea. |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
Boater wrote:
wrote: I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...specialty-ammo This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. Thoughts? If the pirates are eight-year-old girls or dumb little big-mouth schitts like loogy, herring, or florida jim, maybe. Real pirates? They inhale pepper spray to clear their sinuses. If you are afraid of pirates, get yourself a stainless steel shotgun in 12 gauge and practice with it out on a range. Put a light coat of protective coating on the shotgun, clean it up once a month at least, and stow it on boat in a dry bag. Modern pirates use RPG launchers. You have to match fire power. Sinking their boat will tend to deter future raids. Andrew Swallow |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
" wrote:
:On Oct 28, 11:13*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: : wrote: : : : : :I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand : :held flare gun: : :http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci... : :This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from : :pirates. *Thoughts? : : : : If you want to **** them off so badly that they rape you to death this : is probably a good tactic. : : : : The use of nonlethal weapons against those with lethal weapons is :rarely a good idea. : "When invited to a gun fight, bring a long gun. Bring all your friends with long guns." -- The Rules -- "When you enter a room full of armed men, shoot the first person who makes a move, hostile or otherwise. He has started to think and is therefore dangerous..." -- Colonel Paddy Mayne, co-founder of the SAS |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
wrote:
:I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand :held flare gun: :http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci. .. :This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from :pirates. *Thoughts? If you want to **** them off so badly that they rape you to death this is probably a good tactic. Hm, being gay isn't part of the pirate image. :-) I thought rum, buggery and the lash was the British navy, which some became pirates to escape. However, these are Somali pirates... "For children, a woman; for pleasure, a boy..." The use of nonlethal weapons against those with lethal weapons is rarely a good idea. I recall it recently did work; some ship with a sonic weapon succeeded in driving pirates off with it. Dennis |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
Andrew Swallow wrote:
I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci alty-ammo This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. Thoughts? Modern pirates use RPG launchers. You have to match fire power. So bring an RPG launcer yourself. Better yet, how about a MILAN or Sagger anti-tank missile? You could *out*-gun them that way! Can you adapt a Stinger missile or SAM-7 for surface-to-surface use? You'd have even more range and flexibility that way. Sinking their boat will tend to deter future raids. Hanging them from the yardarm would be even more fun, though. Dennis |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
On Oct 29, 2:12*am, Dennis wrote:
wrote: :I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand :held flare gun: :http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci. .. :This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from :pirates. *Thoughts? If you want to **** them off so badly that they rape you to death this is probably a good tactic. * * * * Hm, being gay isn't part of the pirate image. *:-) * I thought rum, buggery and the lash was the British navy, which some became pirates to escape. *However, these are Somali pirates... *"For children, a woman; for pleasure, a boy..." * * *The use of nonlethal weapons against those with lethal weapons is rarely a good idea. * * * * I recall it recently did work; some ship with a sonic weapon succeeded in driving pirates off with it. * Dennis I think there was a bit more to it than that. It was a big, fast ship which used the weapon, along with its size and speed, to evade the attack....and still got hit with an RPG round. I can't imagine those tactics would be as successful with a smaller, slower craft....at least not as effective as a couple .50 cals or Mk-19s. |
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On Oct 29, 2:17*am, Dennis wrote:
Andrew Swallow wrote: I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci alty-ammo This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. *Thoughts? Modern pirates use RPG launchers. *You have to match fire power. * * * * So bring an RPG launcer yourself. *Better yet, how about a MILAN or Sagger anti-tank missile? *You could *out*-gun them that way! * * * * * Can you adapt a Stinger missile or *SAM-7 for surface-to-surface use? * You'd have even more range and flexibility that way. * Sinking their boat will tend to deter future raids. * * * * Hanging them from the yardarm would be even more fun, though. * Dennis Drop a piano on them. They don't pay the crews of the ships captured to defend the ship. Hanging is a very personal method of killing. There is a reason hangmen do not show their faces. |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
