On Sep 8, 11:20*am, "Mike" wrote:
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Loogie, for **** sake.. we know he is a liar, we know he is a raped
little bitch, but please, we don't need to keep hearing about it. Many
of us have agreed to completely ignore him, and not quote him either,
try joining the fight, from our side...

It looks like the only way to do this is to filter loogy as well.

--Mike

Go for it.

On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 08:20:17 -0700, "Mike" wrote:


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Loogie, for **** sake.. we know he is a liar, we know he is a raped
little bitch, but please, we don't need to keep hearing about it. Many
of us have agreed to completely ignore him, and not quote him either,
try joining the fight, from our side...

It looks like the only way to do this is to filter loogy as well.

--Mike


Methinks you may be correct.

(Wayne.B)wrote
We eagerly await the pictures so we can properly critique it. I ran
across this one in Crisfield, MD last September and thought it might be
something like yours:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1724/dscn1373ui0.jpg

Looks alot like the setup I had on my old crab boat, Pot hauler and all,
Also very effective for single handling, push the stick forward turn to
port, pull back to go starboard.
Mine had wet exhaust though, my dockmate had a drystacked workboat with
a 455 in it, and to keep the water out would stick old soup cans on the
stacks. One morning as I was crossing his boat to get to mine he hit the
starter button forgetting to uncap the exhaust,and they flew off with
one hitting me square in the head, *&^% that hurt!
Always watched out for soup cans and drystacked boats after that. UD

UglyDan®©™ wrote:
(Wayne.B)wrote
We eagerly await the pictures so we can properly critique it. I ran
across this one in Crisfield, MD last September and thought it might be
something like yours:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1724/dscn1373ui0.jpg

Looks alot like the setup I had on my old crab boat, Pot hauler and all,
Also very effective for single handling, push the stick forward turn to
port, pull back to go starboard.
Mine had wet exhaust though, my dockmate had a drystacked workboat with
a 455 in it, and to keep the water out would stick old soup cans on the
stacks. One morning as I was crossing his boat to get to mine he hit the
starter button forgetting to uncap the exhaust,and they flew off with
one hitting me square in the head, *&^% that hurt!
Always watched out for soup cans and drystacked boats after that. UD






I've seen a few new boats around with a second steering station and the
wheel for that attached to the bulkhead, so that if you turned the wheel
towards the bow, the boat would turn towards port, and towards the
stern, the boat would turn towards starboard. It used to be that way on
many of the older inboard boats of the 1950s. It sure saves space in the
cockpit on smaller boats.

On Mon, 8 Sep 2008 09:11:50 -0700, (UglyDan®©™)
wrote:

(Wayne.B)wrote
We eagerly await the pictures so we can properly critique it. I ran
across this one in Crisfield, MD last September and thought it might be
something like yours:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/1724/dscn1373ui0.jpg

Looks alot like the setup I had on my old crab boat, Pot hauler and all,
Also very effective for single handling, push the stick forward turn to
port, pull back to go starboard.
Mine had wet exhaust though, my dockmate had a drystacked workboat with
a 455 in it, and to keep the water out would stick old soup cans on the
stacks. One morning as I was crossing his boat to get to mine he hit the
starter button forgetting to uncap the exhaust,and they flew off with
one hitting me square in the head, *&^% that hurt!
Always watched out for soup cans and drystacked boats after that. UD

All the construction equipment has attached caps that rotate open
under exhaust pressure. Those dealers have parts departments.

Casady

On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:15:49 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

So, maybe the thing to do is to get another Navigator. The one I had was a
"4800 Classic" which is 52'8" LOA. It was a bit too big to easily
single-hand, which is the main reason we sold it. (Plus, at the time, we
also had the 36 GB).

To me one of the key things for easy single handing is a walk around
deck, like a classic Grand Banks. This is particularly valuable when
docking between pilings or between finger piers when you need to get
lines down on both sides as you come in. Easy access from the helm
station to both sides of the boat is important also.

There are other little tricks like leaving your dock lines behind at
the slip when you go out, preferably on raised poles with a hook for
the line. A good anchor windlass with multiple control points is also
valuable.

On our home dock I left the face pilings extra high, about 12 feet
above sea level. This was primarily so the boat could not ride over
the top in a storm surge but it also makes it easy to snag a line
around a piling from the flybridge deck. Typically I will lead a
spring line up to the flybridge in advance if I'm going out by myself.
I've also adopted a new docking approach recently when coming into a
face dock: I slowly approach the dock at an angle, bow first; stop
the boat; secure a bow line, and then crank the stern in with the
engines. At home I have a permanent bow line I can grab with a boat
hook. At a marina with pilings I will loop a bow line around a piling
with a boat hook, or pass a line down to a dockhand on a floating
dock. Once the bow is secure I can crank the stern in parallel using
the engines and rudders. Using that technique I can dock between two
other boats with very little room to spare and with good control.
Everyone always asks if I have thrusters.

Regarding your boat quest, I'd recommend making up a priority matrix
with things like cruising speed, number of heads/staterooms, fuel
range, fuel economy, single vs twins, galley location, flybridge vs
express, offshore vs coastal, stabilizers, etc. Everything is a
tradeoff so it's important to understand the things that are most
important to you. It's a buyers market right now.

On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 20:34:15 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Sep 7, 7:05*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 19:59:15 -0400, John H wrote:
I have a secondary control station mounted towards the stern.

Her name is Sandy.

Isn't that called a command bridge ?

Or gives new meaning to "rear admiral"

Oh, my "admiral" is very forward about it.

(Richard*Casady)wrote
All the construction equipment has attached caps that rotate open under
exhaust pressure. Those dealers have parts departments.
Casady

True, but soup cans are cheaper, Most of the watermen I knew didn't have
alot of $$ to spare on flappers, or we're just plain cheap. As a matter
of fact the same dockmate I mentioned pulled that 455 out of an old
Pontiac to use in his boat. I made the keel coolers for him.
Sometimes in order to make a living, and put food on the table you have
to be creative. UD

On Sep 8, 4:17*pm, (UglyDan®©™) wrote:
*(Richard*Casady)wrote
All the construction equipment has attached caps that rotate open under
exhaust pressure. Those dealers have parts departments.
Casady *

True, but soup cans are cheaper, Most of the watermen I knew didn't have
alot of $$ to spare on flappers, or we're just plain cheap. As a matter
of fact the same dockmate I mentioned pulled that 455 out of an old
Pontiac to use in his boat. I made the keel coolers for him.
Sometimes in order to make a living, and put food on the table you have
to be creative. UD

I know exactly what you mean! I grew up on a farm and when something
broke, you didn't take it to the shop, you fixed it. I sure learned
alot that way, though. It amazes me when I see people my age and
younger that don't know how to do anything for themselves.

On Sep 8, 4:35*pm, wrote:
On Sep 8, 4:17*pm, (UglyDan®©™) wrote:

*(Richard*Casady)wrote
All the construction equipment has attached caps that rotate open under
exhaust pressure. Those dealers have parts departments.
Casady *

True, but soup cans are cheaper, Most of the watermen I knew didn't have
alot of $$ to spare on flappers, or we're just plain cheap. As a matter
of fact the same dockmate I mentioned pulled that 455 out of an old
Pontiac to use in his boat. I made the keel coolers for him.
Sometimes in order to make a living, and put food on the table you have
to be creative. UD

I know exactly what you mean! I grew up on a farm and when something
broke, you didn't take it to the shop, you fixed it. I sure learned
alot that way, though. It amazes me when I see people my age and
younger that don't know how to do anything for themselves.

Don't feel sorry for them, they can always go teach at university