I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
 

"Jack Linthicum" wrote in message
...
On Oct 30, 5:11 pm, "William Black"
wrote:
"Jack Linthicum" wrote in message

...
On Oct 30, 3:43 pm, "William Black"
wrote:



"David E. Powell" wrote in
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On Oct 29, 7:25 am, "William Black"
wrote:

"Dennis" wrote in message

. 1.4...

Andrew Swallow wrote:

I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a
hand
held flare gun:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci
alty-ammo

This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat
from pirates. Thoughts?

Modern pirates use RPG launchers. You have to match fire power.

So bring an RPG launcer yourself. Better yet, how about a MILAN or
Sagger anti-tank missile? You could *out*-gun them that way!

Can you adapt a Stinger missile or SAM-7 for surface-to-surface use?
You'd have even more range and flexibility that way.

"Hello, my name's 'Hamid the Mad Bomber', here's my skipper's ticket
and
a
letter from my shipping company, it's called 'The Terrorist Shipping
Line", saying that I work for them. I'll have 6 RPGs and a SAM-7 to go
please..."

I'm sure the company would have some serious hurdles.

------------------

What sort?

Small freighters are available for less than 'telephone number' money. I
found half a dozen in a web search that took less than ten minutes, all
for
less than a million dollars US

A limited company can be bought in the UK for £100 and its registered
address can be a sympathetic lawyer's office.

And then you've got an Arab owned British shipping company (ship
registered
in Liberia of course) that's doing business in the area and has a
perfect
right to the stuff.

Invent a couple of small trading companies and ship cheap rubbish around
the
Gulf and the Horn for about a year, complete with all the necessary
paperwork, and then ring someone up and say something like 'Hey man,
like
we want our guns man, we're human too you know...' and await delivery
and
a
training package...

Now I'm sure if I can work this sort of thing out the highly paid
intelligence analysists of the CIA can as well, but it would be horribly
difficult to spot the dud company from the real one.

Freight shipping in smallish freighters has always been a pretty dirty
business.

The easy solution is not to allow merchant ships anything more lethal
than
a
rifle...

Probably spot the dud company the same way Valerie Plame's op was
outed, not enough documentation and reaction. Call the telephone
number, several times, usually not answered or answered by an
answering service. Look for membership in shipping organizations,
address in "home" country, hiring patterns for crew, agents.

A Russian op would probably look real, a Russian-backed op probably as
well. It's called experience in the "legend".

--------------------------

The easy way to do it would be to set up a real shipping company and ship
some stuff, or 'adopt' one owned by a sympathiser.

That way you don't show up when people do basic background checks...

Terrorists don't operate in a vacuum.

I'm astonished that the CIA didn't actually operate a proper company
complete with proper offices for 'cover' purposes for its agents, except
that, of course, when it gets blown everyone gets blown...

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

They had a really good idea, a consultant service for an investment
company. Idea would be that they do some private work if you are an
okay company but their resources, ie Valerie Plame plus whoever else,
are limited and very expensive. My experience with CIA cover was that
the people who did it were very unimaginative.

The entertainment at graduation from a place with a reputation,
included a guy who was sort of a Shelly Berman type. He did a routine
on a stool with a telephone that went through all of the possibilities
of a trainee being nabbed by the local police for "suspicious
activity".

Stool + telephone was Bob Newhart, not Shelly Berman, I think.

Bob McKellar

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

Boater wrote:

If Stevens doesn't quit before the upcoming election, it looks as if he
will lose. If somehow Palin appointed herself to that seat, she'd be a
really interesting and colorful senator, and would be about as effective
as Elizabeth Dole.

Better than as Veep?

Dennis

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:30:06 -0400, Boater
wrote:

...so that the only news Sarah Palin will make will be during her
resignation as Alaska's governor because of ethical reasons.


If she resigned as governor it would be to take Steven's seat if he
got reelected ... and the Marion Barry effect might let that happen


If Stevens doesn't quit before the upcoming election, it looks as if he
will lose. If somehow Palin appointed herself to that seat, she'd be a
really interesting and colorful senator, and would be about as effective
as Elizabeth Dole.

Actually he is still very popular and more then likely will be
reelected. His lifelong accomplishments have enriched Alaska. His
perfidy while corrupt and unacceptable has harmed no one. Alaska still
wants his seniority and political power.

