See ya'll after the election...
 

Had enough folks - I'm unsubscribing - probably until after the New
Year.

To tell the truth, probably not even then - too much to do and I've
taken on a huge new professional responsibility which is also going to
take up a lot of time.

Y'all take care.

See 'ya around.

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:12:03 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Had enough folks - I'm unsubscribing - probably until after the New
Year.

To tell the truth, probably not even then - too much to do and I've
taken on a huge new professional responsibility which is also going to
take up a lot of time.

Y'all take care.

See 'ya around.

That's a shame, but congratulations.

One less person for Harry to call names.

See ya'll after the election...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Had enough folks - I'm unsubscribing - probably until after the New
Year.

To tell the truth, probably not even then - too much to do and I've
taken on a huge new professional responsibility which is also going to
take up a lot of time.

Y'all take care.

See 'ya around.

hk has plenty of *professional* responsibility, and seems to find time to
drop a line or two in here.

Good luck in your new endeavor, your knowledge of many subjects will be
missed by most, if not *all*.

See ya'll after the election...
 

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Had enough folks - I'm unsubscribing - probably until after the New
Year.

To tell the truth, probably not even then - too much to do and I've
taken on a huge new professional responsibility which is also going to
take up a lot of time.

Y'all take care.

See 'ya around.

Tom has been named godfather to Bristol Palin's little bundle.

See ya'll after the election...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
Had enough folks - I'm unsubscribing - probably until after the New
Year.

To tell the truth, probably not even then - too much to do and I've
taken on a huge new professional responsibility which is also going to
take up a lot of time.

Y'all take care.

See 'ya around.

Good luck!

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:54:13 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Had enough folks - I'm unsubscribing - probably until after the New
Year.

To tell the truth, probably not even then - too much to do and I've
taken on a huge new professional responsibility which is also going to
take up a lot of time.

Y'all take care.

See 'ya around.

Tom has been named godfather to Bristol Palin's little bundle.

Give it up already Harry. Your political posts and purposeful
crossposting are BS.

Take your political crap to a NG or forum where you make an impact.
This NG has a couple dozen, if that, members and no one gives a crap
about your politican rants.

Tom is a smart, funny and knowlegable guy....your crap drove him off
(sorry to see you leave Tom).

Let's get back to boats and start acting like grown men.

See ya'll after the election...
 

JimH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:54:13 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Had enough folks - I'm unsubscribing - probably until after the New
Year.

To tell the truth, probably not even then - too much to do and I've
taken on a huge new professional responsibility which is also going to
take up a lot of time.

Y'all take care.

See 'ya around.
Tom has been named godfather to Bristol Palin's little bundle.

Give it up already Harry. Your political posts and purposeful
crossposting are BS.

Take your political crap to a NG or forum where you make an impact.
This NG has a couple dozen, if that, members and no one gives a crap
about your politican rants.

Tom is a smart, funny and knowlegable guy....your crap drove him off
(sorry to see you leave Tom).

Let's get back to boats and start acting like grown men.

I won't dispute that Tom knows something about boats, but I will dispute
that I drove him off. He was tossing insults with the best of him, and
apparently only got ****ed when I deigned to question his "superior"
knowledge in areas where it wasn't.

As I stated before, if this were a real boating newsgroup...

But it isn't. You know it and I know it. What it has become is a
dumpster for the likes of Reggie, Loogy, JustWait and the rest of the
non-boating schitts.

I'll be glad to take this newsgroup seriously when the schitts come out
of the closet, stop attacking those they don't like, and start posting
information about their boats and their boating knowledge instead of
about their golfing, guitars, breeder adult children, old cars, and
those days 30 years ago when they were in uniform. You know...anything
except boats.

But I won't hold my breath until that day arrives.

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 18:04:08 -0400, JimH wrote:

On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:54:13 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Had enough folks - I'm unsubscribing - probably until after the New
Year.

To tell the truth, probably not even then - too much to do and I've
taken on a huge new professional responsibility which is also going to
take up a lot of time.

Y'all take care.

See 'ya around.

Tom has been named godfather to Bristol Palin's little bundle.

Give it up already Harry. Your political posts and purposeful
crossposting are BS.

