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BAR wrote:
hk wrote: D.Duck wrote: "hk" wrote in message ... D.Duck wrote: "hk" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 14:50:36 -0500, Vic Smith wrote: Tell Gene his shop guys don't have decent jobs. Tell Eisboch his shop guys don't have decent jobs. Ask them if the gov should do their best to keep those jobs here. Tell my son the truck suspension guy he doesn't have a decent job. Go right ahead. Gene's guys work on aircraft and/or are machinists. Both require high skill levels. Eisboch's (former) guys did complex optics and vacuum deposition work, more highly skilled jobs. I assume your son is a skilled mechanic working on truck suspensions? Just to clarify, in addition to optical thin film engineers and technicians, the company also had (still has) many skilled welders, fabricators, machinists, electricians, general assembly people, plus a full staff of mechanical, electrical, software engineers and CAD designers. This is why Harry's assumption that nobody can possibly know more about non union workplaces than him is so empty. He has really had a very narrow exposure to the overall American workforce, despite his claims. Eisboch How many of the non-degreed fellows at that plant are making $37 an hour in the envelope, plus pension and health benefits? How many union guys are making $37 an hour in the envelope? Construction workers? Lots. Not most, but lots. My local has a call out for specialty welders for three to four years of work at rates higher than that, plus the probability of significant OT. The skills required for those jobs are way over my pay rate, but...I'm glad to see the rate way up there. Gosh...I'm amazed you even know what that term in the envelope means. Believe it or not I was a Teamster at one time. I had to be a member for my job during college selling/delivering 7-UP. I still don't think there are as many union electricians and plumbers making you would like everyone believe. But now you spin it to *specialty welders*. Not at all, I just happened to mention an entirely different trade. I never said the $37 an hour jobs were under contracts negotiated by by local. You really need to get a little beyond Reggiethink. BTW, I was a teamster two college summers. Made about $12.50 an hour driving a fork lift truck inside a factory in Milford, CT. This was around 1960-61. Year earlier, I made a bit less loading beer into trucks. You were over-paid. It's another lie. |
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