12 Gge pepper shells for boat protection
 

On Oct 30, 9:33*pm, "Bob McKellar" wrote:
"Jack Linthicum" wrote in message

...
On Oct 30, 5:11 pm, "William Black"
wrote:



"Jack Linthicum" wrote in message

...
On Oct 30, 3:43 pm, "William Black"
wrote:

"David E. Powell" wrote in
...
On Oct 29, 7:25 am, "William Black"
wrote:

"Dennis" wrote in message

. 1.4...

Andrew Swallow wrote:

I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a
hand
held flare gun:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci
alty-ammo

This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat
from pirates. Thoughts?

Modern pirates use RPG launchers. You have to match fire power.

So bring an RPG launcer yourself. Better yet, how about a MILAN or
Sagger anti-tank missile? You could *out*-gun them that way!

Can you adapt a Stinger missile or SAM-7 for surface-to-surface use?
You'd have even more range and flexibility that way.

"Hello, my name's 'Hamid the Mad Bomber', here's my skipper's ticket
and
a
letter from my shipping company, it's called 'The Terrorist Shipping
Line", saying that I work for them. I'll have 6 RPGs and a SAM-7 to go
please..."

I'm sure the company would have some serious hurdles.

------------------

What sort?

Small freighters are available for less than 'telephone number' money.. I
found half a dozen in a web search that took less than ten minutes, all
for
less than a million dollars US

A limited company can be bought in the UK for £100 and its registered
address can be a sympathetic lawyer's office.

And then you've got an Arab owned British shipping company (ship
registered
in Liberia of course) that's doing business in the area and has a
perfect
right to the stuff.

Invent a couple of small trading companies and ship cheap rubbish around
the
Gulf and the Horn for about a year, complete with all the necessary
paperwork, and then ring someone up and say something like 'Hey man,
like
we want our guns man, we're human too you know...' and await delivery
and
a
training package...

Now I'm sure if I can work this sort of thing out the highly paid
intelligence analysists of the CIA can as well, but it would be horribly
difficult to spot the dud company from the real one.

Freight shipping in smallish freighters has always been a pretty dirty
business.

The easy solution is not to allow merchant ships anything more lethal
than
a
rifle...

Probably spot the dud company the same way Valerie Plame's op was
outed, not enough documentation and reaction. Call the telephone
number, several times, usually not answered or answered by an
answering service. Look for membership in shipping organizations,
address in "home" country, hiring patterns for crew, agents.

A Russian op would probably look real, a Russian-backed op probably as
well. It's called experience in the "legend".

--------------------------

The easy way to do it would be to set up a real shipping company and ship
some stuff, or 'adopt' one owned by a sympathiser.

That way you don't show up when people do basic background checks...

Terrorists don't operate in a vacuum.

I'm astonished that the CIA didn't actually operate a proper company
complete with proper offices for 'cover' purposes for its agents, except
that, of course, when it gets blown everyone gets blown...

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

They had a really good idea, a consultant service for an investment
company. Idea would be that they do some private work if you are an
okay company but their resources, ie Valerie Plame plus whoever else,
are limited and very expensive. My experience with CIA cover was that
the people who did it were very unimaginative.

The entertainment at graduation from a place with a reputation,
included a guy who was sort of a Shelly Berman type. He did a routine
on a stool with a telephone that went through all of the possibilities
of a trainee being nabbed by the local police for "suspicious
activity".

Stool + telephone was Bob Newhart, not Shelly Berman, I think.

Bob McKellar

You may be right, long time ago.

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

On Oct 31, 2:49*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:33:35 -0400, Boater
wrote:

Alaskans are used to getting a check for several thousand bucks every
year from oil companies. They are not shocked that Stevens got a
little mungo from a huge oil company project..

The issue wasn't the bribes, but that he didn't properly report them on
his federal forms. If there is any justice in Alaska, Ms. Palin is going
to find herself in similar hot water over the construction of her house,
though the charges against her will be state, not federal.

If every politician who got a favor from someone was removed they
would not be able to raise a quorum in any legislative body in the
country.

The advantage for Palin here is that in 4 years this will all be old
news. I still say this was just a way to clean out her closet with
very little to lose. The odds of a republican winning the white house
were slim this time, no matter who they ran. She may be the most
vetted politician in the country right now and in the grand scheme of
things, they didn't find much. The real question will be in how she
acts from now on.
If I was her I would get a better grasp on how the federal government
works. Some of her "the VP runs the Senate" lines were just dumb.
Nothing would do that better than a job at the capitol.