Take your political crap to a NG or forum where you make an impact.
This NG has a couple dozen, if that, members and no one gives a crap
about your politican rants.

Tom is a smart, funny and knowlegable guy....your crap drove him off
(sorry to see you leave Tom).

Let's get back to boats and start acting like grown men.

Maybe you should heed your own advice. And maybe you should throw some
apologies out for your actions since you fell in with the Harry camp.

It is nice to see you're seeing *some* light.

See ya'll after the election...
 

"hk" wrote in message
...


I won't dispute that Tom knows something about boats, but I will dispute
that I drove him off. He was tossing insults with the best of him, and
apparently only got ****ed when I deigned to question his "superior"
knowledge in areas where it wasn't.



I don't know Tom well, but I have met him a couple of times. One thing I
know for sure though .... Tom doesn't get "driven off" by anybody,
especially someone like you who thinks he is the de facto king of rec.boats.

But, Harry, you display the lowest form of hypocritical BS to be found here.
Tom agreed to mind the store at Chuck's Island for a while and simply
insisted that Chuck's forum rules be respected. Contrary to your claims in
rec.boats, you were the worst offender of the rules with snarky, poorly
veiled insults directed at others, in direct violation of Chuck's requests.
Tom had a level of control over things and your ego just couldn't deal with
that.

You became so frustrated, the "Brownie" comments and insults started.
Christ, anybody with a 5th grade education could follow this cute little
display. I suspect that part of your problem is dealing with the fact that
Tom's IQ is probably 30 or 40 points higher than yours, another fact that
your inflated ego just can't handle.

It's fine to disagree about transom heights. But it's wrong to insult, call
names and, when you get really, really frustrated simply employ your
childish "ESAD" comment. You really are a piece of work. Or sick.
Seriously.

Eisboch

See ya'll after the election...
 

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...

I won't dispute that Tom knows something about boats, but I will dispute
that I drove him off. He was tossing insults with the best of him, and
apparently only got ****ed when I deigned to question his "superior"
knowledge in areas where it wasn't.



I don't know Tom well, but I have met him a couple of times. One thing I
know for sure though .... Tom doesn't get "driven off" by anybody,
especially someone like you who thinks he is the de facto king of rec.boats.

But, Harry, you display the lowest form of hypocritical BS to be found here.
Tom agreed to mind the store at Chuck's Island for a while and simply
insisted that Chuck's forum rules be respected. Contrary to your claims in
rec.boats, you were the worst offender of the rules with snarky, poorly
veiled insults directed at others, in direct violation of Chuck's requests.
Tom had a level of control over things and your ego just couldn't deal with
that.

You became so frustrated, the "Brownie" comments and insults started.
Christ, anybody with a 5th grade education could follow this cute little
display. I suspect that part of your problem is dealing with the fact that
Tom's IQ is probably 30 or 40 points higher than yours, another fact that
your inflated ego just can't handle.

It's fine to disagree about transom heights. But it's wrong to insult, call
names and, when you get really, really frustrated simply employ your
childish "ESAD" comment. You really are a piece of work. Or sick.
Seriously.

Eisboch




Yawn. Tom had control over the kill switch, that's all. He may be the
worst moderator I have ever encountered. He handled Chuck's place like
Brownie handled the aftermath of Katrina.

Your buddy Tom spent about a year insulting my boat. He got a couple of
weeks of it back, and he folded his tent.

I don't know what Tom's IQ is, nor do I care. I have noticed though,
that when he is questioned, he gets mad.

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sep 7, 4:12*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Had enough folks - I'm unsubscribing - probably until after the New
Year.

To tell the truth, probably not even then - too much to do and I've
taken on a huge new professional responsibility which is also going to
take up a lot of time.

Y'all take care.

See 'ya around.

Sorry to see yo take off pal. I'd like to knwo a bit more about your
"new professional responsibility" though.

Later on, Tom.

See ya'll after the election...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...

I won't dispute that Tom knows something about boats, but I will dispute
that I drove him off. He was tossing insults with the best of him, and
apparently only got ****ed when I deigned to question his "superior"
knowledge in areas where it wasn't.