"Dennis" wrote in message .4... Andrew Swallow wrote: I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci alty-ammo This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. Thoughts? Modern pirates use RPG launchers. You have to match fire power. So bring an RPG launcer yourself. Better yet, how about a MILAN or Sagger anti-tank missile? You could *out*-gun them that way! Can you adapt a Stinger missile or SAM-7 for surface-to-surface use? You'd have even more range and flexibility that way. "Hello, my name's 'Hamid the Mad Bomber', here's my skipper's ticket and a letter from my shipping company, it's called 'The Terrorist Shipping Line", saying that I work for them. I'll have 6 RPGs and a SAM-7 to go please..." -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
On Oct 28, 2:36*pm, Boater wrote:
wrote: I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci.... This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. *Thoughts? If the pirates are eight-year-old girls or dumb little big-mouth schitts like loogy, herring, or florida jim, maybe. Hey, Harry, I'm glad I'm not a foul mouthed, fat nail chewing stinky neanderthal like you. Tell us more about hunting for bodies in Vietnam. |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
On Oct 29, 1:12*am, Dennis wrote:
wrote: :I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand :held flare gun: :http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci. .. :This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from :pirates. *Thoughts? If you want to **** them off so badly that they rape you to death this is probably a good tactic. * * * * Hm, being gay isn't part of the pirate image. *:-) * I thought rum, buggery and the lash was the British navy, which some became pirates to escape. *However, these are Somali pirates... *"For children, a woman; for pleasure, a boy..." * * *The use of nonlethal weapons against those with lethal weapons is rarely a good idea. * * * * I recall it recently did work; some ship with a sonic weapon succeeded in driving pirates off with it. * Dennis It's been a few years since I've been in the Gulf of Mexico but to my knowledge we have no Somali pirates. None around Texas at any rate. |
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On Oct 29, 8:27*am, wrote:
On Oct 29, 1:12*am, Dennis wrote: wrote: :I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand :held flare gun: :http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci. .. :This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from :pirates. *Thoughts? If you want to **** them off so badly that they rape you to death this is probably a good tactic. * * * * Hm, being gay isn't part of the pirate image. *:-) * I thought rum, buggery and the lash was the British navy, which some became pirates to escape. *However, these are Somali pirates... *"For children, a woman; for pleasure, a boy..." * * *The use of nonlethal weapons against those with lethal weapons is rarely a good idea. * * * * I recall it recently did work; some ship with a sonic weapon succeeded in driving pirates off with it. * Dennis It's been a few years since I've been in the Gulf of Mexico but to my knowledge we have no Somali pirates. None around Texas at any rate. True. If someone wants your boat there it's probably drug runners.....they'll kill you anyway, so you might as well get in a few shots. |
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On 29 Oct 2008 06:17:56 GMT, Dennis
wrote: Hanging them from the yardarm would be even more fun, though. There is a place right downtown in London called Execution Dock. Legend is that they would peg down pirates on the river bottom at low tide. Drowning occured when the tide came in. For the modern variation, chain them to their boat and shoot a not very big hole in it. Casady |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
On 29 Oct 2008 06:12:13 GMT, Dennis
wrote: The use of nonlethal weapons against those with lethal weapons is rarely a good idea. I recall it recently did work; some ship with a sonic weapon succeeded in driving pirates off with it. More than ship has driven off pirates with high pressure water hoses. Not really non lethal. At least blowing the eyeballs out of their heads would be pretty easy. Casady |
12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
wrote in message ... On Oct 28, 6:45 pm, wrote: On Oct 28, 2:28 pm, wrote: I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun:http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci... This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. Thoughts? All I can say is if the gun is plastic (which some, are...) your in for a big surprise... MY BAD, I forgot about those HUMONGOUS storms on the Chesepeake so I'd say "Seas 2-3 feet, bays and inland waters a moderate chop" Harry would respond, "OMG Hurricane a comin, MAYDAY, MAYDAY" So, we have actual proof that some people dont read. These shells are DESIGNED to be fired from a 12 guage flare gun, you know, the Orion/ Olin type. The fact is that you are dealing with people who just don't care and won't be deterred by anything other than lethal force. What you have to decide is whether you are willing to do the same. If I were wishing to deter them I would get a semi-auto rifle like a 30.06 with a few extra clips and be done with it and hope they don't get me first. Other than that, I would just give in and hope they spare your lives. You could probably pick up 2-3 decent used semi-autos and plenty of ammo for a couple of thousand bucks or less at a gun shop. As a matter of fact, the best thing to do is to go to a gun shop and tell the owner what you need and he will give you some advice on arms and ammo that will do you best. You can't defeat hand grenades with a letter opener........... Ed |
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On Oct 28, 11:19*pm, " wrote:
On Oct 28, 11:13*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: wrote: : :I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand :held flare gun: :http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci... :This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from :pirates. *Thoughts? : If you want to **** them off so badly that they rape you to death this is probably a good tactic. -- * * *The use of nonlethal weapons against those with lethal weapons is rarely a good idea. especially whenyours is a single shot one |
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On Oct 30, 12:34*pm, "Raymond O'Hara"
wrote: On Oct 28, 11:19*pm, " wrote: On Oct 28, 11:13*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: wrote: : :I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand :held flare gun: :http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci... :This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from :pirates. *Thoughts? : If you want to **** them off so badly that they rape you to death this is probably a good tactic. -- * * *The use of nonlethal weapons against those with lethal weapons is rarely a good idea. especially whenyours is a single shot one- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You could get Toms? kid to smuggle over a Lars Rocket....... They work great for punching holes in Pirate boats..aHARRrrrrrrrrrrrrr. |
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On Oct 28, 6:45*pm, wrote:
On Oct 28, 2:28*pm, wrote: I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun:http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci... This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. *Thoughts? All I can say is if the gun is plastic (which some, are...) your in for a big surprise... They'd have to be rated for the plastic gun - which would be a lot less charge than in your standard Remington 870 type hunting shotgun! I'm with William Black on Pirate defense, if you want a weapon please use a really effective one! |
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On Oct 29, 7:25*am, "William Black"
wrote: "Dennis" wrote in message .4... Andrew Swallow wrote: I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci alty-ammo This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. *Thoughts? Modern pirates use RPG launchers. *You have to match fire power. * *So bring an RPG launcer yourself. *Better yet, how about a MILAN or Sagger anti-tank missile? *You could *out*-gun them that way! * *Can you adapt a Stinger missile or *SAM-7 for surface-to-surface use? You'd have even more range and flexibility that way. "Hello, *my name's 'Hamid the Mad Bomber', *here's my skipper's ticket and a letter from my shipping company, *it's called *'The Terrorist Shipping Line", *saying that I work for them. I'll have 6 RPGs and a SAM-7 to go please..." I'm sure the company would have some serious hurdles. As for terrorists they can get some pretty nasty stuff already. |
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"David E. Powell" wrote in message ... On Oct 29, 7:25 am, "William Black" wrote: "Dennis" wrote in message .4... Andrew Swallow wrote: I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci alty-ammo This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. Thoughts? Modern pirates use RPG launchers. You have to match fire power. So bring an RPG launcer yourself. Better yet, how about a MILAN or Sagger anti-tank missile? You could *out*-gun them that way! Can you adapt a Stinger missile or SAM-7 for surface-to-surface use? You'd have even more range and flexibility that way. "Hello, my name's 'Hamid the Mad Bomber', here's my skipper's ticket and a letter from my shipping company, it's called 'The Terrorist Shipping Line", saying that I work for them. I'll have 6 RPGs and a SAM-7 to go please..." I'm sure the company would have some serious hurdles. ------------------ What sort? Small freighters are available for less than 'telephone number' money. I found half a dozen in a web search that took less than ten minutes, all for less than a million dollars US A limited company can be bought in the UK for £100 and its registered address can be a sympathetic lawyer's office. And then you've got an Arab owned British shipping company (ship registered in Liberia of course) that's doing business in the area and has a perfect right to the stuff. Invent a couple of small trading companies and ship cheap rubbish around the Gulf and the Horn for about a year, complete with all the necessary paperwork, and then ring someone up and say something like 'Hey man, like we want our guns man, we're human too you know...' and await delivery and a training package... Now I'm sure if I can work this sort of thing out the highly paid intelligence analysists of the CIA can as well, but it would be horribly difficult to spot the dud company from the real one. Freight shipping in smallish freighters has always been a pretty dirty business. The easy solution is not to allow merchant ships anything more lethal than a rifle... -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
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Juergen Nieveler wrote:
wrote: You could get Toms? kid to smuggle over a Lars Rocket....... They work great for punching holes in Pirate boats..aHARRrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Better use a MARS (aka MLRS) - great for punching holes in lots of pirate boats at once ;-) Juergen Nieveler Let's be real here...all you need is a Barrett 821A or 95. Shoot .50BMG, long, long range. A good mount on your cabin top and most of the bad boys will stay far far away. Well, except maybe for some of the rec.boat idiots like Florida Jim, Loogy, Justwait, et cetera. |
I can't wait for Wednesday...
