See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 18:22:27 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 7, 9:13*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Sep 7, 8:36 pm, jim wrote:

It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

We can. It almost happened before when the ones of us left completely
ignored him. We could do it again but then he gets crazy and makes
some sock puppets or a thinly veiled troll having to do with boats.. I
say everyone should have one respons to anything he says, a dot and
the words screw off. No matter what he says... Shun anybody stupid
enough to engage him, and just let him go...

-------------------------------------------------------------
I would suggest forgetting even the Chucky dots or *any* comment.
To use them acknowledges presence of the offending poster.

Eisboch

[The members of this news group have unanimously decided that this
poster is detrimental to the group in general. Therefore, this and all
future posts, questions, trolls, and sockpuppets will be ignored]

That will attract REAL trolls, nitwit. Wait til the floods start. Ask
anyone who was a regular in alt.sailing.asa before it was strangled to
death by the Flonkers and Meowers.

Don't think for a second that it can't happen here. Their favorite
cause is stomping on self-appointed net nannys. They take no
prisoners.

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 22:11:20 -0700, "Mike" wrote:


wrote in message
et...
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:10:55 -0700, Mike wrote:

I just have him filtered... it's easier. I don't understand why everyone
else doesn't do the same.

Because they can't. They need Harry. Look around, Harry isn't the
problem. He *can* be filtered. His cross-posting threads *can* be
filtered, but then, what will all the fish do? For a large percentage
here, this isn't rec.boats it's rec.harry.

That's exactly what harry wants. Ignore him, and it will stop... simple as
that. There's no need to "defend yourself" from him. harry knows nothing
about any of us. Anything he says is pure fabrication, surely the
intelligent here must realize that!

--Mike


The intelligent realize that, but no one here meets that criterium.
And then there's Scotty @ SmallNutz.com, who really drags the curve
down!

See ya'll after the election...
 

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sep 8, 5:48*am, John H wrote:
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:41:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 7, 8:21*pm, jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. *I am willing to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.

My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. * Hell, he has already acknowledged that.
SNIP
Eisboch

I've had him filtered for a couple of weeks but I still see his crap in
90% of the posts here. We have to do something to get rid of him or
there will never be peace here.

Well, one thing you can do is to remember to remove an offenders post
from your reply, then all that people will see is your post.

Yay!

Tim, are you willing to stop your discussions with Harry?

I'd rather not, but on political subjects?

Sure!

See ya'll after the election...
 

Let's get back to boats and start acting like grown men.


Do you mean like calling people names, insulting people and saying
untrue, mean and nasty things about their families?
That's what you and your scorned lover Harry do.

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sep 7, 6:13*pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 17:54:13 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Had enough folks - I'm unsubscribing - probably until after the New
Year.

To tell the truth, probably not even then - too much to do and I've
taken on a huge new professional responsibility which is also going to
take up a lot of time.

Y'all take care.

See 'ya around.
Tom has been named godfather to Bristol Palin's little bundle.

Give it up already Harry. *Your political posts and purposeful
crossposting are BS. *

Take your political crap to a NG or forum where you make an impact.
This NG has a couple dozen, if that, members and no one gives a crap
about your politican rants.

Tom is a smart, funny and knowlegable guy....your crap drove him off
(sorry to see you leave Tom).

Let's get back to boats and start acting like grown men.

I won't dispute that Tom knows something about boats, but I will dispute
that I drove him off. He was tossing insults with the best of him, and
apparently only got ****ed when I deigned to question his "superior"
knowledge in areas where it wasn't.

As I stated before, if this were a real boating newsgroup...

But it isn't. You know it and I know it. What it has become is a
dumpster for the likes of Reggie, Loogy, JustWait and the rest of the
non-boating schitts.

Non boating? What do you know about how much I boat, liar? The only
reason this place is a "dumpster" is because of YOU. You are a low
life pig with nothing of substance except childish name calling and
third grade insults.

I'll be glad to take this newsgroup seriously when the schitts come out
of the closet, stop attacking those they don't like, and start posting
information about their boats and their boating knowledge instead of
about their golfing, guitars, breeder adult children, old cars, and
those days 30 years ago when they were in uniform. You know...anything
except boats.

Why must you need to know all about someone's boat and boating
knowledge? Do you feel the need to talk about nothing but boats all of
the time? Must be hell to be so shallow.

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sep 7, 6:50*pm, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...

