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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:13:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sep 15, 5:47 pm, John H. wrote:
Gone four days and back to 853 messages. Over 300 from one individual.

Had a great time at Virginia Beach. Saw lots of boats. Will post pictures
of some when I get the chance.

Air conditioner kept popping the circuit breaker when the temp was hovering
around 95 yesterday.

Anyone know anything about air conditioners?
--
John H.
John, I take it you're talking about your auto air conditioner?

What make and model?

No, Tim, it's one of these buggers: http://tinyurl.com/69jflb

The one on the trailer. Once the outside temp cooled down, in the evening,
the AC ran fine. But during the hottest part of the day, the thing would
trip the circuit breaker no matter how we adjusted the settings. I found a
web site, so I'll do a little research.

Call the dealer. It's got to be still covered under a warantee.

Holy shit!
 

Temp does have something to do with it. At higher outside temps ac runs
higher pressures. Takes more current to start the compressor. AC
copmpressors have to start under a load so they need a lot of current
initially. First make sure you have the correct circuit breaker. Then
replace if it's old it cause when they get old they blow at lower than
rated. Voltage brownout will do it as well. Check and tighten all the
connections. None of that works call the service guy cause you're probably
not qualified to go any deeper.

"John H." wrote in message
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:41:33 -0400, DK wrote:

John H. wrote:
Gone four days and back to 853 messages. Over 300 from one individual.

Had a great time at Virginia Beach. Saw lots of boats. Will post
pictures
of some when I get the chance.

Air conditioner kept popping the circuit breaker when the temp was
hovering
around 95 yesterday.

Anyone know anything about air conditioners?

Sure. They remove heat from your house, car, boat, etc.

The temperature has nothing to do with your problem. Something else is
in need of a replacement.

Then why did it work in the evening, and all morning when the temperature
was lower?

Don't even tell me it has something to do with Global Warming!
--
John H.

Holy shit!
 

On Sep 15, 6:49*pm, John H. wrote:


No, Tim, it's one of these buggers:http://tinyurl.com/69jflb

The one on the trailer. Once the outside temp cooled down, in the evening,
the AC ran fine. But during the hottest part of the day, the thing would
trip the circuit breaker no matter how we adjusted the settings. I found a
web site, so I'll do a little research.
--
John H.

My opinions.
#1 weak breaker, but doubtful.

#2 defective fan that "drags" a bit too much, but doubtful

#3, compressor is having to work extended time due to higher temps.
Very possible.

#4 not recirculating inside air because the fresh air vent is open
( or at least not closing) drawing moisture causing the evaporator
coil to frost over especially in high humidity.

#5 it could be a clogged filter, AND/OR clogged condenser coil. That
is if it is a used unit.

#6 too much freon. If it's been recharged in the past, sometimes they
cram too much freon into the thing, because they want it to be colder
than cold. But what happens is it over loads the compressor

Like previously mentioned, if it's under warranty then nit-pick them
to death until they fix it.

Holy shit!
 

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:37:56 -0400, DK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:13:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sep 15, 5:47 pm, John H. wrote:
Gone four days and back to 853 messages. Over 300 from one individual.

Had a great time at Virginia Beach. Saw lots of boats. Will post pictures
of some when I get the chance.

Air conditioner kept popping the circuit breaker when the temp was hovering
around 95 yesterday.

Anyone know anything about air conditioners?
--
John H.
John, I take it you're talking about your auto air conditioner?

What make and model?

No, Tim, it's one of these buggers: http://tinyurl.com/69jflb

The one on the trailer. Once the outside temp cooled down, in the evening,
the AC ran fine. But during the hottest part of the day, the thing would
trip the circuit breaker no matter how we adjusted the settings. I found a
web site, so I'll do a little research.

Call the dealer. It's got to be still covered under a warantee.

I did. In fact, I stopped by the dealer on the way back. He said if the
system showed no problems when they ran it, and the outflow was twenty
degrees cooler than the inflow, then they'd do nothing more. Needless to
say, I got a little hot.


--
John H.

Holy shit!
 

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:40:16 -0400, "jamesgangnc" wrote:

Temp does have something to do with it. At higher outside temps ac runs
higher pressures. Takes more current to start the compressor. AC
copmpressors have to start under a load so they need a lot of current
initially. First make sure you have the correct circuit breaker. Then
replace if it's old it cause when they get old they blow at lower than
rated. Voltage brownout will do it as well. Check and tighten all the
connections. None of that works call the service guy cause you're probably
not qualified to go any deeper.


Thanks for getting back to me. I've thought of the circuit breaker, but
couldn't find one yesterday. Then I rationalized that it couldn't be the
breaker because it ran at other times. I didn't know they would draw more
when the weather was hot.

The park was almost empty, so the brownout idea probably wouldn't apply.
The trailer is this year's model, and I've had it only two and a half
months. I'll try the circuit breaker replacement if the dealer says he
can't find a problem.
--
John H.

Holy shit!
 

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:40:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sep 15, 6:49*pm, John H. wrote:


No, Tim, it's one of these buggers:http://tinyurl.com/69jflb

The one on the trailer. Once the outside temp cooled down, in the evening,
the AC ran fine. But during the hottest part of the day, the thing would
trip the circuit breaker no matter how we adjusted the settings. I found a
web site, so I'll do a little research.
--
John H.

My opinions.
#1 weak breaker, but doubtful.

#2 defective fan that "drags" a bit too much, but doubtful

#3, compressor is having to work extended time due to higher temps.
Very possible.

