I have two guys who work in the machine shop here, an older black guy
who knows everything possible about machining and a younger guy who
sorta gets by. They work well together and are friends. We were
talking about where to go for lunch and the young guy asked 'Wanna go
get Chinese food", "No, we did that last week". Then he asks, "How
about some N*gg*r food". Total silence as the rest of us were
shocked. Then he says "Oh, never mind".
What should I do?

On Oct 1, 12:34*pm, wrote:
I have two guys who work in the machine shop here, an older black guy
who knows everything possible about machining and a younger guy who
sorta gets by. *They work well together and are friends. *We were
talking about where to go for lunch and the young guy asked 'Wanna go
get Chinese food", "No, we did that last week". *Then he asks, "How
about some N*gg*r food". *Total silence as the rest of us were
shocked. *Then he says "Oh, never mind".
What should I do?

I would give him one more chance, and one ONLY. I'd make it VERY clear
that if something even remotely comes out of his mouth that I think
may be racist, his ass is gone.

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I have two guys who work in the machine shop here, an older black guy
who knows everything possible about machining and a younger guy who
sorta gets by. They work well together and are friends. We were
talking about where to go for lunch and the young guy asked 'Wanna go
get Chinese food", "No, we did that last week". Then he asks, "How
about some N*gg*r food". Total silence as the rest of us were
shocked. Then he says "Oh, never mind".
What should I do?



Give him the number of the local Republican Party?

Seriously, if the young guy only gets by, fire him and hire someone good
who is a little brighter socially.

Failing that, take him to your office, tell him that sort of talk is
unacceptable, and tell him to apologize to your older black guy. Tell
him if he does it again, he's history.

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I have two guys who work in the machine shop here, an older black guy
who knows everything possible about machining and a younger guy who
sorta gets by. They work well together and are friends. We were
talking about where to go for lunch and the young guy asked 'Wanna go
get Chinese food", "No, we did that last week". Then he asks, "How
about some N*gg*r food". Total silence as the rest of us were
shocked. Then he says "Oh, never mind".
What should I do?

It's your business?

I'd take him aside and tell him that language isn't acceptable. Then have
him apologize to the black guy.
I'd document the meeting just in case something came of this problem in the
future.... you may not have to enter it in the young guys file, but it
should be at hand.

Funny, though, it's ok for some young black people to use that language
among themselves, but no whiteboy had better try it.

Don White wrote:
wrote in message
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I have two guys who work in the machine shop here, an older black guy
who knows everything possible about machining and a younger guy who
sorta gets by. They work well together and are friends. We were
talking about where to go for lunch and the young guy asked 'Wanna go
get Chinese food", "No, we did that last week". Then he asks, "How
about some N*gg*r food". Total silence as the rest of us were
shocked. Then he says "Oh, never mind".
What should I do?

It's your business?

I'd take him aside and tell him that language isn't acceptable. Then have
him apologize to the black guy.
I'd document the meeting just in case something came of this problem in the
future.... you may not have to enter it in the young guys file, but it
should be at hand.

Funny, though, it's ok for some young black people to use that language
among themselves, but no whiteboy had better try it.


It's OK for them to call us cracker and stuff too. What is your company
policy?

Either way, I would bring them both together and see if there is a
problem, if not, let them shake hands and continue on. The guy was
probably being a smart ass, and crossed the line, probably feels bad too
so let them dictate how it goes..

On Oct 1, 1:35*pm, "Don White" wrote:
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I have two guys who work in the machine shop here, an older black guy
who knows everything possible about machining and a younger guy who
sorta gets by. *They work well together and are friends. *We were
talking about where to go for lunch and the young guy asked 'Wanna go
get Chinese food", "No, we did that last week". *Then he asks, "How
about some N*gg*r food". *Total silence as the rest of us were
shocked. *Then he says "Oh, never mind".
What should I do?

It's your business?

I'd take him aside and tell him that language isn't acceptable. Then have
him apologize to the black guy.
I'd document the meeting just in case something came of this problem in the
future.... you may not have to enter it in the young guys file, but it
should be at hand.

Funny, though, it's ok for some young black people to use that language
among themselves, but no whiteboy had better try it.

I've got a black neighbor who frequently has friends and family over
for parties, I'm always invited. I've never heard any of them ever
utter the word. And they don't call white people names either. He does
however, have a very logical explanation as to why some urban types do
use that word. But, again, it's logical, so it'd be wasted on all of
the Harryclones.

On Oct 1, 2:54 pm, wrote:
On Oct 1, 1:35 pm, "Don White" wrote:



wrote in message

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I have two guys who work in the machine shop here, an older black guy
who knows everything possible about machining and a younger guy who
sorta gets by. They work well together and are friends. We were
talking about where to go for lunch and the young guy asked 'Wanna go
get Chinese food", "No, we did that last week". Then he asks, "How
about some N*gg*r food". Total silence as the rest of us were
shocked. Then he says "Oh, never mind".
What should I do?

It's your business?

I'd take him aside and tell him that language isn't acceptable. Then have
him apologize to the black guy.
I'd document the meeting just in case something came of this problem in the
future.... you may not have to enter it in the young guys file, but it
should be at hand.

Funny, though, it's ok for some young black people to use that language
among themselves, but no whiteboy had better try it.

I've got a black neighbor who frequently has friends and family over
for parties, I'm always invited. I've never heard any of them ever
utter the word. And they don't call white people names either. He does
however, have a very logical explanation as to why some urban types do
use that word. But, again, it's logical, so it'd be wasted on all of
the Harryclones.