I won't dispute that Tom knows something about boats, but I will dispute
that I drove him off. He was tossing insults with the best of him, and
apparently only got ****ed when I deigned to question his "superior"
knowledge in areas where it wasn't.

I don't know Tom well, but I have met him a couple of times. * One thing I
know for sure though .... Tom doesn't get "driven off" by anybody,
especially someone like you who thinks he is the de facto king of rec.boats.

But, Harry, you display the lowest form of hypocritical BS to be found here.
Tom agreed to mind the store at Chuck's Island for a while and simply
insisted that Chuck's forum rules be respected. *Contrary to your claims in
rec.boats, *you were the worst offender of the rules with snarky, poorly
veiled insults directed at others, in direct violation of Chuck's requests.
Tom had a level of control over things and your ego just couldn't deal with
that.

You became so frustrated, the "Brownie" comments and insults started.
Christ, anybody with a 5th grade education could follow this cute little
display. *I suspect that part of your problem is dealing with the fact that
Tom's IQ is probably 30 or 40 points higher than yours, another fact that
your inflated ego just can't handle.

It's fine to disagree about transom heights. *But it's wrong to insult, call
names and, when you get really, really frustrated simply employ your
childish "ESAD" *comment. * *You really are a piece of work. * Or sick.
Seriously.

Eisboch

Yawn. Tom had control over the kill switch, that's all. He may be the
worst moderator I have ever encountered. He handled Chuck's place like
Brownie handled the aftermath of Katrina.

Your buddy Tom spent about a year insulting my boat. He got a couple of
weeks of it back, and he folded his tent.

I don't know what Tom's IQ is, nor do I care. I have noticed though,
that when he is questioned, he gets mad.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

All this because he wouldn't put up with your childish bull****.

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 05:23:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sep 8, 5:48*am, John H wrote:
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:41:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 7, 8:21*pm, jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. *I am willing to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.

My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. * Hell, he has already acknowledged that.
SNIP
Eisboch

I've had him filtered for a couple of weeks but I still see his crap in
90% of the posts here. We have to do something to get rid of him or
there will never be peace here.

Well, one thing you can do is to remember to remove an offenders post
from your reply, then all that people will see is your post.

Yay!

Tim, are you willing to stop your discussions with Harry?

I'd rather not, but on political subjects?

Sure!

Ignoring means ignoring. But do your own thing.

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 05:28:13 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Loogy, how about engaging Harry at sci.military.naval, or one of his other
haunts.

Your continuous responding to his trolls over here sure doesn't help
anything.

See ya'll after the election...
 

Tim wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:48 am, John H wrote:
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:41:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 7, 8:21 pm, jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.
There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.
A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.
Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.
A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. I am willing to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.
My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. Hell, he has already acknowledged that.
SNIP
Eisboch
I've had him filtered for a couple of weeks but I still see his crap in
90% of the posts here. We have to do something to get rid of him or
there will never be peace here.
Well, one thing you can do is to remember to remove an offenders post
from your reply, then all that people will see is your post.

Yay!

Tim, are you willing to stop your discussions with Harry?

I'd rather not, but on political subjects?

Sure!


Uh oh. That won't make Major Major Major Herring happy. I'm sure you'll
hear from him. You know how important it is to him for everyone to jump
when he issues orders.

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 05:29:54 -0700 (PDT), wrote:



All this because he wouldn't put up with your childish bull****.

Loogy, his 'childish bull****' is sucking you in.

Please.

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sep 8, 7:33*am, John H wrote:
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 05:23:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:48*am, John H wrote:
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:41:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 7, 8:21*pm, jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. *I am willing to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.

My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. * Hell, he has already acknowledged that.
SNIP
Eisboch

I've had him filtered for a couple of weeks but I still see his crap in
90% of the posts here. We have to do something to get rid of him or
there will never be peace here.

Well, one thing you can do is to remember to remove an offenders post
from your reply, then all that people will see is your post.

Yay!

Tim, are you willing to stop your discussions with Harry?

I'd rather not, but on political subjects?

Sure!

Ignoring means ignoring. But do your own thing.

Not necessairily. If it's boating related, why not talk to him in a
boating news group.
anything else?
ignore...

See ya'll after the election...
 