....so that the only news Sarah Palin will make will be during her resignation as Alaska's governor because of ethical reasons. Gad, this woman is the most uninformed, bigoted, lying bitch on the American political scene *ever*. She makes Fanny Foxe seem a decent woman. Bye, bye Sarah... |
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On Oct 30, 3:43*pm, "William Black"
wrote: "David E. Powell" wrote in ... On Oct 29, 7:25 am, "William Black" wrote: "Dennis" wrote in message . 1.4... Andrew Swallow wrote: I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci alty-ammo This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. Thoughts? Modern pirates use RPG launchers. You have to match fire power. So bring an RPG launcer yourself. Better yet, how about a MILAN or Sagger anti-tank missile? You could *out*-gun them that way! Can you adapt a Stinger missile or SAM-7 for surface-to-surface use? You'd have even more range and flexibility that way. "Hello, my name's 'Hamid the Mad Bomber', here's my skipper's ticket and a letter from my shipping company, it's called 'The Terrorist Shipping Line", saying that I work for them. I'll have 6 RPGs and a SAM-7 to go please..." I'm sure the company would have some serious hurdles. ------------------ What sort? Small freighters are available for less than 'telephone number' money. *I found half a dozen in a web search that took less than ten minutes, *all for less than a million dollars US A limited company can be bought in the UK for £100 and its registered address can be a sympathetic lawyer's office. And then you've got an Arab owned British shipping company (ship registered in Liberia of course) that's doing business in the area and has a perfect right to the stuff. Invent a couple of small trading companies and ship cheap rubbish around the Gulf and the Horn for about a year, *complete with all the necessary paperwork, and then ring someone up and say something like 'Hey man, *like we want our guns man, *we're human too you know...' and await delivery and a training package... Now I'm sure if I can work this sort of thing out the highly paid intelligence analysists of the CIA can as well, *but it would be horribly difficult to spot the dud company from the real one. Freight shipping in smallish freighters has always been a pretty dirty business. The easy solution is not to allow merchant ships anything more lethal than a rifle... -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, *like icecream on the beach Time for tea. Probably spot the dud company the same way Valerie Plame's op was outed, not enough documentation and reaction. Call the telephone number, several times, usually not answered or answered by an answering service. Look for membership in shipping organizations, address in "home" country, hiring patterns for crew, agents. A Russian op would probably look real, a Russian-backed op probably as well. It's called experience in the "legend". |
I can't wait for Wednesday...
On Oct 30, 4:30*pm, Boater wrote:
...so that the only news Sarah Palin will make will be during her resignation as Alaska's governor because of ethical reasons. Gad, this woman is the most uninformed, bigoted, lying bitch on the American political scene *ever*. She makes Fanny Foxe seem a decent woman.. Bye, bye Sarah... The state she governs is filled with her type, male and female. There are probably many Republicans who consider her to be a liberal. Her husband was tied to the Alaska Independence Party and she sent a recorded speech to their convention last year. It's little bits like that that get her elected. |
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"Jack Linthicum" wrote in message ... On Oct 30, 3:43 pm, "William Black" wrote: "David E. Powell" wrote in ... On Oct 29, 7:25 am, "William Black" wrote: "Dennis" wrote in message . 1.4... Andrew Swallow wrote: I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci alty-ammo This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. Thoughts? Modern pirates use RPG launchers. You have to match fire power. So bring an RPG launcer yourself. Better yet, how about a MILAN or Sagger anti-tank missile? You could *out*-gun them that way! Can you adapt a Stinger missile or SAM-7 for surface-to-surface use? You'd have even more range and flexibility that way. "Hello, my name's 'Hamid the Mad Bomber', here's my skipper's ticket and a letter from my shipping company, it's called 'The Terrorist Shipping Line", saying that I work for them. I'll have 6 RPGs and a SAM-7 to go please..." I'm sure the company would have some serious hurdles. ------------------ What sort? Small freighters are available for less than 'telephone number' money. I found half a dozen in a web search that took less than ten minutes, all for less than a million dollars US A limited company can be bought in the UK for £100 and its registered address can be a sympathetic lawyer's office. And then you've got an Arab owned British shipping company (ship registered in Liberia of course) that's doing business in the area and has a perfect right to the stuff. Invent a couple of small trading companies and ship cheap rubbish around the Gulf and the Horn for about a year, complete with all the necessary paperwork, and then ring someone up and say something like 'Hey man, like we want our guns man, we're human too you know...' and await delivery and a training package... Now I'm sure if I can work this sort of thing out the highly paid intelligence analysists of the CIA can as well, but it would be horribly difficult to spot the dud company from the real one. Freight shipping in smallish freighters has always been a pretty dirty business. The easy solution is not to allow merchant ships anything more lethal than a rifle... Probably spot the dud company the same way Valerie Plame's op was outed, not enough documentation and reaction. Call the telephone number, several times, usually not answered or answered by an answering service. Look for membership in shipping organizations, address in "home" country, hiring patterns for crew, agents. A Russian op would probably look real, a Russian-backed op probably as well. It's called experience in the "legend". -------------------------- The easy way to do it would be to set up a real shipping company and ship some stuff, or 'adopt' one owned by a sympathiser. That way you don't show up when people do basic background checks... Terrorists don't operate in a vacuum. I'm astonished that the CIA didn't actually operate a proper company complete with proper offices for 'cover' purposes for its agents, except that, of course, when it gets blown everyone gets blown... -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach Time for tea. |
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I can't wait for Wednesday...