There's a Senator up for election in 2010

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Oct 31, 2:49 pm, wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:33:35 -0400, Boater
wrote:

Alaskans are used to getting a check for several thousand bucks every
year from oil companies. They are not shocked that Stevens got a
little mungo from a huge oil company project..
The issue wasn't the bribes, but that he didn't properly report them on
his federal forms. If there is any justice in Alaska, Ms. Palin is going
to find herself in similar hot water over the construction of her house,
though the charges against her will be state, not federal.
If every politician who got a favor from someone was removed they
would not be able to raise a quorum in any legislative body in the
country.

The advantage for Palin here is that in 4 years this will all be old
news. I still say this was just a way to clean out her closet with
very little to lose. The odds of a republican winning the white house
were slim this time, no matter who they ran. She may be the most
vetted politician in the country right now and in the grand scheme of
things, they didn't find much. The real question will be in how she
acts from now on.
If I was her I would get a better grasp on how the federal government
works. Some of her "the VP runs the Senate" lines were just dumb.
Nothing would do that better than a job at the capitol.

There's a Senator up for election in 2010


You think Ms. Murkowski is going to stand aside for Sarah Palin? Why?
I doubt Palin would force a primary.

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

On Oct 30, 6:31*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:39:49 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum

wrote:
The advantage for Palin here is that in 4 years this will all be old
news. I still say this was just a way to clean out her closet with
very little to lose. The odds of a republican winning the white house
were slim this time, no matter who they ran. She may be the most
vetted politician in the country right now and in the grand scheme of
things, they didn't find much. The real question will be in how she
acts from now on.
If I was her I would get a better grasp on how the federal government
works. Some of her "the VP runs the Senate" lines were just dumb.
Nothing would do that better than a job at the capitol.

There's a Senator up for election in 2010

I think there will be a vacancy as soon as Stevens' appeals are
exhausted

Begich has that one tied up, she could only serve until the 111th
Congress comes into session to organize. She would lose the leverage
of being Governor while all the investigations are going on over the
trooper-thing.

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

On Nov 1, 11:03*am, wrote:
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 03:08:13 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum

wrote:
Begich has that one tied up, she could only serve until the 111th
Congress comes into session to organize. She would lose the leverage
of being Governor while all the investigations are going on over the
trooper-thing.

The trooper investigation is over and will be forgotten next
Wednesday. They decided the governor can fire any cabinet level
officer she want to and she did nothing illegal. The trooper still has
his job
The people in Alaska don't seem that interested in this stuff and when
Palin is just a footnote in history, the rest of the country won't
care.

Ethics violations still count

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Nov 1, 11:03 am, wrote:
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 03:08:13 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum

wrote:
Begich has that one tied up, she could only serve until the 111th
Congress comes into session to organize. She would lose the leverage
of being Governor while all the investigations are going on over the
trooper-thing.
The trooper investigation is over and will be forgotten next
Wednesday. They decided the governor can fire any cabinet level
officer she want to and she did nothing illegal. The trooper still has
his job
The people in Alaska don't seem that interested in this stuff and when
Palin is just a footnote in history, the rest of the country won't
care.

Ethics violations still count


There are more investigations of Palin taking place in Alaska, ones that
have nothing to do with her unethical behavior in troopergate.

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

On Nov 1, 11:23*am, Boater wrote:
Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Nov 1, 11:03 am, wrote:
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 03:08:13 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum

wrote:
Begich has that one tied up, she could only serve until the 111th
Congress comes into session to organize. She would lose the leverage
of being Governor while all the investigations are going on over the
trooper-thing.
The trooper investigation is over and will be forgotten next
Wednesday. They decided the governor can fire any cabinet level
officer she want to and she did nothing illegal. The trooper still has
his job
The people in Alaska don't seem that interested in this stuff and when
Palin is just a footnote in history, the rest of the country won't
care.

Ethics violations still count

There are more investigations of Palin taking place in Alaska, ones that
have nothing to do with her unethical behavior in troopergate.

I was thinking of the transportation of her family.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4554071.shtml

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:05:55 -0700, Jack Linthicum wrote:


There are more investigations of Palin taking place in Alaska, ones
that have nothing to do with her unethical behavior in troopergate.

I was thinking of the transportation of her family.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/..._investigates/
main4554071.shtml

There is a laundry list of *potential* problems she faces, and
"troopergate" is not over. There are parallel investigations.

obstruction
improperly accessing personnel files
securing a state job for one of her fundraisers
witness-tampering

Remember, I said potential problems.