Tim wrote:
On Sep 8, 7:33 am, John H wrote:
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 05:23:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:48 am, John H wrote:
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:41:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 7, 8:21 pm, jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.
There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.
A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.
Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.
A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. I am willing to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.
My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. Hell, he has already acknowledged that.
SNIP
Eisboch
I've had him filtered for a couple of weeks but I still see his crap in
90% of the posts here. We have to do something to get rid of him or
there will never be peace here.
Well, one thing you can do is to remember to remove an offenders post
from your reply, then all that people will see is your post.
Yay!
Tim, are you willing to stop your discussions with Harry?
I'd rather not, but on political subjects?
Sure!
Ignoring means ignoring. But do your own thing.

Not necessairily. If it's boating related, why not talk to him in a
boating news group.
anything else?
ignore...


What you have to understand here, Tim, is that Herring thinks he is a
knight on a holy crusade. What he actually is is queen of the BORG,
trying to assimilate everyone by forcing them to conform to his idea of
what he thinks is right. Of course, *he* doesn't conform to his
standards, either.

:)

See ya'll after the election...
 

wrote in message
...
All this because he wouldn't put up with your childish bull****.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I doubt one person could run Tom out of anywhere.
My guess is that he can only tolerate so much crap and with the drone unit
and various associates filling the newsgroup on an hourly basis... it just
didn't make sense to waste his time here...especially if he has an
opportunity for gainful employment.

See ya'll after the election...
 

wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:10:55 -0700, Mike wrote:

I just have him filtered... it's easier. I don't understand why everyone
else doesn't do the same.

Because they can't. They need Harry. Look around, Harry isn't the
problem. He *can* be filtered. His cross-posting threads *can* be
filtered, but then, what will all the fish do? For a large percentage
here, this isn't rec.boats it's rec.harry.

Bingo..... and the award goes to.....Mr Thunder

See ya'll after the election...
 

wrote in message
...

All this because he wouldn't put up with your childish bull****.

----------------------------------

Loogy, an attempt is being made to clean up this NG. Doing so requires
restraint by all to stop the insults, attacks and most importantly, instant,
knee-jerk responses to those that have contributed to the mess. Doing so
only perpetuates the crap.

Please join in the effort.

Eisboch

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Sep 8, 8:49*am, Tim wrote:
On Sep 8, 7:33*am, John H wrote:





On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 05:23:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:48*am, John H wrote:
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:41:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 7, 8:21*pm, jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. *I am willing to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.

My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. * Hell, he has already acknowledged that.
SNIP
Eisboch

I've had him filtered for a couple of weeks but I still see his crap in
90% of the posts here. We have to do something to get rid of him or
there will never be peace here.

Well, one thing you can do is to remember to remove an offenders post
from your reply, then all that people will see is your post.

Yay!

Tim, are you willing to stop your discussions with Harry?

I'd rather not, but on political subjects?

Sure!

Ignoring means ignoring. But do your own thing.

Not necessairily. If it's boating related, why not talk to him in a
boating news group.
anything else?
ignore...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Because harry has proven over the years that when he is ignored, he
will mix a little boating in with thinly veiled insults and shots just
to get things stirred up again. You might not have been here long
enough, but that is a definite pattern, look what he did to chuckies
place.. Trolling with etec stories, oversize pictures, and other
seemingly "boat" related posts that were actually targeted trolls to
Reggie, John, and Tom... Harry and salty need to be completely
ignored.

Ask Eisboch. When Chuckies place got started many of us left here
completely ignored harry, things went well for a while. Harry went
through his series of moves. Thunder posting, vulgarity, and
eventually found a subject or two that Dick would respond to and
sucked him back in, despite our pleas to him. He finally came to his
senses when he realized that harry was just shooting ducks and hoping
one would stick.. It is all a ruse to get someone sucked in so he can
start up again...

If you want to try to play his game, you can.. But there is nothing
there for you or anyone here that you can't get somewhere else... He
has one purpose, even with "Boating" posts, if you read between the
lines to the not so thinly veiled trolls....

See ya'll after the election...
 

Don White wrote:
wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:10:55 -0700, Mike wrote:

I just have him filtered... it's easier. I don't understand why everyone
else doesn't do the same.
Because they can't. They need Harry. Look around, Harry isn't the
problem. He *can* be filtered. His cross-posting threads *can* be
filtered, but then, what will all the fish do? For a large percentage
here, this isn't rec.boats it's rec.harry.

Bingo..... and the award goes to.....Mr Thunder




Look at it this way...if it weren't for me, rec.boats would be nothing
but endless drooling about grandchildren, golf, travel trailers,
guitars, cholesterol-laden recipes, the good old days in uniform, and
watching JustWaitaLoogy ejaculate.

