On Sep 19, 1:48*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:16:33 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Texas, like Fl has law that says any of the beach between high and low
tide is public land and nothing me be built there. *Of course, Ike has
moved the beach so many homes there are now below high tide line so
they cannot rebuild. *Too effin bad I say. *These idjits knew that was
the case before they built but did anyway.

The problem is they had a weak building code.
This one did OK, built to a 150 MPH wind code and exceeding minimum
FEMA elevationhttp://esteroriverheights.com/electrical/art.gilchrist.house.irpt.jpg

The trouble is that even if a structure is built to resist the forces
of a 200mph wind, it isn't practical to build one to resist the forces
of wind blown debris. Once you have compromised the wall, which is
acting as a diaphram to resist those wind forces with wind blown
debris, bad things start happening quickly.

On Sep 19, 2:11*pm, wrote:
On Sep 19, 1:48*pm, wrote:

On Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:16:33 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Texas, like Fl has law that says any of the beach between high and low
tide is public land and nothing me be built there. *Of course, Ike has
moved the beach so many homes there are now below high tide line so
they cannot rebuild. *Too effin bad I say. *These idjits knew that was
the case before they built but did anyway.

The problem is they had a weak building code.
This one did OK, built to a 150 MPH wind code and exceeding minimum
FEMA elevationhttp://esteroriverheights.com/electrical/art.gilchrist.house.irpt.jpg

The trouble is that even if a structure is built to resist the forces
of a 200mph wind, it isn't practical to build one to resist the forces
of wind blown debris. Once you have compromised the wall, which is
acting as a diaphram to resist those wind forces with wind blown
debris, bad things start happening quickly.

I would think that being able to absorb impact forces of debris would
be one of the criteria for a structure being rated as being able to
resists the forces of a 200 mph wind.

wrote in message
...

The trouble is that even if a structure is built to resist the forces
of a 200mph wind, it isn't practical to build one to resist the forces
of wind blown debris. Once you have compromised the wall, which is
acting as a diaphram to resist those wind forces with wind blown
debris, bad things start happening quickly.

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Yep. The house we had in Florida was built in the late 90's and was
designed to withstand 150 mph winds.

The house structure was fine. But during one of the 3 hurricanes that hit
back in 2002-2003, the double door "French Doorway" opened during a gust.

The rest was history. Totally destroyed much of the interior, blowing open
three more double doors to the outside.

If the main, double door had held tight, minimal damage to the house would
have occurred.

Eisboch

On Sep 19, 9:39*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

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The trouble is that even if a structure is built to resist the forces
of a 200mph wind, it isn't practical to build one to resist the forces
of wind blown debris. Once you have compromised the wall, which is
acting as a diaphram to resist those wind forces with wind blown
debris, bad things start happening quickly.

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Yep. *The house we had in Florida was built in the late 90's and was
designed to withstand 150 mph winds.

The house structure was fine. *But during one of the 3 hurricanes that hit
back in 2002-2003, the double door "French Doorway" opened during a gust.

The rest was history. * Totally destroyed much of the interior, blowing open
three more double doors to the outside.

If the main, double door had held tight, minimal damage to the house would
have occurred.

Eisboch

A hit on any piece of unprotected or improperly secured door or window
opening on a 200 mph rated structure will indeed impact on the
integrity of the structure.

And?

On Sep 19, 10:00*pm, JimH wrote:
On Sep 19, 9:39*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:





wrote in message

....

The trouble is that even if a structure is built to resist the forces
of a 200mph wind, it isn't practical to build one to resist the forces
of wind blown debris. Once you have compromised the wall, which is
acting as a diaphram to resist those wind forces with wind blown
debris, bad things start happening quickly.

---------------------------------------

Yep. *The house we had in Florida was built in the late 90's and was
designed to withstand 150 mph winds.

The house structure was fine. *But during one of the 3 hurricanes that hit
back in 2002-2003, the double door "French Doorway" opened during a gust.