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/hom.../31/02782.html

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 09:05:55 -0700, Jack Linthicum wrote:


There are more investigations of Palin taking place in Alaska, ones
that have nothing to do with her unethical behavior in troopergate.
I was thinking of the transportation of her family.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/..._investigates/
main4554071.shtml

There is a laundry list of *potential* problems she faces, and
"troopergate" is not over. There are parallel investigations.

obstruction
improperly accessing personnel files
securing a state job for one of her fundraisers
witness-tampering

Remember, I said potential problems.

http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/hom.../31/02782.html


There also have been questions about who actually paid for the materials
and labor to build her house.

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:30:19 -0400, Boater wrote:


There also have been questions about who actually paid for the materials
and labor to build her house.

Yup, questions, but I haven't heard of any investigations. If I were a
Wasilla resident, I'd be more than curious.

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

On Nov 1, 1:15*pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 11:35:52 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:30:19 -0400, Boater wrote:

There also have been questions about who actually paid for the materials
and labor to build her house.
Yup, questions, but I haven't heard of any investigations. *If I were a
Wasilla resident, I'd be more than curious.

I doubt anyone will care after Wednesday when the network slime
machine loses interest.
It is like Bill Clinton. Now that he is out of the (s)lime light,
nobody cares who he pulls his dick out in front of.
If Hillary had the nomination we would be hearing about everything
from the last girl he flashed to his whether Hillary and Chelsea
traveled on his Arkansas governor expense account. *Nobody cares about
the loser.

The media is interested in Palin because she came out of nowhere and was
put on the McCain ticket without being vetted. It turns out that almost
none of the great claims made about Palin were true, and that she has a
number of, uh, ethical lapses. Those, and her utter lack of knowledge in
areas where she should have some has built interest in her
unpreparedness and incompetency in the area of civics.

This is all McCain's fault and is illustrative of his bad judgment. He
rolled the dice with Palin and came up craps. He is not to be trusted at
the wheel of the ship of state.

I would suggest that some part of the RNC management put Palin in play
and that McCain is, at most, subject to bad advice. "Okay, give me a
name of someone the evangelicals will vote for"

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Nov 1, 1:15 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 11:35:52 -0500, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:30:19 -0400, Boater wrote:
There also have been questions about who actually paid for the materials
and labor to build her house.
Yup, questions, but I haven't heard of any investigations. If I were a
Wasilla resident, I'd be more than curious.
I doubt anyone will care after Wednesday when the network slime
machine loses interest.
It is like Bill Clinton. Now that he is out of the (s)lime light,
nobody cares who he pulls his dick out in front of.
If Hillary had the nomination we would be hearing about everything
from the last girl he flashed to his whether Hillary and Chelsea
traveled on his Arkansas governor expense account. Nobody cares about
the loser.
The media is interested in Palin because she came out of nowhere and was
put on the McCain ticket without being vetted. It turns out that almost
none of the great claims made about Palin were true, and that she has a
number of, uh, ethical lapses. Those, and her utter lack of knowledge in
areas where she should have some has built interest in her
unpreparedness and incompetency in the area of civics.

This is all McCain's fault and is illustrative of his bad judgment. He
rolled the dice with Palin and came up craps. He is not to be trusted at
the wheel of the ship of state.

I would suggest that some part of the RNC management put Palin in play
and that McCain is, at most, subject to bad advice. "Okay, give me a
name of someone the evangelicals will vote for"


It was McCain's call. Therefore it is McCain's fault. In the GOP, for
the moment, he calls the shots. Period.

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:02:29 -0500, gfretwell wrote:

I doubt anyone will care after Wednesday when the network slime machine
loses interest.
It is like Bill Clinton. Now that he is out of the (s)lime light, nobody
cares who he pulls his dick out in front of. If Hillary had the
nomination we would be hearing about everything from the last girl he
flashed to his whether Hillary and Chelsea traveled on his Arkansas
governor expense account. Nobody cares about the loser.

Kind of depends on what Palin does. If she's thinking 2012, she remains
in the limelight. If she just heads back to Alaska ... Who knows?