I don't know Tom well, but I have met him a couple of times. One thing
I know for sure though .... Tom doesn't get "driven off" by anybody,
especially someone like you who thinks he is the de facto king of
rec.boats.

But, Harry, you display the lowest form of hypocritical BS to be found
here. Tom agreed to mind the store at Chuck's Island for a while and
simply insisted that Chuck's forum rules be respected. Contrary to your
claims in rec.boats, you were the worst offender of the rules with
snarky, poorly veiled insults directed at others, in direct violation of
Chuck's requests. Tom had a level of control over things and your ego
just couldn't deal with that.

You became so frustrated, the "Brownie" comments and insults started.
Christ, anybody with a 5th grade education could follow this cute little
display. I suspect that part of your problem is dealing with the fact
that Tom's IQ is probably 30 or 40 points higher than yours, another fact
that your inflated ego just can't handle.

It's fine to disagree about transom heights. But it's wrong to insult,
call names and, when you get really, really frustrated simply employ your
childish "ESAD" comment. You really are a piece of work. Or sick.
Seriously.

Eisboch





Yawn. Tom had control over the kill switch, that's all. He may be the
worst moderator I have ever encountered. He handled Chuck's place like
Brownie handled the aftermath of Katrina.

Your buddy Tom spent about a year insulting my boat. He got a couple of
weeks of it back, and he folded his tent.

I don't know what Tom's IQ is, nor do I care. I have noticed though, that
when he is questioned, he gets mad.



Get help Harry. Seriously. Before you self-destruct.

Nobody with the level of education or experience that you claim to have
would write those paragraphs (above).

Eisboch

See ya'll after the election...
 

It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

See ya'll after the election...
 

The only thing that will help this ng is if harry leaves... period. Another
option is for *everyone* to filter him out. If you don't see his posts, you
can't respond to him... it's that easy. However, some people feel the need
to "defend themselves" and as such will not filter him, so the cycle
continues. I see none of his political garbage... until someone resonds to
him. That sucks.

Try it, you'll like it. harry is a sick individual, and will not, or cannot,
stop. He needs help.

--Mike

"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sep 7, 8:36*pm, jim wrote:
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

We can. It almost happened before when the ones of us left completely
ignored him. We could do it again but then he gets crazy and makes
some sock puppets or a thinly veiled troll having to do with boats.. I
say everyone should have one respons to anything he says, a dot and
the words screw off. No matter what he says... Shun anybody stupid
enough to engage him, and just let him go...

See ya'll after the election...
 

"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.



A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. I am willing to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.

My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. Hell, he has already acknowledged that.

Gene's algorithm obviously does not fix the problem. It is a great idea,
intended to eliminate OT, but it obviously has holes.

One of the historical issues is that "rec.boats" does not have a charter to
fall back upon as a reference for conformity of topic or conduct. It's the
original boating newsgroup and was started without benefit of a published
charter. There is an old "FAQ" list, but no official charter.

This is not to say that a charter guaranties civility or even helps, but
"rec.boats" lacks a reference for conduct.

The problem is not unique to rec.boats however. Virtually all of the
unmoderated NGs I've read suffer from the same problems prevalent here. It
seems like every one has it's own "Harry".

Eisboch

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 17:56:35 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 7, 8:36*pm, jim wrote:
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

We can. It almost happened before when the ones of us left completely
ignored him. We could do it again but then he gets crazy and makes
some sock puppets or a thinly veiled troll having to do with boats.. I
say everyone should have one respons to anything he says, a dot and
the words screw off. No matter what he says... Shun anybody stupid
enough to engage him, and just let him go...

Comments like that do not help Scott.

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:36:51 -0400, jim wrote:

It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

Send me a PM or an email.

See ya'll after the election...
 

wrote in message
...
On Sep 7, 8:36 pm, jim wrote:
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

We can. It almost happened before when the ones of us left completely
ignored him. We could do it again but then he gets crazy and makes
some sock puppets or a thinly veiled troll having to do with boats.. I
say everyone should have one respons to anything he says, a dot and
the words screw off. No matter what he says... Shun anybody stupid
enough to engage him, and just let him go...

