Steve wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:04:30 -0400, TJ wrote:

Obama's followers are fond of quoting a statistic that McCain has voted
with George Bush over 90% of the time. The statistic varies with the one
doing the quoting, but it's never 100%. That means that, given
sufficient reason, McCain will go against his party leaders. His running
mate has also demonstrated a willingness to go against the party.

That is a quality I look for in an office seeker. I don't want someone
whose strings are pulled by the party. I want someone who is willing to
do what he or she thinks is right, no matter which side favors it. I
want somebody with some *guts.*

All I've heard about Obama's voting record is that it's the most liberal
in the Senate. No specific statistics. Can anybody supply statistics
of occasions where Obama has voted against the party line? Can he think
for himself, or is he just a party puppet?

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...oted_with.html

Steve

Interesting link. According to that source, Obama voted with George Bush
40% of the time in 2007, when he bothered to vote. Even Harry Reid voted
with Bush 39% of the time in 2007. So tell me, Harry - was that bad
judgment, too?

But I also see that Obama has pretty much voted 100% in line with the
Democrats during his entire career, while McCain has often voted against
Republicans during his career. I know which one sounds like the puppet
to me.

Things are getting clearer and clearer all the time.

TJ

On Sep 3, 9:20*pm, TJ wrote:
Steve wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:04:30 -0400, TJ wrote:

Obama's followers are fond of quoting a statistic that McCain has voted
with George Bush over 90% of the time. The statistic varies with the one
doing the quoting, but it's never 100%. That means that, given
sufficient reason, McCain will go against his party leaders. His running
mate has also demonstrated a willingness to go against the party.

That is a quality I look for in an office seeker. I don't want someone
whose strings are pulled by the party. I want someone who is willing to
do what he or she thinks is right, no matter which side favors it. I
want somebody with some *guts.*

All I've heard about Obama's voting record is that it's the most liberal
*in the Senate. No specific statistics. Can anybody supply statistics
of occasions where Obama has voted against the party line? Can he think
for himself, or is he just a party puppet?

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...ccain_voted_wi...

Steve

Interesting link. According to that source, Obama voted with George Bush
40% of the time in 2007, when he bothered to vote. Even Harry Reid voted
with Bush 39% of the time in 2007. So tell me, Harry - was that bad
judgment, too?

But I also see that Obama has pretty much voted 100% in line with the
Democrats during his entire career, while McCain has often voted against
Republicans during his career. I know which one sounds like the puppet
to me.

Things are getting clearer and clearer all the time.

TJ- Hide quoted text -

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The intolerant party kicks those out who dare vote their concience...
It is not allowed by the dems, that is why we need a President who
puts "Country first". That is not Osamabama Bin Tokin' he just doesn't
have the guts to run the country..