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On Sep 29, 7:17 pm, "John R. Carroll"
wrote:
Tom Gardner wrote:
"Republicans Are Sissies" wrote in message
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Yes, the republicans are blaming house speaker Nancy Pelosi for the
failure of the Bailout to pass. Why? Because she made a partisan
speech.

We can't have people voting for a bill if there have been any
partisan speeches. The devastation of listening to a partisan speech
on the floor of the house was just too much for the delicate
sensibilities of the sissies on the right. So they were forced to
vote no against the bill, regardless of whether it was good for the
economy.

As Nancy Pelosi walked from the lectern the republicans all started
handing her their balls since they would not be needing them anymore.

How many democrats voted against the bill? Were they offended by
Nancy too?

A Bill brought to the Congress by a Republican President by his Secretary
of
the Treasury got more support from Democrats than Republicans.
I didn't think it was a good bill but to have it fail for twelve votes
that
should have been forthcoming from Republican ranks isn't due to Nancy
Pelosi's remarks. It is another failure by George Bush and John McCain
lead
effectively.

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So, the republicans voting their conscience while Nancy Pelosi tried
to cover for the dems who voted with the coming election in mind is
the problem? No. It's just more dishonest voodo like when Pelosi told
her legions to go ahead and "say" they were in favor of drilling, all
the while with a wink and a nod, promising to make sure they never had
to cast that vote.. No, Nancy was only trying to cover the spread, and
it didn't work. I bet if you look, you will find the dems who voted no
were up for re-election this term and could not risk voting a party
line...

Hey, jackass: It was Bush and the Republican leadership who called for
this bill. It was Republican administration officials, including all of
their Treasury and economic advisors. It was the Republican-appointed Fed
Chairman. It was the House minority leader. It was Bush himself.

Get it?

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Ed Huntress


What did the dems pad the bill with?

"Tom Gardner" wrote in message
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message

What did the dems pad the bill with?


Doesn't matter really. I think Pelosi wanted the bill to fail to look bad
for McCain. My thoughts on the bill.


I think the failure to pass was a good thing. This whole bill has been
rushed to the floor. 110 pages. How many Representatives actually read
the bill and understood what it said? How did the $800,000,000,000 number
come about? Look at the changes in the last 48 hours. 20% to groups that
seem to help the poor. Removed at the last minute. Bunch of money to
states and cities. Removed at the last minute. We got the energy
deregulation disaster in California the same exact way this bill was being
pushed. Last minute, bill coming off the cop machine as it was being
voted on. Totally FUBAR. The world will not end of it takes a week longer
to pass this bill. The financial system will not melt down anymore in the
next week. What will happen if we take $800,000,000,000 or whatever out of
the economy? Will you be able to get a loan to pay for the overpriced
books and tuition for you kids and grandkids? Maybe change the capital
gains to not tax inflation growth money. The government has pushed
borrowing,, etc. If people tried to save, they taxed the money and gave an
economic stimulus check to everyone. The government just keeps printing
money. Our economy has been based on credit for the last 30 years, and the
piper has to be paid. The bail-out-bucks are just going to postpone the
inevitable unless we change the give it to me now attitude.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"Tom Gardner" wrote in message
news

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message

What did the dems pad the bill with?


Doesn't matter really. I think Pelosi wanted the bill to fail to look bad
for McCain. My thoughts on the bill.



Good point. I wondered about her motives.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"Tom Gardner" wrote in message
news

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message

What did the dems pad the bill with?


Doesn't matter really. I think Pelosi wanted the bill to fail to look bad
for McCain. My thoughts on the bill.

So she made the Republicans mad, and they decided to punish the country to
get back at her.

It's not a fun week to be John McCain -- or any Republican. They've gone
looney.

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
"Tom Gardner" wrote in message
news
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
What did the dems pad the bill with?

Doesn't matter really. I think Pelosi wanted the bill to fail to look bad
for McCain. My thoughts on the bill.

So she made the Republicans mad, and they decided to punish the country to
get back at her.

It's not a fun week to be John McCain -- or any Republican. They've gone
looney.

--
Ed Huntress






Actually, McCain is being McCain - short-tempered, blaming others, no
deliberative abilities.

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:58:45 -0400, A Real Boater wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
"Tom Gardner" wrote in message
news "Ed Huntress" wrote in message What did the
dems pad the bill with?

Doesn't matter really. I think Pelosi wanted the bill to fail to look
bad for McCain. My thoughts on the bill.

So she made the Republicans mad, and they decided to punish the country
to get back at her.

It's not a fun week to be John McCain -- or any Republican. They've gone
looney.

--
Ed Huntress






Actually, McCain is being McCain - short-tempered, blaming others, no
deliberative abilities.

John McCain was a fighter pilot with all the attributes that requires.
Understand the job requirements then compare that with what you want in a
president. Do you want reaction or contemplation in international
affairs. Do you want a man who's first response is to attack with his
finger on the Nuclear Button? Do you want a man who first wants to "win"
at any cost?

My experience with USAF fighter pilots indicates that profession should
deny a jock from the presidency. Navy fighter pilots are storied to be
worse. Carrier fighter pilots the most reactionary, extreme,
uncontrollable of all. That should be of concern in the office of
President.