-------------------------------------------------------------
I would suggest forgetting even the Chucky dots or *any* comment.
To use them acknowledges presence of the offending poster.

Eisboch

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sep 7, 9:13*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Sep 7, 8:36 pm, jim wrote:

It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

We can. It almost happened before when the ones of us left completely
ignored him. We could do it again but then he gets crazy and makes
some sock puppets or a thinly veiled troll having to do with boats.. I
say everyone should have one respons to anything he says, a dot and
the words screw off. No matter what he says... Shun anybody stupid
enough to engage him, and just let him go...

-------------------------------------------------------------
I would suggest forgetting even the Chucky dots or *any* comment.
To use them acknowledges presence of the offending poster.

Eisboch

Ok, but there might be some kind of block statement that we can post
to get his posts down, and let everyone know what the deal is...

See ya'll after the election...
 

Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.



A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. I am willing to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.

My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. Hell, he has already acknowledged that.
SNIP
Eisboch


I've had him filtered for a couple of weeks but I still see his crap in
90% of the posts here. We have to do something to get rid of him or
there will never be peace here.

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sep 7, 9:13*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Sep 7, 8:36 pm, jim wrote:

It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

We can. It almost happened before when the ones of us left completely
ignored him. We could do it again but then he gets crazy and makes
some sock puppets or a thinly veiled troll having to do with boats.. I
say everyone should have one respons to anything he says, a dot and
the words screw off. No matter what he says... Shun anybody stupid
enough to engage him, and just let him go...

-------------------------------------------------------------
I would suggest forgetting even the Chucky dots or *any* comment.
To use them acknowledges presence of the offending poster.

Eisboch

[The members of this news group have unanimously decided that this
poster is detrimental to the group in general. Therefore, this and all
future posts, questions, trolls, and sockpuppets will be ignored]

See ya'll after the election...
 

wrote in message
...
On Sep 7, 9:13 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Sep 7, 8:36 pm, jim wrote:

It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

We can. It almost happened before when the ones of us left completely
ignored him. We could do it again but then he gets crazy and makes
some sock puppets or a thinly veiled troll having to do with boats.. I
say everyone should have one respons to anything he says, a dot and
the words screw off. No matter what he says... Shun anybody stupid
enough to engage him, and just let him go...

-------------------------------------------------------------
I would suggest forgetting even the Chucky dots or *any* comment.
To use them acknowledges presence of the offending poster.

Eisboch

[The members of this news group have unanimously decided that this
poster is detrimental to the group in general. Therefore, this and all
future posts, questions, trolls, and sockpuppets will be ignored]

-----------------------------------------------------

"Persona non grata"

Eisboch

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sep 7, 9:38*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Sep 7, 9:13 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:





wrote in message

...
On Sep 7, 8:36 pm, jim wrote:

It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

We can. It almost happened before when the ones of us left completely
ignored him. We could do it again but then he gets crazy and makes
some sock puppets or a thinly veiled troll having to do with boats.. I
say everyone should have one respons to anything he says, a dot and
the words screw off. No matter what he says... Shun anybody stupid
enough to engage him, and just let him go...

-------------------------------------------------------------
I would suggest forgetting even the Chucky dots or *any* comment.
To use them acknowledges presence of the offending poster.

Eisboch

[The members of this news group have unanimously decided that this
poster is detrimental to the group in general. Therefore, this and all
future posts, questions, trolls, and sockpuppets will be ignored]

-----------------------------------------------------

"Persona non grata"

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

But I might spell it wrong;) But it's done, anyone else in?

See ya'll after the election...
 

Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.



A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. I am willing to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.

My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. Hell, he has already acknowledged that.

Gene's algorithm obviously does not fix the problem. It is a great idea,
intended to eliminate OT, but it obviously has holes.

One of the historical issues is that "rec.boats" does not have a charter to
fall back upon as a reference for conformity of topic or conduct. It's the
original boating newsgroup and was started without benefit of a published
charter. There is an old "FAQ" list, but no official charter.

This is not to say that a charter guaranties civility or even helps, but
"rec.boats" lacks a reference for conduct.