Jack Linthicum wrote:
Bye, bye Sarah... You hope. The state she governs is filled with her type, male and female. There are probably many Republicans who consider her to be a liberal. Her husband was tied to the Alaska Independence Party and she sent a recorded speech to their convention last year. It's little bits like that that get her elected. A woman friend told me there was a saying for women who go to Alaska: "The odds are good, but the goods are odd!" Plenty of men for each woman, but they might be outlaws and other things... Dennis |
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On Oct 30, 5:11*pm, "William Black"
wrote: "Jack Linthicum" wrote in message ... On Oct 30, 3:43 pm, "William Black" wrote: "David E. Powell" wrote in ... On Oct 29, 7:25 am, "William Black" wrote: "Dennis" wrote in message . 1.4... Andrew Swallow wrote: I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand held flare gun: http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci alty-ammo This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from pirates. Thoughts? Modern pirates use RPG launchers. You have to match fire power. So bring an RPG launcer yourself. Better yet, how about a MILAN or Sagger anti-tank missile? You could *out*-gun them that way! Can you adapt a Stinger missile or SAM-7 for surface-to-surface use? You'd have even more range and flexibility that way. "Hello, my name's 'Hamid the Mad Bomber', here's my skipper's ticket and a letter from my shipping company, it's called 'The Terrorist Shipping Line", saying that I work for them. I'll have 6 RPGs and a SAM-7 to go please..." I'm sure the company would have some serious hurdles. ------------------ What sort? Small freighters are available for less than 'telephone number' money. I found half a dozen in a web search that took less than ten minutes, all for less than a million dollars US A limited company can be bought in the UK for £100 and its registered address can be a sympathetic lawyer's office. And then you've got an Arab owned British shipping company (ship registered in Liberia of course) that's doing business in the area and has a perfect right to the stuff. Invent a couple of small trading companies and ship cheap rubbish around the Gulf and the Horn for about a year, complete with all the necessary paperwork, and then ring someone up and say something like 'Hey man, like we want our guns man, we're human too you know...' and await delivery and a training package... Now I'm sure if I can work this sort of thing out the highly paid intelligence analysists of the CIA can as well, but it would be horribly difficult to spot the dud company from the real one. Freight shipping in smallish freighters has always been a pretty dirty business. The easy solution is not to allow merchant ships anything more lethal than a rifle... Probably spot the dud company the same way Valerie Plame's op was outed, not enough documentation and reaction. Call the telephone number, several times, usually not answered or answered by an answering service. Look for membership in shipping organizations, address in "home" country, hiring patterns for crew, agents. A Russian op would probably look real, a Russian-backed op probably as well. It's called experience in the "legend". -------------------------- The easy way to do it would be to set up a real shipping company and ship some stuff, *or 'adopt' one owned by a sympathiser. That way you don't show up when people do basic background checks... Terrorists don't operate in a vacuum. I'm astonished that the CIA didn't actually operate a proper company complete with proper offices for 'cover' purposes for its agents, *except that, *of course, *when it gets blown everyone gets blown... -- William Black I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate All these moments will be lost in time, *like icecream on the beach Time for tea. They had a really good idea, a consultant service for an investment company. Idea would be that they do some private work if you are an okay company but their resources, ie Valerie Plame plus whoever else, are limited and very expensive. My experience with CIA cover was that the people who did it were very unimaginative. The entertainment at graduation from a place with a reputation, included a guy who was sort of a Shelly Berman type. He did a routine on a stool with a telephone that went through all of the possibilities of a trainee being nabbed by the local police for "suspicious activity". |
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