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

On Nov 1, 1:41*pm, Boater wrote:
Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Nov 1, 1:15 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 11:35:52 -0500, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:30:19 -0400, Boater wrote:
There also have been questions about who actually paid for the materials
and labor to build her house.
Yup, questions, but I haven't heard of any investigations. *If I were a
Wasilla resident, I'd be more than curious.
I doubt anyone will care after Wednesday when the network slime
machine loses interest.
It is like Bill Clinton. Now that he is out of the (s)lime light,
nobody cares who he pulls his dick out in front of.
If Hillary had the nomination we would be hearing about everything
from the last girl he flashed to his whether Hillary and Chelsea
traveled on his Arkansas governor expense account. *Nobody cares about
the loser.
The media is interested in Palin because she came out of nowhere and was
put on the McCain ticket without being vetted. It turns out that almost
none of the great claims made about Palin were true, and that she has a
number of, uh, ethical lapses. Those, and her utter lack of knowledge in
areas where she should have some has built interest in her
unpreparedness and incompetency in the area of civics.

This is all McCain's fault and is illustrative of his bad judgment. He
rolled the dice with Palin and came up craps. He is not to be trusted at
the wheel of the ship of state.

I would suggest that some part of the RNC management put Palin in play
and that McCain is, at most, subject to bad advice. "Okay, give me a
name of someone the evangelicals will vote for"

It was McCain's call. Therefore it is McCain's fault. In the GOP, for
the moment, he calls the shots. Period.

Why did one of his handlers say from the first "McCain doesn't speak
for the campaign"?

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Nov 1, 1:41 pm, Boater wrote:
Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Nov 1, 1:15 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 11:35:52 -0500, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 12:30:19 -0400, Boater wrote:
There also have been questions about who actually paid for the materials
and labor to build her house.
Yup, questions, but I haven't heard of any investigations. If I were a
Wasilla resident, I'd be more than curious.
I doubt anyone will care after Wednesday when the network slime
machine loses interest.
It is like Bill Clinton. Now that he is out of the (s)lime light,
nobody cares who he pulls his dick out in front of.
If Hillary had the nomination we would be hearing about everything
from the last girl he flashed to his whether Hillary and Chelsea
traveled on his Arkansas governor expense account. Nobody cares about
the loser.
The media is interested in Palin because she came out of nowhere and was
put on the McCain ticket without being vetted. It turns out that almost
none of the great claims made about Palin were true, and that she has a
number of, uh, ethical lapses. Those, and her utter lack of knowledge in
areas where she should have some has built interest in her
unpreparedness and incompetency in the area of civics.
This is all McCain's fault and is illustrative of his bad judgment. He
rolled the dice with Palin and came up craps. He is not to be trusted at
the wheel of the ship of state.
I would suggest that some part of the RNC management put Palin in play
and that McCain is, at most, subject to bad advice. "Okay, give me a
name of someone the evangelicals will vote for"
It was McCain's call. Therefore it is McCain's fault. In the GOP, for
the moment, he calls the shots. Period.

Why did one of his handlers say from the first "McCain doesn't speak
for the campaign"?


I have no idea.

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:10:59 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:15:55 -0400, Boater
wrote:


The media is interested in Palin because she came out of nowhere and was
put on the McCain ticket without being vetted. It turns out that almost
none of the great claims made about Palin were true, and that she has a
number of, uh, ethical lapses. Those, and her utter lack of knowledge in
areas where she should have some has built interest in her
unpreparedness and incompetency in the area of civics.

I agree Palin was not ready for national politics but I don't think
there is much real meat in the things they have tried to pin on her.
I imagine a lot of governors have a tingle in their backside when they
see the level of scrutiny she has been exposed to tho.
I am a little jaded. I originally came from Maryland where Spiro Agnew
was the "reform" candidate. In the grand scheme of things the graft he
was convicted of was minor compared to his Baltimore peers. Md
politics may have been the most crooked in the country, perhaps even
eclipsing Chicago. Even after Agnew, my state senator (Mike Miller)
pretty much had a price list for what it cost to get minor felonies
dismissed. Everyone I knew had his number memorized (301 868 8888 as I
recall). He specialized in DUI, guns, dope and serious traffic like
"evading and eluding".

Just wait until they find out that Obama never attended Columbia.

Mounting evidence that he never went there. Nobody knows him,
remembers him from his law school or, and this is the best part, he
won't release his Columbia records. Probably because there ain't any.

Heh, heh, heh...