The problem is not unique to rec.boats however. Virtually all of the
unmoderated NGs I've read suffer from the same problems prevalent here. It
seems like every one has it's own "Harry".

Eisboch




This is really funny. As a boating newsgroup, this place is almost stone
dead. Yet I am the only one who seems to acknowledge that.

If you want a boating newsgroup (and I don't mean you personally), then
make it one.

If it isn't a boating newsgroup, and it isn't, then why whine about
off-topic posts, or even posters from outside the newsgroup?

Why aren't you whining about the non-boating posters? It's ok for them
to post whatever they please because...because why? Why do you tolerate
and encourage non-boating posters like Reggie, BAR, DK, Loogy, et al,
posters who are here only to insult other posters, and never really
discuss their own boats?

See ya'll after the election...
 

See ya'll after the election...
 

See ya'll after the election...
 

See ya'll after the election...
 

Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Sep 7, 9:13 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Sep 7, 8:36 pm, jim wrote:

It's so sad to see Tom leave.
There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.
A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.
Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.
We can. It almost happened before when the ones of us left completely
ignored him. We could do it again but then he gets crazy and makes
some sock puppets or a thinly veiled troll having to do with boats.. I
say everyone should have one respons to anything he says, a dot and
the words screw off. No matter what he says... Shun anybody stupid
enough to engage him, and just let him go...

-------------------------------------------------------------
I would suggest forgetting even the Chucky dots or *any* comment.
To use them acknowledges presence of the offending poster.

Eisboch

[The members of this news group have unanimously decided that this
poster is detrimental to the group in general. Therefore, this and all
future posts, questions, trolls, and sockpuppets will be ignored]

-----------------------------------------------------

"Persona non grata"

Eisboch




There's no question that JustWait sets the perfect intellectual tone for
this newsgroup.

See ya'll after the election...
 

But I might spell it wrong;) But it's done, anyone else in?

I just have him filtered... it's easier. I don't understand why everyone
else doesn't do the same. Even when you respond with your disclaimer, harry
*knows* he's getting attention. That's the problem... he thrives on it
postitive or negative.

--Mike

wrote in message
...
On Sep 7, 9:38 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Sep 7, 9:13 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:





wrote in message

...
On Sep 7, 8:36 pm, jim wrote:

It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could
conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

We can. It almost happened before when the ones of us left completely
ignored him. We could do it again but then he gets crazy and makes
some sock puppets or a thinly veiled troll having to do with boats.. I
say everyone should have one respons to anything he says, a dot and
the words screw off. No matter what he says... Shun anybody stupid
enough to engage him, and just let him go...

-------------------------------------------------------------
I would suggest forgetting even the Chucky dots or *any* comment.
To use them acknowledges presence of the offending poster.

Eisboch

[The members of this news group have unanimously decided that this
poster is detrimental to the group in general. Therefore, this and all
future posts, questions, trolls, and sockpuppets will be ignored]

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"Persona non grata"

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But I might spell it wrong;) But it's done, anyone else in?

See ya'll after the election...
 

"jim" wrote in message
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It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

Start small...with yourself.

See ya'll after the election...
 

Don White wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
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It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

Start small...with yourself.




Bingo. Isn't it amazing how the Seven Little Schitts think themselves
blameless?

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sep 7, 8:21*pm, jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
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It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. *I am willing to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.

My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. * Hell, he has already acknowledged that.
SNIP
Eisboch

I've had him filtered for a couple of weeks but I still see his crap in
90% of the posts here. We have to do something to get rid of him or
there will never be peace here.

Well, one thing you can do is to remember to remove an offenders post
from your reply, then all that people will see is your post.

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sep 7, 10:41*pm, Tim wrote:
On Sep 7, 8:21*pm, jim wrote:



Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. *I am willing to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.

My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. * Hell, he has already acknowledged that.
SNIP
Eisboch

I've had him filtered for a couple of weeks but I still see his crap in
90% of the posts here. We have to do something to get rid of him or
there will never be peace here.

Well, one thing you can do is to remember to remove an offenders post
from your reply, then all that people will see is your post.