#4 not recirculating inside air because the fresh air vent is open
( or at least not closing) drawing moisture causing the evaporator
coil to frost over especially in high humidity.

#5 it could be a clogged filter, AND/OR clogged condenser coil. That
is if it is a used unit.

#6 too much freon. If it's been recharged in the past, sometimes they
cram too much freon into the thing, because they want it to be colder
than cold. But what happens is it over loads the compressor

Like previously mentioned, if it's under warranty then nit-pick them
to death until they fix it.


Thanks Tim. Lots of possibilities, but some of them I can check. I'll do so
tomorrow.

Thanks again.
--
John H.

Holy shit!
 

"A Boater" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:13:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Sep 15, 5:47 pm, John H. wrote:
Gone four days and back to 853 messages. Over 300 from one individual.

Had a great time at Virginia Beach. Saw lots of boats. Will post
pictures
of some when I get the chance.

Air conditioner kept popping the circuit breaker when the temp was
hovering
around 95 yesterday.

Anyone know anything about air conditioners?
--
John H.
John, I take it you're talking about your auto air conditioner?

What make and model?
No, Tim, it's one of these buggers: http://tinyurl.com/69jflb

The one on the trailer. Once the outside temp cooled down, in the
evening,
the AC ran fine. But during the hottest part of the day, the thing would
trip the circuit breaker no matter how we adjusted the settings. I found
a
web site, so I'll do a little research.
--
John H.

I think your warranty would be expected to cover that. I wouldn't start
monkeying with anything until that warranty period is up.


Let me see here. You're outside, inside a metal sardine can, in a trailer
park full of other metal sardine cans. You're all hooked up to the trailer
park's wiring, and you all have your air conditioning on. The voltage is
dropping.
Hmmm.


That's a possibility.
A good multimeter would be a handy test tool in that case.
Better tell John how to use one to test the voltage at an A/C outlet.

Holy shit!
 

Don White wrote:
"A Boater" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:13:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Sep 15, 5:47 pm, John H. wrote:
Gone four days and back to 853 messages. Over 300 from one individual.

Had a great time at Virginia Beach. Saw lots of boats. Will post
pictures
of some when I get the chance.

Air conditioner kept popping the circuit breaker when the temp was
hovering
around 95 yesterday.

Anyone know anything about air conditioners?
--
John H.
John, I take it you're talking about your auto air conditioner?

What make and model?
No, Tim, it's one of these buggers: http://tinyurl.com/69jflb

The one on the trailer. Once the outside temp cooled down, in the
evening,
the AC ran fine. But during the hottest part of the day, the thing would
trip the circuit breaker no matter how we adjusted the settings. I found
a
web site, so I'll do a little research.
--
John H.
I think your warranty would be expected to cover that. I wouldn't start
monkeying with anything until that warranty period is up.

Let me see here. You're outside, inside a metal sardine can, in a trailer
park full of other metal sardine cans. You're all hooked up to the trailer
park's wiring, and you all have your air conditioning on. The voltage is
dropping.
Hmmm.


That's a possibility.
A good multimeter would be a handy test tool in that case.
Better tell John how to use one to test the voltage at an A/C outlet.




I would recommend that Herring wet two fingernails and stick them in the
outlet. If he gets a woody, it's 110.

It was very hot one day this past weekend, in the mid 90s. Typically
there are voltage drops in the utility wiring when that happens. I know
that for several reasons, one of which being the rather substantial UPS
I have for electronic appliances. When the power drops a bit, it
switches over to the batteries, even if it is just for a couple of seconds.

Herring may have some other problem, but I would guess a minor drop in
line voltage.

I thought our boy was a former Army engineer or something like that.
Doesn't he know any science, or is he one of those who believes in
cretinism, er, creationism?

Holy shit!
 

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:50:20 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:


"A Boater" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:13:48 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Sep 15, 5:47 pm, John H. wrote:
Gone four days and back to 853 messages. Over 300 from one individual.

Had a great time at Virginia Beach. Saw lots of boats. Will post
pictures
of some when I get the chance.

Air conditioner kept popping the circuit breaker when the temp was
hovering
around 95 yesterday.

Anyone know anything about air conditioners?
--
John H.
John, I take it you're talking about your auto air conditioner?

What make and model?
No, Tim, it's one of these buggers: http://tinyurl.com/69jflb

The one on the trailer. Once the outside temp cooled down, in the
evening,
the AC ran fine. But during the hottest part of the day, the thing would
trip the circuit breaker no matter how we adjusted the settings. I found
a
web site, so I'll do a little research.
--
John H.

I think your warranty would be expected to cover that. I wouldn't start
monkeying with anything until that warranty period is up.


Let me see here. You're outside, inside a metal sardine can, in a trailer
park full of other metal sardine cans. You're all hooked up to the trailer
park's wiring, and you all have your air conditioning on. The voltage is
dropping.
Hmmm.


That's a possibility.
A good multimeter would be a handy test tool in that case.
Better tell John how to use one to test the voltage at an A/C outlet.


Even when there are no crowds, Campsite wiring, like marina wiring is
always a prime suspect for something such as this. ****forbra... I
mean, JohnH, might be at the far end of a very long circuit. When the
ice machine at the camp store has to work harder to keep the ice
frozen during the day...

Holy shit!
 

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:17:07 -0400, A Boater wrote:




I would recommend that Herring wet two fingernails and stick them in the
outlet. If he gets a woody, it's 110.


In his case, I think 240 3-phase would be called for at the minimum.