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

Atomic Abusement Park Clown wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:10:59 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 13:15:55 -0400, Boater
wrote:

The media is interested in Palin because she came out of nowhere and was
put on the McCain ticket without being vetted. It turns out that almost
none of the great claims made about Palin were true, and that she has a
number of, uh, ethical lapses. Those, and her utter lack of knowledge in
areas where she should have some has built interest in her
unpreparedness and incompetency in the area of civics.
I agree Palin was not ready for national politics but I don't think
there is much real meat in the things they have tried to pin on her.
I imagine a lot of governors have a tingle in their backside when they
see the level of scrutiny she has been exposed to tho.
I am a little jaded. I originally came from Maryland where Spiro Agnew
was the "reform" candidate. In the grand scheme of things the graft he
was convicted of was minor compared to his Baltimore peers. Md
politics may have been the most crooked in the country, perhaps even
eclipsing Chicago. Even after Agnew, my state senator (Mike Miller)
pretty much had a price list for what it cost to get minor felonies
dismissed. Everyone I knew had his number memorized (301 868 8888 as I
recall). He specialized in DUI, guns, dope and serious traffic like
"evading and eluding".

Just wait until they find out that Obama never attended Columbia.

Mounting evidence that he never went there. Nobody knows him,
remembers him from his law school or, and this is the best part, he
won't release his Columbia records. Probably because there ain't any.

Heh, heh, heh...


Cut back on the painkillers...

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:54:55 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:



VP from Maryland...

Delaware

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

:On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:54:55 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: VP from Maryland...
:
:
:Delaware
:

Delaware gets their own Senators? Who knew?

[Yeah, ok. I blew it there. Not sure why I keep thinking he's from
Maryland...]



He rides the train home through Maryland.

You might be thinking of one of the other really challenged Veeps from
Maryland, Spiro T. Agnew.

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

Jack Linthicum wrote:
[snip]


I would suggest that some part of the RNC management put Palin in play
and that McCain is, at most, subject to bad advice. "Okay, give me a
name of someone the evangelicals will vote for"

Man management is a major part of any command officer's job. Picking
the right advisers is very important.

Andrew Swallow

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

On Oct 31, 7:10*pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:39:49 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum
wrote:

The advantage for Palin here is that in 4 years this will all be old
news. I still say this was just a way to clean out her closet with
very little to lose. The odds of a republican winning the white house
were slim this time, no matter who they ran. She may be the most
vetted politician in the country right now and in the grand scheme of
things, they didn't find much. The real question will be in how she
acts from now on.
If I was her I would get a better grasp on how the federal government
works. Some of her "the VP runs the Senate" lines were just dumb.
Nothing would do that better than a job at the capitol.
There's a Senator up for election in 2010

I think there will be a vacancy as soon asStevens' appeals are
exhausted

You're assumingStevenswill win re-election.

I hope everyone is aware that the juror who was dismissed from Stevens
jury because of a dead father experienced a miracle and the father
didn't die. Instead the juror went to a horse race. American justice.

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Oct 31, 7:10 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:39:49 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum
wrote:
The advantage for Palin here is that in 4 years this will all be old
news. I still say this was just a way to clean out her closet with
very little to lose. The odds of a republican winning the white house
were slim this time, no matter who they ran. She may be the most
vetted politician in the country right now and in the grand scheme of
things, they didn't find much. The real question will be in how she
acts from now on.
If I was her I would get a better grasp on how the federal government
works. Some of her "the VP runs the Senate" lines were just dumb.
Nothing would do that better than a job at the capitol.
There's a Senator up for election in 2010
I think there will be a vacancy as soon asStevens' appeals are
exhausted
You're assumingStevenswill win re-election.

I hope everyone is aware that the juror who was dismissed from Stevens
jury because of a dead father experienced a miracle and the father
didn't die. Instead the juror went to a horse race. American justice.


Was the horse wearing lipstick?

Gosh, gosh, gosh...I hope the Republicans are dumb enough to run Palin
at the top of their ticket in 2012. She will be an unmitigated disaster.

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

On Nov 3, 12:19*pm, Boater wrote:
Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Oct 31, 7:10 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:39:49 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum
wrote:
The advantage for Palin here is that in 4 years this will all be old
news. I still say this was just a way to clean out her closet with
very little to lose. The odds of a republican winning the white house
were slim this time, no matter who they ran. She may be the most
vetted politician in the country right now and in the grand scheme of
things, they didn't find much. The real question will be in how she
acts from now on.
If I was her I would get a better grasp on how the federal government
works. Some of her "the VP runs the Senate" lines were just dumb.
Nothing would do that better than a job at the capitol.
There's a Senator up for election in 2010
I think there will be a vacancy as soon asStevens' appeals are
exhausted
You're assumingStevenswill win re-election.