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Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:58:45 -0400, A Real Boater wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
"Tom Gardner" wrote in message
news "Ed Huntress" wrote in message What did the
dems pad the bill with?
Doesn't matter really. I think Pelosi wanted the bill to fail to look
bad for McCain. My thoughts on the bill.
So she made the Republicans mad, and they decided to punish the country
to get back at her.

It's not a fun week to be John McCain -- or any Republican. They've gone
looney.

--
Ed Huntress





Actually, McCain is being McCain - short-tempered, blaming others, no
deliberative abilities.

John McCain was a fighter pilot with all the attributes that requires.
Understand the job requirements then compare that with what you want in a
president. Do you want reaction or contemplation in international
affairs. Do you want a man who's first response is to attack with his
finger on the Nuclear Button? Do you want a man who first wants to "win"
at any cost?

My experience with USAF fighter pilots indicates that profession should
deny a jock from the presidency. Navy fighter pilots are storied to be
worse. Carrier fighter pilots the most reactionary, extreme,
uncontrollable of all. That should be of concern in the office of
President.




I agree completely. Further, I believe I read in one of the books about
McCain that he blames himself for getting himself shot down over
Vietnam, because of too much bravado, macho, or ego.

We've had eight years of the White House being occupied by a man not
known for contemplation. We're all suffering the results of that.

There's no place for someone quick on the trigger in the White House.
There's just too much at stake and too many ways to make really serious
errors.

I think the last few weeks have been revealing and educational for those
Americans who are actually thinking about which of the two candidates
has the intelligence and temperament to be President of the United
States. Obama or Biden can handle the job. McCain shoots from the hip
and Palin, well, I don't think she has the qualifications to run an ice
cream shop.

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:15:19 -0400, A Real Boater
wrote:

Obama or Biden can handle the job. McCain shoots from the hip
and Palin, well, I don't think she has the qualifications to run an ice
cream shop.


Floater would approve of any Village Idiot, as long as it was a
registered Democrat

Gunner

On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:15:19 -0400, A Real Boater wrote:

Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:58:45 -0400, A Real Boater wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
"Tom Gardner" wrote in message
news "Ed Huntress" wrote in message What did
the dems pad the bill with?
Doesn't matter really. I think Pelosi wanted the bill to fail to
look bad for McCain. My thoughts on the bill.
So she made the Republicans mad, and they decided to punish the
country to get back at her.

It's not a fun week to be John McCain -- or any Republican. They've
gone looney.

--
Ed Huntress





Actually, McCain is being McCain - short-tempered, blaming others, no
deliberative abilities.

John McCain was a fighter pilot with all the attributes that requires.
Understand the job requirements then compare that with what you want in
a president. Do you want reaction or contemplation in international
affairs. Do you want a man who's first response is to attack with his
finger on the Nuclear Button? Do you want a man who first wants to
"win" at any cost?

My experience with USAF fighter pilots indicates that profession should
deny a jock from the presidency. Navy fighter pilots are storied to be
worse. Carrier fighter pilots the most reactionary, extreme,
uncontrollable of all. That should be of concern in the office of
President.




I agree completely. Further, I believe I read in one of the books about
McCain that he blames himself for getting himself shot down over Vietnam,
because of too much bravado, macho, or ego.

We've had eight years of the White House being occupied by a man not known
for contemplation. We're all suffering the results of that.

There's no place for someone quick on the trigger in the White House.
There's just too much at stake and too many ways to make really serious
errors.

I think the last few weeks have been revealing and educational for those
Americans who are actually thinking about which of the two candidates has
the intelligence and temperament to be President of the United States.
Obama or Biden can handle the job. McCain shoots from the hip and Palin,
well, I don't think she has the qualifications to run an ice cream shop.

Agreed but please note that I do not support Obama either. McCain/Palin
are flat-assed dangerous and Obama/Biden are socialists. I don't want
either in the White House.

The Republicans will lose the presidential electorate by about 62% to 30%
with Nader and Barr picking up a few electoral college votes. It's going
to be a run-away as voters begin to recognize the danger of McCain/Palin.

That saddens me for the state of the nation is so badly torn that diddling
with little stuph isn't going to fix fundamental problems. Obama wants a
socialist state with government ordered income redistribution. We've seen
where this leads with the Republicans tranferring massive middle-class
wealth to the rich. Obama will do the opposite, transfer massive middle
and upper class wealth to the poor.

Only when people realize that both parties are corrupt, sneer at their
oaths of office, and work for special interests will America recover.
I certainly hope not but that may require the use of the Second Amendment
to enforce.

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On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 13:58:45 -0400, A Real Boater
wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
"Tom Gardner" wrote in message
news "Ed Huntress" wrote in message
What did the dems pad the bill with?

Doesn't matter really. I think Pelosi wanted the bill to fail to look bad
for McCain. My thoughts on the bill.

So she made the Republicans mad, and they decided to punish the country to
get back at her.

It's not a fun week to be John McCain -- or any Republican. They've gone
looney.

--
Ed Huntress






Actually, McCain is being McCain - short-tempered, blaming others, no
deliberative abilities.


Odd..he sounds like Hillary doesnt he?

Gunner