On Sep 19, 10:26 pm, wrote:
On Sep 19, 10:00 pm, JimH wrote:



On Sep 19, 9:39 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:

wrote in message

...

The trouble is that even if a structure is built to resist the forces
of a 200mph wind, it isn't practical to build one to resist the forces
of wind blown debris. Once you have compromised the wall, which is
acting as a diaphram to resist those wind forces with wind blown
debris, bad things start happening quickly.

---------------------------------------

Yep. The house we had in Florida was built in the late 90's and was
designed to withstand 150 mph winds.

The house structure was fine. But during one of the 3 hurricanes that hit
back in 2002-2003, the double door "French Doorway" opened during a gust.

The rest was history. Totally destroyed much of the interior, blowing open
three more double doors to the outside.

If the main, double door had held tight, minimal damage to the house would
have occurred.

Eisboch

A hit on any piece of unprotected or improperly secured door or window
opening on a 200 mph rated structure will indeed impact on the
integrity of the structure.

Hilarious. JimH, the Ohio idiot, is now an expert on hurricane rated
structures. What a laugh.

Real Florida natives do not live on the coast, we have better sense.
The coast moves around and a 20' surge can ruin things. FL Crackers
who needed to be at the coast to fish for mullet would have frame
houses with the electrical stuff coming from the ceiling in case of
flooding and none of that dry wall either, and insulation, hell, this
is FL. They'd furnish it from a rummage sale and when it flooded
you'd see all the mattresses being burned and then they'd go to
another rummage sale. Now, these fools have homes worth millions of
dollars in a place where they are guaranteed to get hit and they
expect me o help pay their insurance, morons.

AS far as things o see here, Thank God ppl are stupid enough to think
Disney or MGM is great cuz it keeps em away from the good stuff. Put
razor wire along I-75 and dont let em out of the Miami-Orlando-Atlanta
corridor. Tourist, pay yer money and git souvenirs of plastic
alligators from China, THEN GO HOME.

On Sep 19, 11:33 pm, wrote:
On Sep 19, 10:26 pm, wrote:



On Sep 19, 10:00 pm, JimH wrote:

On Sep 19, 9:39 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:

wrote in message

...

The trouble is that even if a structure is built to resist the forces
of a 200mph wind, it isn't practical to build one to resist the forces
of wind blown debris. Once you have compromised the wall, which is
acting as a diaphram to resist those wind forces with wind blown
debris, bad things start happening quickly.

---------------------------------------

Yep. The house we had in Florida was built in the late 90's and was
designed to withstand 150 mph winds.

The house structure was fine. But during one of the 3 hurricanes that hit
back in 2002-2003, the double door "French Doorway" opened during a gust.

The rest was history. Totally destroyed much of the interior, blowing open
three more double doors to the outside.

If the main, double door had held tight, minimal damage to the house would
have occurred.

Eisboch

A hit on any piece of unprotected or improperly secured door or window
opening on a 200 mph rated structure will indeed impact on the
integrity of the structure.

Hilarious. JimH, the Ohio idiot, is now an expert on hurricane rated
structures. What a laugh.

Real Florida natives do not live on the coast, we have better sense.
The coast moves around and a 20' surge can ruin things. FL Crackers
who needed to be at the coast to fish for mullet would have frame
houses with the electrical stuff coming from the ceiling in case of
flooding and none of that dry wall either, and insulation, hell, this
is FL. They'd furnish it from a rummage sale and when it flooded
you'd see all the mattresses being burned and then they'd go to
another rummage sale. Now, these fools have homes worth millions of
dollars in a place where they are guaranteed to get hit and they
expect me o help pay their insurance, morons.

AS far as things o see here, Thank God ppl are stupid enough to think
Disney or MGM is great cuz it keeps em away from the good stuff. Put
razor wire along I-75 and dont let em out of the Miami-Orlando-Atlanta
corridor. Tourist, pay yer money and git souvenirs of plastic
alligators from China, THEN GO HOME.

And another thing, the closest you'll get me to Canada is a friggin
snow globe.
(I hope y'all aren't taking me seriously)