I hope everyone is aware that the juror who was dismissed from Stevens
jury because of a dead father experienced a miracle and the father
didn't die. Instead the juror went to a horse race. American justice.

Was the horse wearing lipstick?

Gosh, gosh, gosh...I hope the Republicans are dumb enough to run Palin
at the top of their ticket in 2012. She will be an unmitigated disaster.

She has four years to become the darling of the remains of the
Republican Party. The people whom Bush skivvied wanted to go back to
zero and rebuild over the next four or eight years. If Palin stays,
seeking the nomination, they have their Dole/McCain for 2012, a
plausible figure doomed to defeat but with ego enough to try for the
prize.

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...

Gosh, gosh, gosh...I hope the Republicans are dumb enough to run Palin at
the top of their ticket in 2012. She will be an unmitigated disaster.


One is forced to assume that if she loses this time around they'll have her
delivered to an industrial strength polisher for six months. Followed by a
year or two touring the globe meeting the great and the good, will help a
couple of allied parties in major elections abroad and read a couple of
decent sets of political memoirs.

After all that she'll buy her clothes in Paris (she'll pretend they came
from Wallmart), be on familiar terms with half the (friendly) leaders of
the world and actually be fit for purpose.

She'll also learn to pretend that she's left her dafter ideas behind her,
at least until she gets elected...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...


Gosh, gosh, gosh...I hope the Republicans are dumb enough to run Palin at
the top of their ticket in 2012. She will be an unmitigated disaster.


I, for one, am looking forward to it.

Just think. She'll still be a young 48 year old.
You, assuming you're still kicking, will be gumming your oatmeal at what ...
about 70?

I'll still be young enough to appreciate the whole thing.

Eisboch

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

On Nov 3, 8:54*pm, Tim wrote:
On Nov 3, 11:19*am, Boater wrote:



Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Oct 31, 7:10 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:39:49 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum
wrote:
The advantage for Palin here is that in 4 years this will all be old
news. I still say this was just a way to clean out her closet with
very little to lose. The odds of a republican winning the white house
were slim this time, no matter who they ran. She may be the most
vetted politician in the country right now and in the grand scheme of
things, they didn't find much. The real question will be in how she
acts from now on.
If I was her I would get a better grasp on how the federal government
works. Some of her "the VP runs the Senate" lines were just dumb.
Nothing would do that better than a job at the capitol.
There's a Senator up for election in 2010
I think there will be a vacancy as soon asStevens' appeals are
exhausted
You're assumingStevenswill win re-election.

I hope everyone is aware that the juror who was dismissed from Stevens
jury because of a dead father experienced a miracle and the father
didn't die. Instead the juror went to a horse race. American justice.

Was the horse wearing lipstick?

Gosh, gosh, gosh...I hope the Republicans are dumb enough to run Palin
at the top of their ticket in 2012. She will be an unmitigated disaster..

I'd almost pay to see her in a debate with Hillary then watch it turn
into a catfight!

First question: "what do you read?"

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Nov 3, 8:54 pm, Tim wrote:
On Nov 3, 11:19 am, Boater wrote:



Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Oct 31, 7:10 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:39:49 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum
wrote:
The advantage for Palin here is that in 4 years this will all be old
news. I still say this was just a way to clean out her closet with
very little to lose. The odds of a republican winning the white house
were slim this time, no matter who they ran. She may be the most
vetted politician in the country right now and in the grand scheme of
things, they didn't find much. The real question will be in how she
acts from now on.
If I was her I would get a better grasp on how the federal government
works. Some of her "the VP runs the Senate" lines were just dumb.
Nothing would do that better than a job at the capitol.
There's a Senator up for election in 2010
I think there will be a vacancy as soon asStevens' appeals are
exhausted
You're assumingStevenswill win re-election.
I hope everyone is aware that the juror who was dismissed from Stevens
jury because of a dead father experienced a miracle and the father
didn't die. Instead the juror went to a horse race. American justice.
Was the horse wearing lipstick?
Gosh, gosh, gosh...I hope the Republicans are dumb enough to run Palin
at the top of their ticket in 2012. She will be an unmitigated disaster.
I'd almost pay to see her in a debate with Hillary then watch it turn
into a catfight!

First question: "what do you read?"


Palin: Nothing.
Hillary: Everything.

Attributes shared by their respective supporters, too.

