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JimH wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:06:20 -0400, TJ wrote:

JimH wrote:
On Sep 3, 8:04 am, TJ wrote:
Obama's followers are fond of quoting a statistic that McCain has voted
with George Bush over 90% of the time. The statistic varies with the one
doing the quoting, but it's never 100%. That means that, given
sufficient reason, McCain will go against his party leaders. His running
mate has also demonstrated a willingness to go against the party.

That is a quality I look for in an office seeker. I don't want someone
whose strings are pulled by the party. I want someone who is willing to
do what he or she thinks is right, no matter which side favors it. I
want somebody with some *guts.*

All I've heard about Obama's voting record is that it's the most liberal
in the Senate. No specific statistics. Can anybody supply statistics
of occasions where Obama has voted against the party line? Can he think
for himself, or is he just a party puppet?

TJ
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/c...o000167/votes/

Thanks for the link. It's plain now. Most of the time, Obama doesn't
bother to vote. Too busy campaigning to do his job, apparently.

TJ


It also looks that when he did vote he voted across party lines.


Don't you mean "along" party lines? "Across" would mean he voted against
them.

TJ
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On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:14:03 -0400, TJ wrote:

JimH wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:06:20 -0400, TJ wrote:

JimH wrote:
On Sep 3, 8:04 am, TJ wrote:
Obama's followers are fond of quoting a statistic that McCain has voted
with George Bush over 90% of the time. The statistic varies with the one
doing the quoting, but it's never 100%. That means that, given
sufficient reason, McCain will go against his party leaders. His running
mate has also demonstrated a willingness to go against the party.

That is a quality I look for in an office seeker. I don't want someone
whose strings are pulled by the party. I want someone who is willing to
do what he or she thinks is right, no matter which side favors it. I
want somebody with some *guts.*

All I've heard about Obama's voting record is that it's the most liberal
in the Senate. No specific statistics. Can anybody supply statistics
of occasions where Obama has voted against the party line? Can he think
for himself, or is he just a party puppet?

TJ
http://projects.washingtonpost.com/c...o000167/votes/

Thanks for the link. It's plain now. Most of the time, Obama doesn't
bother to vote. Too busy campaigning to do his job, apparently.

TJ


It also looks that when he did vote he voted across party lines.


Don't you mean "along" party lines? "Across" would mean he voted against
them.

TJ



My bad........you are correct.
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On Sep 3, 8:40*am, Steve wrote:
On Wed, 03 Sep 2008 08:04:30 -0400, TJ wrote:
Obama's followers are fond of quoting a statistic that McCain has voted
with George Bush over 90% of the time. The statistic varies with the one
doing the quoting, but it's never 100%. That means that, given
sufficient reason, McCain will go against his party leaders. His running
mate has also demonstrated a willingness to go against the party.


That is a quality I look for in an office seeker. I don't want someone
whose strings are pulled by the party. I want someone who is willing to
do what he or she thinks is right, no matter which side favors it. I
want somebody with some *guts.*


All I've heard about Obama's voting record is that it's the most liberal
*in the Senate. No specific statistics. Can anybody supply statistics
of occasions where Obama has voted against the party line? Can he think
for himself, or is he just a party puppet?


http://www.factcheck.org/askfactchec...ccain_voted_wi...

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