:)

See ya'll after the election...
 

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:41:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sep 7, 8:21 pm, jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could
conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it
via
email.

A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including
me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. I am willing to
try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.

My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to
insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. Hell, he has already acknowledged
that.
SNIP
Eisboch

I've had him filtered for a couple of weeks but I still see his crap in
90% of the posts here. We have to do something to get rid of him or
there will never be peace here.

Well, one thing you can do is to remember to remove an offenders post
from your reply, then all that people will see is your post.

Yay!

Tim, are you willing to stop your discussions with Harry?

This is too much. It's always the other guy. Even Waylon couldn't count up
the number of posts you've directed to Harry... or talked about him and yet
you pick on Tim.
People...this is why we go in circles here. The worst offenders feel they
are justified in their behaviour and that others should smarten up.

See ya'll after the election...
 

"hk" wrote in message
...
Tim wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:48 am, John H wrote:
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:41:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Sep 7, 8:21 pm, jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.
There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.
A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.
Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could
conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it
via
email.
A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including
me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. I am willing
to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.
My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to
insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. Hell, he has already acknowledged
that.
SNIP
Eisboch
I've had him filtered for a couple of weeks but I still see his crap
in
90% of the posts here. We have to do something to get rid of him or
there will never be peace here.
Well, one thing you can do is to remember to remove an offenders post
from your reply, then all that people will see is your post.

Yay!

Tim, are you willing to stop your discussions with Harry?

I'd rather not, but on political subjects?

Sure!


Uh oh. That won't make Major Major Major Herring happy. I'm sure you'll
hear from him. You know how important it is to him for everyone to jump
when he issues orders.


Especially now that he's been promoted to Lt Colonel.
What rank did Marlon Brando hold in ''Apocalypse Now'....mmmmmmmm?

See ya'll after the election...
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

Start small...with yourself.


Bingo. Isn't it amazing how the Seven Little Schitts think themselves
blameless?


They take their lead from Colonel Kurtz (our own renegade army officer)

See ya'll after the election...
 

See ya'll after the election...
 

"John H" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 05:28:13 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Loogy, how about engaging Harry at sci.military.naval, or one of his other
haunts.

Your continuous responding to his trolls over here sure doesn't help
anything.



Maybe some time in the stockade, brig or whatever will help your men
straighten out and fly right.

See ya'll after the election...
 

Tim wrote:

I've had him filtered for a couple of weeks but I still see his crap in
90% of the posts here. We have to do something to get rid of him or
there will never be peace here.

Well, one thing you can do is to remember to remove an offenders post
from your reply, then all that people will see is your post.

Exactly

See ya'll after the election...
 

Don White wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Tim wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:48 am, John H wrote:
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:41:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Sep 7, 8:21 pm, jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.
There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.
A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.
Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could
conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it
via
email.
A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including
me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. I am willing
to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.
My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to
insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. Hell, he has already acknowledged
that.
SNIP
Eisboch
I've had him filtered for a couple of weeks but I still see his crap
in
90% of the posts here. We have to do something to get rid of him or
there will never be peace here.
Well, one thing you can do is to remember to remove an offenders post
from your reply, then all that people will see is your post.

Yay!

Tim, are you willing to stop your discussions with Harry?
I'd rather not, but on political subjects?

Sure!

Uh oh. That won't make Major Major Major Herring happy. I'm sure you'll
hear from him. You know how important it is to him for everyone to jump
when he issues orders.


Especially now that he's been promoted to Lt Colonel.
What rank did Marlon Brando hold in ''Apocalypse Now'....mmmmmmmm?




Misguided as he was, Colonel Kurtz was capable of abstract, even
philosophical thinking. Way too heavy a role for someone like Herring.

See ya'll after the election...
 

Don White wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Tim wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:48 am, John H wrote:
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:41:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Sep 7, 8:21 pm, jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.
There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.
A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.
Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could
conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it
via
email.
A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including
me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. I am willing
to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.
My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to
insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. Hell, he has already acknowledged
that.
SNIP
Eisboch
I've had him filtered for a couple of weeks but I still see his crap
in
90% of the posts here. We have to do something to get rid of him or
there will never be peace here.
Well, one thing you can do is to remember to remove an offenders post
from your reply, then all that people will see is your post.

Yay!

Tim, are you willing to stop your discussions with Harry?
I'd rather not, but on political subjects?

Sure!

Uh oh. That won't make Major Major Major Herring happy. I'm sure you'll
hear from him. You know how important it is to him for everyone to jump
when he issues orders.


