On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:38:58 -0400, HK wrote:


You have no duty under the laws of your state to retreat in your house
if you think an intruder is going to harm you or a family member. I'm
not sure you would get the same pass for an outdoor trespasser.

Laws aside, I don't think I'd be wanting to get into a gunfight with two
cops.

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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:38:58 -0400, HK wrote:


You have no duty under the laws of your state to retreat in your house
if you think an intruder is going to harm you or a family member. I'm
not sure you would get the same pass for an outdoor trespasser.

Laws aside, I don't think I'd be wanting to get into a gunfight with two
cops.


Nope. Especially when it was pitch black out. I couldn't see them and I am
sure they couldn't see me very well.

Eisboch

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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:38:58 -0400, HK wrote:


You have no duty under the laws of your state to retreat in your house
if you think an intruder is going to harm you or a family member. I'm
not sure you would get the same pass for an outdoor trespasser.

Laws aside, I don't think I'd be wanting to get into a gunfight with two
cops.


I wasn't talking about a gunfight with cops somewhere on Eisboch's
property. I doubt the cops are going to bust into Eisboch's *house*
without a warrant. I guarantee the cops in his town know who lives on
his gentleman's estate.






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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:38:58 -0400, HK wrote:


You have no duty under the laws of your state to retreat in your house
if you think an intruder is going to harm you or a family member. I'm
not sure you would get the same pass for an outdoor trespasser.

Laws aside, I don't think I'd be wanting to get into a gunfight with two
cops.


I wasn't talking about a gunfight with cops somewhere on Eisboch's
property. I doubt the cops are going to bust into Eisboch's *house*
without a warrant. I guarantee the cops in his town know who lives on his
gentleman's estate.



Why does everybody call this place a "Gentleman's Estate"? That's what the
realtors call it also.

This place isn't any Gentleman's Estate. No Gentlemen live here. Mrs.E.
lives here. I am simply the hired help.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 08:38:58 -0400, HK wrote:


You have no duty under the laws of your state to retreat in your house
if you think an intruder is going to harm you or a family member. I'm
not sure you would get the same pass for an outdoor trespasser.
Laws aside, I don't think I'd be wanting to get into a gunfight with two
cops.

I wasn't talking about a gunfight with cops somewhere on Eisboch's
property. I doubt the cops are going to bust into Eisboch's *house*
without a warrant. I guarantee the cops in his town know who lives on his
gentleman's estate.



Why does everybody call this place a "Gentleman's Estate"? That's what the
realtors call it also.

This place isn't any Gentleman's Estate. No Gentlemen live here. Mrs.E.
lives here. I am simply the hired help.

Eisboch




Right. Of course. You got it.


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No way, no how, no McCain!

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Laws aside, I don't think I'd be wanting to get into a gunfight with two
cops.

Quite true, With few exceptions most cops are lousy shots. UD

UglyDan®©™ wrote:
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Laws aside, I don't think I'd be wanting to get into a gunfight with two
cops.

Quite true, With few exceptions most cops are lousy shots. UD







I don't know how well "all" cops shoot, but most of the ones I see at
the two indoor ranges I frequent are awful shots and apparently are only
at the range because a trip there every so often is required.

(hk) wrote:
I don't know how well "all" cops shoot, but most of the ones I see at
the two indoor ranges I frequent are awful shots and apparently are only
at the range because a trip there every so often is required.


Exactly, Most cops tend to think of their sidearm as just another piece
of equipment they have to carry along with baton, cuffs, flashlight
etc.. and only use it for qualification every 6 months. I do RSO +
Instructor at two different outdoor ranges, and do signoffs on alot of
the targets for them, Its depressing watching most of them shoot.
Then again there's always the exception, One of the best rifle and
pistol shooters I know is a retired cop.
You do know shooting at indoor ranges isn't exactly healthy. I avoid
them like the plague.

FRONT SIGHT- FRONT SIGHT! UD

UglyDan®©™ wrote:
(hk) wrote:
I don't know how well "all" cops shoot, but most of the ones I see at
the two indoor ranges I frequent are awful shots and apparently are only
at the range because a trip there every so often is required.


Exactly, Most cops tend to think of their sidearm as just another piece
of equipment they have to carry along with baton, cuffs, flashlight
etc.. and only use it for qualification every 6 months. I do RSO +
Instructor at two different outdoor ranges, and do signoffs on alot of
the targets for them, Its depressing watching most of them shoot.
Then again there's always the exception, One of the best rifle and
pistol shooters I know is a retired cop.
You do know shooting at indoor ranges isn't exactly healthy. I avoid
them like the plague.

FRONT SIGHT- FRONT SIGHT! UD





I "hit" the indoor ranges mostly in the winter, when the outdoor ranges
are too damned cold.

UglyDan®©™ wrote:
wrote:
Laws aside, I don't think I'd be wanting to get into a gunfight with two
cops.

Quite true, With few exceptions most cops are lousy shots. UD



When I lived up north I hit a deer with my car - a rather common
occurrence in that area. I called the cops for a police report and when
he arrived the deer was laying by the tree line at the side of the road
- alive but in very bad shape. The cop pulled his 9MM (maybe a 10MM
back then) took aim and pulled the trigger. The deer flinched and
cowered. It was a 10 yard shot at best. I offered to help but the cop
declined - and was embarrassed/****ed at the missed shot. The 2nd shot
put the deer out of his misery.

After the paperwork was done, he asked me if I was taking the deer.
While I was telling him "no" a pickup rolled up and a guy asked me if he
could have it. The cop said "it's your deer". I told him to take it
and politely declined his request to load the bloody animal into his truck.