Obama's followers are fond of quoting a statistic that McCain has voted
with George Bush over 90% of the time. The statistic varies with the one
doing the quoting, but it's never 100%. That means that, given
sufficient reason, McCain will go against his party leaders. His running
mate has also demonstrated a willingness to go against the party.

That is a quality I look for in an office seeker. I don't want someone
whose strings are pulled by the party. I want someone who is willing to
do what he or she thinks is right, no matter which side favors it. I
want somebody with some *guts.*

All I've heard about Obama's voting record is that it's the most liberal
in the Senate. No specific statistics. Can anybody supply statistics
of occasions where Obama has voted against the party line? Can he think
for himself, or is he just a party puppet?

TJ

TJ wrote:
Obama's followers are fond of quoting a statistic that McCain has voted
with George Bush over 90% of the time. The statistic varies with the one
doing the quoting, but it's never 100%. That means that, given
sufficient reason, McCain will go against his party leaders. His running
mate has also demonstrated a willingness to go against the party.

That is a quality I look for in an office seeker. I don't want someone
whose strings are pulled by the party. I want someone who is willing to
do what he or she thinks is right, no matter which side favors it. I
want somebody with some *guts.*

All I've heard about Obama's voting record is that it's the most liberal
in the Senate. No specific statistics. Can anybody supply statistics of
occasions where Obama has voted against the party line? Can he think for
himself, or is he just a party puppet?

TJ


Uh...you seem to have missed the point. McCain is positioning himself as
an independent, a maverick. But he votes with the Bush Regime about 90%
of the time. It's kind of difficult to position yourself as an
independent and a maverick when your positions are the same as a
president who has made as many major screw-ups as Bush, eh?

It's like Palin saying she's was for The Bridge to Nowhere and other
earmarks, but now she's against them. Oh, wait...that *is* her position.

hk wrote:
TJ wrote:

Obama's followers are fond of quoting a statistic that McCain has
voted with George Bush over 90% of the time. The statistic varies with
the one doing the quoting, but it's never 100%. That means that, given
sufficient reason, McCain will go against his party leaders. His
running mate has also demonstrated a willingness to go against the party.

That is a quality I look for in an office seeker. I don't want someone
whose strings are pulled by the party. I want someone who is willing
to do what he or she thinks is right, no matter which side favors it.
I want somebody with some *guts.*

All I've heard about Obama's voting record is that it's the most
liberal in the Senate. No specific statistics. Can anybody supply
statistics of occasions where Obama has voted against the party line?
Can he think for himself, or is he just a party puppet?

TJ



Uh...you seem to have missed the point. McCain is positioning himself as
an independent, a maverick. But he votes with the Bush Regime about 90%
of the time. It's kind of difficult to position yourself as an
independent and a maverick when your positions are the same as a
president who has made as many major screw-ups as Bush, eh?


Idiot. Totally missed the OP's point.

FF

On Sep 3, 8:04*am, TJ wrote:
Obama's followers are fond of quoting a statistic that McCain has voted
with George Bush over 90% of the time. The statistic varies with the one
doing the quoting, but it's never 100%. That means that, given
sufficient reason, McCain will go against his party leaders. His running
mate has also demonstrated a willingness to go against the party.

That is a quality I look for in an office seeker. I don't want someone
whose strings are pulled by the party. I want someone who is willing to
do what he or she thinks is right, no matter which side favors it. I
want somebody with some *guts.*

All I've heard about Obama's voting record is that it's the most liberal
* in the Senate. No specific statistics. Can anybody supply statistics
of occasions where Obama has voted against the party line? Can he think
for himself, or is he just a party puppet?

TJ

It' very misleading since that 90% is mostly voice votes about small
issues that mostly passed unanimously, Obama probably voted for the
same things, just as consistently. Just another distortion from the
Daily Kos and the DNC.. Now they want DNA from Palin, even though
the time line could never work out for the new baby to be Bristols'.
All they have to do is say it, and the idiots who don't want the
truth, fall into line...

On Sep 3, 8:04*am, TJ wrote:
Obama's followers are fond of quoting a statistic that McCain has voted
with George Bush over 90% of the time. The statistic varies with the one
doing the quoting, but it's never 100%. That means that, given
sufficient reason, McCain will go against his party leaders. His running
mate has also demonstrated a willingness to go against the party.

That is a quality I look for in an office seeker. I don't want someone
whose strings are pulled by the party. I want someone who is willing to
do what he or she thinks is right, no matter which side favors it. I
want somebody with some *guts.*

All I've heard about Obama's voting record is that it's the most liberal
* in the Senate. No specific statistics. Can anybody supply statistics
of occasions where Obama has voted against the party line? Can he think
for himself, or is he just a party puppet?


jesus, does this guy know what the term 'oxymoron' is?

first he says a 10% difference in mccains voting record in significant

THEN he says the fact that obama is the MOST liberal (meaning his
voting record is more different from the democratic average than ANY
other senator's) is not sufficient for him

typical rush limbaugh listener....

wrote:
On Sep 3, 8:04 am, TJ wrote:
Obama's followers are fond of quoting a statistic that McCain has voted
with George Bush over 90% of the time. The statistic varies with the one
doing the quoting, but it's never 100%. That means that, given
sufficient reason, McCain will go against his party leaders. His running
mate has also demonstrated a willingness to go against the party.