Stupid is as stupid does:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV_IphAIGPg

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

On Nov 4, 4:59*am, Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Nov 3, 8:54*pm, Tim wrote:



On Nov 3, 11:19*am, Boater wrote:

Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Oct 31, 7:10 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:39:49 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum
wrote:
The advantage for Palin here is that in 4 years this will all be old
news. I still say this was just a way to clean out her closet with
very little to lose. The odds of a republican winning the white house
were slim this time, no matter who they ran. She may be the most
vetted politician in the country right now and in the grand scheme of
things, they didn't find much. The real question will be in how she
acts from now on.
If I was her I would get a better grasp on how the federal government
works. Some of her "the VP runs the Senate" lines were just dumb.
Nothing would do that better than a job at the capitol.
There's a Senator up for election in 2010
I think there will be a vacancy as soon asStevens' appeals are
exhausted
You're assumingStevenswill win re-election.

I hope everyone is aware that the juror who was dismissed from Stevens
jury because of a dead father experienced a miracle and the father
didn't die. Instead the juror went to a horse race. American justice.

Was the horse wearing lipstick?

Gosh, gosh, gosh...I hope the Republicans are dumb enough to run Palin
at the top of their ticket in 2012. She will be an unmitigated disaster.

I'd almost pay to see her in a debate with Hillary then watch it turn
into a catfight!

First question: "what do you read?"

What do I read? Many books and articles thank you.

I even read your question to me.

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

On Nov 4, 5:20*am, Boater wrote:
Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Nov 3, 8:54 pm, Tim wrote:
On Nov 3, 11:19 am, Boater wrote:

Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Oct 31, 7:10 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:39:49 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum
wrote:
The advantage for Palin here is that in 4 years this will all be old
news. I still say this was just a way to clean out her closet with
very little to lose. The odds of a republican winning the white house
were slim this time, no matter who they ran. She may be the most
vetted politician in the country right now and in the grand scheme of
things, they didn't find much. The real question will be in how she
acts from now on.
If I was her I would get a better grasp on how the federal government
works. Some of her "the VP runs the Senate" lines were just dumb..
Nothing would do that better than a job at the capitol.
There's a Senator up for election in 2010
I think there will be a vacancy as soon asStevens' appeals are
exhausted
You're assumingStevenswill win re-election.
I hope everyone is aware that the juror who was dismissed from Stevens
jury because of a dead father experienced a miracle and the father
didn't die. Instead the juror went to a horse race. American justice..
Was the horse wearing lipstick?
Gosh, gosh, gosh...I hope the Republicans are dumb enough to run Palin
at the top of their ticket in 2012. She will be an unmitigated disaster.
I'd almost pay to see her in a debate with Hillary then watch it turn
into a catfight!

First question: "what do you read?"

Palin: * * * Nothing.
Hillary: * * Everything.

Attributes shared by their respective supporters, too.

Stupid is as stupid does:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV_IphAIGPg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyvqh...eature=related

I can't wait for Wednesday...
 

On Nov 4, 7:26*am, Tim wrote:
On Nov 4, 4:59*am, Jack Linthicum wrote:



On Nov 3, 8:54*pm, Tim wrote:

On Nov 3, 11:19*am, Boater wrote:

Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Oct 31, 7:10 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:39:49 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum
wrote:
The advantage for Palin here is that in 4 years this will all be old
news. I still say this was just a way to clean out her closet with
very little to lose. The odds of a republican winning the white house
were slim this time, no matter who they ran. She may be the most
vetted politician in the country right now and in the grand scheme of
things, they didn't find much. The real question will be in how she
acts from now on.
If I was her I would get a better grasp on how the federal government
works. Some of her "the VP runs the Senate" lines were just dumb.
Nothing would do that better than a job at the capitol.
There's a Senator up for election in 2010
I think there will be a vacancy as soon asStevens' appeals are
exhausted
You're assumingStevenswill win re-election.

I hope everyone is aware that the juror who was dismissed from Stevens
jury because of a dead father experienced a miracle and the father
didn't die. Instead the juror went to a horse race. American justice.

Was the horse wearing lipstick?

Gosh, gosh, gosh...I hope the Republicans are dumb enough to run Palin
at the top of their ticket in 2012. She will be an unmitigated disaster.

I'd almost pay to see her in a debate with Hillary then watch it turn
into a catfight!

First question: "what do you read?"

What do I read? *Many books and articles thank you.

I even read your question to me.

Missed the point didn't you?