He knows he did wrong. After lunch he apologized to everybody. Said
he was just kidding with his friend and ran his mouth without
thinking. I laid down the law about such stuff.

wrote:
On Oct 1, 2:54 pm, wrote:
On Oct 1, 1:35 pm, "Don White" wrote:



wrote in message
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I have two guys who work in the machine shop here, an older black guy
who knows everything possible about machining and a younger guy who
sorta gets by. They work well together and are friends. We were
talking about where to go for lunch and the young guy asked 'Wanna go
get Chinese food", "No, we did that last week". Then he asks, "How
about some N*gg*r food". Total silence as the rest of us were
shocked. Then he says "Oh, never mind".
What should I do?
It's your business?
I'd take him aside and tell him that language isn't acceptable. Then have
him apologize to the black guy.
I'd document the meeting just in case something came of this problem in the
future.... you may not have to enter it in the young guys file, but it
should be at hand.
Funny, though, it's ok for some young black people to use that language
among themselves, but no whiteboy had better try it.
I've got a black neighbor who frequently has friends and family over
for parties, I'm always invited. I've never heard any of them ever
utter the word. And they don't call white people names either. He does
however, have a very logical explanation as to why some urban types do
use that word. But, again, it's logical, so it'd be wasted on all of
the Harryclones.

He knows he did wrong. After lunch he apologized to everybody. Said
he was just kidding with his friend and ran his mouth without
thinking. I laid down the law about such stuff.



Be thankful you don't have a Justwaitaloogy working for you...you'd have
daily fistfights.

On Oct 1, 3:09 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 1, 2:54 pm, wrote:
On Oct 1, 1:35 pm, "Don White" wrote:

wrote in message
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I have two guys who work in the machine shop here, an older black guy
who knows everything possible about machining and a younger guy who
sorta gets by. They work well together and are friends. We were
talking about where to go for lunch and the young guy asked 'Wanna go
get Chinese food", "No, we did that last week". Then he asks, "How
about some N*gg*r food". Total silence as the rest of us were
shocked. Then he says "Oh, never mind".
What should I do?
It's your business?
I'd take him aside and tell him that language isn't acceptable. Then have
him apologize to the black guy.
I'd document the meeting just in case something came of this problem in the
future.... you may not have to enter it in the young guys file, but it
should be at hand.
Funny, though, it's ok for some young black people to use that language
among themselves, but no whiteboy had better try it.
I've got a black neighbor who frequently has friends and family over
for parties, I'm always invited. I've never heard any of them ever
utter the word. And they don't call white people names either. He does
however, have a very logical explanation as to why some urban types do
use that word. But, again, it's logical, so it'd be wasted on all of
the Harryclones.

He knows he did wrong. After lunch he apologized to everybody. Said
he was just kidding with his friend and ran his mouth without
thinking. I laid down the law about such stuff.

Be thankful you don't have a Justwaitaloogy working for you...you'd have
daily fistfights.

I hate having employees. If you ever start your own company, avoid
employees at all costs. Keep people as indep. contractors if
possible. Employees expect you to take care of them and I dont want
to take care of anybody. Am tired of personality conflicts, tired of
worrying about their job security, what about mine? Tired of the
friggin paperwork for each one of em. NJ wants me to garnish one guys
wages for back child support, like hell, that isnt my business.
Workers comp insurance, you gotta be kidding, My god, I was better off
by myself. "I have a Ph.D. and should be making X $/hr" one whines
and I think "In yer friggin dreams, go try to get that around here".
I cut hours of one part timer who didnt get along with anybody and he
blurted out "I just took on $30,000 debt" and my jaw nearly hit the
floor. "Is that my business", I think. What about my company debt
for which I am personally liable, does he expect me to simply mortgage
my house to pay him more? The young guy who made the racial slur
drives a spanking new Ford 150 with every add-on you can imagine and
his wife drives a 2007 Yukon and he confessed to having $60,000 in cc
debt and is now going on a cruise. HOLY SH#$. What planet do these
people live on?
Sorry bout the tirade, just venting

wrote:
On Oct 1, 3:09 pm, A Real Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 1, 2:54 pm, wrote:
On Oct 1, 1:35 pm, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message
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I have two guys who work in the machine shop here, an older black guy
who knows everything possible about machining and a younger guy who
sorta gets by. They work well together and are friends. We were
talking about where to go for lunch and the young guy asked 'Wanna go
get Chinese food", "No, we did that last week". Then he asks, "How
about some N*gg*r food". Total silence as the rest of us were
shocked. Then he says "Oh, never mind".
What should I do?
It's your business?
I'd take him aside and tell him that language isn't acceptable. Then have
him apologize to the black guy.
I'd document the meeting just in case something came of this problem in the
future.... you may not have to enter it in the young guys file, but it
should be at hand.
Funny, though, it's ok for some young black people to use that language
among themselves, but no whiteboy had better try it.
I've got a black neighbor who frequently has friends and family over
for parties, I'm always invited. I've never heard any of them ever
utter the word. And they don't call white people names either. He does
however, have a very logical explanation as to why some urban types do
use that word. But, again, it's logical, so it'd be wasted on all of
the Harryclones.
He knows he did wrong. After lunch he apologized to everybody. Said
he was just kidding with his friend and ran his mouth without
thinking. I laid down the law about such stuff.
Be thankful you don't have a Justwaitaloogy working for you...you'd have
daily fistfights.

I hate having employees. If you ever start your own company, avoid
employees at all costs. Keep people as indep. contractors if
possible.


The new American way...avoid wage-hour laws, step around fringe
benefits, and use your "contracted employees" up. When they break, get
new ones.

Sorry...not a way I would do it. Now, contracting out professional
(legal, accounting, et ceters) or infrequently used services...sure.