That is a quality I look for in an office seeker. I don't want someone
whose strings are pulled by the party. I want someone who is willing to
do what he or she thinks is right, no matter which side favors it. I
want somebody with some *guts.*

All I've heard about Obama's voting record is that it's the most liberal
in the Senate. No specific statistics. Can anybody supply statistics
of occasions where Obama has voted against the party line? Can he think
for himself, or is he just a party puppet?

TJ

It' very misleading since that 90% is mostly voice votes about small
issues that mostly passed unanimously, Obama probably voted for the
same things, just as consistently. Just another distortion from the
Daily Kos and the DNC.. Now they want DNA from Palin, even though
the time line could never work out for the new baby to be Bristols'.
All they have to do is say it, and the idiots who don't want the
truth, fall into line...


Behind you?

Hey...don't forget...John McCain was a POW.

"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
Obama's followers are fond of quoting a statistic that McCain has voted
with George Bush over 90% of the time. The statistic varies with the one
doing the quoting, but it's never 100%. That means that, given sufficient
reason, McCain will go against his party leaders. His running mate has
also demonstrated a willingness to go against the party.

That is a quality I look for in an office seeker. I don't want someone
whose strings are pulled by the party. I want someone who is willing to
do what he or she thinks is right, no matter which side favors it. I want
somebody with some *guts.*

All I've heard about Obama's voting record is that it's the most liberal
in the Senate. No specific statistics. Can anybody supply statistics of
occasions where Obama has voted against the party line? Can he think for
himself, or is he just a party puppet?

TJ


Uh...you seem to have missed the point. McCain is positioning himself as
an independent, a maverick. But he votes with the Bush Regime about 90% of
the time. It's kind of difficult to position yourself as an independent
and a maverick when your positions are the same as a president who has
made as many major screw-ups as Bush, eh?

It's like Palin saying she's was for The Bridge to Nowhere and other
earmarks, but now she's against them. Oh, wait...that *is* her position.

I heard that when there is a *unanimous* voting result in the Senate, even
those that would have voted against the issue are recorded as voting *for*
it.

I wonder if any of the 90% falls into that category.

D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
Obama's followers are fond of quoting a statistic that McCain has voted
with George Bush over 90% of the time. The statistic varies with the one
doing the quoting, but it's never 100%. That means that, given sufficient
reason, McCain will go against his party leaders. His running mate has
also demonstrated a willingness to go against the party.

That is a quality I look for in an office seeker. I don't want someone
whose strings are pulled by the party. I want someone who is willing to
do what he or she thinks is right, no matter which side favors it. I want
somebody with some *guts.*

All I've heard about Obama's voting record is that it's the most liberal
in the Senate. No specific statistics. Can anybody supply statistics of
occasions where Obama has voted against the party line? Can he think for
himself, or is he just a party puppet?

TJ

Uh...you seem to have missed the point. McCain is positioning himself as
an independent, a maverick. But he votes with the Bush Regime about 90% of
the time. It's kind of difficult to position yourself as an independent
and a maverick when your positions are the same as a president who has
made as many major screw-ups as Bush, eh?

It's like Palin saying she's was for The Bridge to Nowhere and other
earmarks, but now she's against them. Oh, wait...that *is* her position.

I heard that when there is a *unanimous* voting result in the Senate, even
those that would have voted against the issue are recorded as voting *for*
it.

I wonder if any of the 90% falls into that category.



What are the major issues on which McCain differs 180 degrees from Bush?

On Sep 3, 8:41*am, hk wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
Obama's followers are fond of quoting a statistic that McCain has voted
with George Bush over 90% of the time. The statistic varies with the one
doing the quoting, but it's never 100%. That means that, given sufficient
reason, McCain will go against his party leaders. His running mate has
also demonstrated a willingness to go against the party.

That is a quality I look for in an office seeker. I don't want someone
whose strings are pulled by the party. I want someone who is willing to
do what he or she thinks is right, no matter which side favors it. I want
somebody with some *guts.*

All I've heard about Obama's voting record is that it's the most liberal
in the Senate. No specific statistics. Can anybody supply statistics of
occasions where Obama has voted against the party line? Can he think for
himself, or is he just a party puppet?

TJ

Uh...you seem to have missed the point. McCain is positioning himself as
an independent, a maverick. But he votes with the Bush Regime about 90% of
the time. It's kind of difficult to position yourself as an independent
and a maverick when your positions are the same as a president who has
made as many major screw-ups as Bush, eh?

It's like Palin saying she's was for The Bridge to Nowhere and other
earmarks, but now she's against them. Oh, wait...that *is* her position.

On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:04:30 -0400, TJ wrote:

Obama's followers are fond of quoting a statistic that McCain has voted
with George Bush over 90% of the time. The statistic varies with the one
doing the quoting, but it's never 100%. That means that, given
sufficient reason, McCain will go against his party leaders. His running
mate has also demonstrated a willingness to go against the party.

That is a quality I look for in an office seeker. I don't want someone
whose strings are pulled by the party. I want someone who is willing to
do what he or she thinks is right, no matter which side favors it. I
want somebody with some *guts.*

All I've heard about Obama's voting record is that it's the most liberal
in the Senate. No specific statistics. Can anybody supply statistics
of occasions where Obama has voted against the party line? Can he think
for himself, or is he just a party puppet?

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...oted_with.html

Steve