Actually, the thing to do is to ignore the offender. If temptation to
flame still exists, then get and/or set up filters

Or that's how I see it

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:10:55 -0700, Mike wrote:

I just have him filtered... it's easier. I don't understand why everyone
else doesn't do the same.

Because they can't. They need Harry. Look around, Harry isn't the
problem. He *can* be filtered. His cross-posting threads *can* be
filtered, but then, what will all the fish do? For a large percentage
here, this isn't rec.boats it's rec.harry.

See ya'll after the election...
 

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On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:10:55 -0700, Mike wrote:

I just have him filtered... it's easier. I don't understand why everyone
else doesn't do the same.

Because they can't. They need Harry. Look around, Harry isn't the
problem. He *can* be filtered. His cross-posting threads *can* be
filtered, but then, what will all the fish do? For a large percentage
here, this isn't rec.boats it's rec.harry.

That's exactly what harry wants. Ignore him, and it will stop... simple as
that. There's no need to "defend yourself" from him. harry knows nothing
about any of us. Anything he says is pure fabrication, surely the
intelligent here must realize that!

--Mike

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 21:03:42 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"jim" wrote in message
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It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.



A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. I am willing to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.

My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. Hell, he has already acknowledged that.

Gene's algorithm obviously does not fix the problem. It is a great idea,
intended to eliminate OT, but it obviously has holes.

One of the historical issues is that "rec.boats" does not have a charter to
fall back upon as a reference for conformity of topic or conduct. It's the
original boating newsgroup and was started without benefit of a published
charter. There is an old "FAQ" list, but no official charter.

This is not to say that a charter guaranties civility or even helps, but
"rec.boats" lacks a reference for conduct.

The problem is not unique to rec.boats however. Virtually all of the
unmoderated NGs I've read suffer from the same problems prevalent here. It
seems like every one has it's own "Harry".

Eisboch


And keep in mind that what Harry is doing here, with his crossposting, he
is also doing in all those other groups.

It is not that hard to filter him and ignore him. If you, or anyone, feel
they *must* get into a ****ing contest with Harry, it's always possible to
meet him at one of his other groups.

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 19:10:55 -0700, "Mike" wrote:

But I might spell it wrong;) But it's done, anyone else in?

I just have him filtered... it's easier. I don't understand why everyone
else doesn't do the same. Even when you respond with your disclaimer, harry
*knows* he's getting attention. That's the problem... he thrives on it
postitive or negative.

--Mike

wrote in message
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On Sep 7, 9:38 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Sep 7, 9:13 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:





wrote in message

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On Sep 7, 8:36 pm, jim wrote:

It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could
conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

We can. It almost happened before when the ones of us left completely
ignored him. We could do it again but then he gets crazy and makes
some sock puppets or a thinly veiled troll having to do with boats.. I
say everyone should have one respons to anything he says, a dot and
the words screw off. No matter what he says... Shun anybody stupid
enough to engage him, and just let him go...

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I would suggest forgetting even the Chucky dots or *any* comment.
To use them acknowledges presence of the offending poster.

Eisboch

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poster is detrimental to the group in general. Therefore, this and all
future posts, questions, trolls, and sockpuppets will be ignored]

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"Persona non grata"

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But I might spell it wrong;) But it's done, anyone else in?


Agreed. Hopefully, Gene will see the light and filter the problem in his
'rec.boats', i.e., Harry Krause.

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:41:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sep 7, 8:21*pm, jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. *I am willing to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.

My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. * Hell, he has already acknowledged that.
SNIP
Eisboch

I've had him filtered for a couple of weeks but I still see his crap in
90% of the posts here. We have to do something to get rid of him or
there will never be peace here.

Well, one thing you can do is to remember to remove an offenders post
from your reply, then all that people will see is your post.

Yay!

Tim, are you willing to stop your discussions with Harry?

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 21:21:21 -0400, jim wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.



A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. I am willing to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.

My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. Hell, he has already acknowledged that.
SNIP
Eisboch


I've had him filtered for a couple of weeks but I still see his crap in
90% of the posts here. We have to do something to get rid of him or
there will never be peace here.

You could get a powerful start by taking away Scotty's computer. He's
incapable of stifling himself, and Harry LOVES the attention. He's a
troll attractant if ever there was one.