Especially now that he's been promoted to Lt Colonel.
What rank did Marlon Brando hold in ''Apocalypse Now'....mmmmmmmm?


You aren't helping.................PLONK

See ya'll after the election...
 

"jim" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:


You aren't helping.................PLONK


Unfortunately, just did the same thing a half hour ago.
The only way this will work is to remove all traces.

Eisboch

See ya'll after the election...
 

On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 05:49:05 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Sep 8, 7:33*am, John H wrote:
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 05:23:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 8, 5:48*am, John H wrote:
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:41:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Sep 7, 8:21*pm, jim wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. *I am willing to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.

My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. * Hell, he has already acknowledged that.
SNIP
Eisboch

I've had him filtered for a couple of weeks but I still see his crap in
90% of the posts here. We have to do something to get rid of him or
there will never be peace here.

Well, one thing you can do is to remember to remove an offenders post
from your reply, then all that people will see is your post.

Yay!

Tim, are you willing to stop your discussions with Harry?

I'd rather not, but on political subjects?

Sure!

Ignoring means ignoring. But do your own thing.

Not necessairily. If it's boating related, why not talk to him in a
boating news group.
anything else?
ignore...

Do your thing, Tim.

Remember, it's been tried by many others.

See ya'll after the election...
 

Mike wrote:
The only thing that will help this ng is if harry leaves... period. Another
option is for *everyone* to filter him out. If you don't see his posts, you
can't respond to him... it's that easy. However, some people feel the need
to "defend themselves" and as such will not filter him, so the cycle
continues. I see none of his political garbage... until someone resonds to
him. That sucks.

Try it, you'll like it. harry is a sick individual, and will not, or cannot,
stop. He needs help.

--Mike

I don't see his posts, just the replies. You are right, there are very
few who care about what he has to say. They just have to ignore him and
he will go away or simply talk to himself.

See ya'll after the election...
 

Eisboch wrote:
"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.



A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. I am willing to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.

My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. Hell, he has already acknowledged that.

Gene's algorithm obviously does not fix the problem. It is a great idea,
intended to eliminate OT, but it obviously has holes.

One of the historical issues is that "rec.boats" does not have a charter to
fall back upon as a reference for conformity of topic or conduct. It's the
original boating newsgroup and was started without benefit of a published
charter. There is an old "FAQ" list, but no official charter.

This is not to say that a charter guaranties civility or even helps, but
"rec.boats" lacks a reference for conduct.

The problem is not unique to rec.boats however. Virtually all of the
unmoderated NGs I've read suffer from the same problems prevalent here. It
seems like every one has it's own "Harry".

Eisboch



WAFA doesn't post through Gene's server (see the headers). It would
filter him into oblivion...

See ya'll after the election...
 

See ya'll after the election...
 

John H wrote:
On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 19:10:55 -0700, "Mike" wrote:

But I might spell it wrong;) But it's done, anyone else in?
I just have him filtered... it's easier. I don't understand why everyone
else doesn't do the same. Even when you respond with your disclaimer, harry
*knows* he's getting attention. That's the problem... he thrives on it
postitive or negative.

--Mike

wrote in message
...
On Sep 7, 9:38 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Sep 7, 9:13 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:





wrote in message
...
On Sep 7, 8:36 pm, jim wrote:
It's so sad to see Tom leave.
There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.
A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.
Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could
conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.
We can. It almost happened before when the ones of us left completely
ignored him. We could do it again but then he gets crazy and makes
some sock puppets or a thinly veiled troll having to do with boats.. I
say everyone should have one respons to anything he says, a dot and
the words screw off. No matter what he says... Shun anybody stupid
enough to engage him, and just let him go...
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I would suggest forgetting even the Chucky dots or *any* comment.
To use them acknowledges presence of the offending poster.
Eisboch
[The members of this news group have unanimously decided that this
poster is detrimental to the group in general. Therefore, this and all
future posts, questions, trolls, and sockpuppets will be ignored]

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"Persona non grata"

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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But I might spell it wrong;) But it's done, anyone else in?


Agreed. Hopefully, Gene will see the light and filter the problem in his
'rec.boats', i.e., Harry Krause.

WAFA doesn't use that server.

See ya'll after the election...
 

John H wrote:
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 05:29:54 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


All this because he wouldn't put up with your childish bull****.

Loogy, his 'childish bull****' is sucking you in.

Please.

Agreed.