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HK August 29th 08 12:56 AM

CAFE standards for boats
 
wrote:
On Aug 28, 6:50 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 5:30 pm, Vic Smith wrote:





On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Affordable electric boats will be a reality soon for simple inshore
boating use. Gas will be available, but taxed to keep it expensive.
Gas taxes will mostly subsidize electric.
Electric taxes will begin to subsidize road infrastructure,
Road tollway taxes will subsidize the tourist industry.
Tourist taxes will subsidize....
Uh oh.
--Vic

"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Just like the "fairness doctrine". they are not tolerant, they are not
for free speech..




I'm still waiting for you to tell us what the Republicans are going to
do to help you obtain the medications and health care you need.

Wait...I know the answer: nothing.








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No way, no how, no McCain!

[email protected] August 29th 08 01:02 AM

CAFE standards for boats
 
On Aug 28, 7:56*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 6:50 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 5:30 pm, Vic Smith wrote:


On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Affordable electric boats will be a reality soon for simple inshore
boating use. *Gas will be available, but taxed to keep it expensive..
Gas taxes will mostly subsidize electric.
Electric taxes will begin to subsidize road infrastructure,
Road tollway taxes will subsidize the tourist industry.
Tourist taxes will subsidize....
Uh oh.
--Vic
"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? *Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Just like the "fairness doctrine". they are not tolerant, they are not
for free speech..


I'm still waiting for you to tell us what the Republicans are going to
do to help you obtain the medications and health care you need.


Hopefully more than Billary.. Remember, Bill and Hill proping up the
pharmas', promising reform, then shorting the stock, then dumping her
health care plan right on que... Reports say she made over one million
on that short stock scam.

HK August 29th 08 01:06 AM

CAFE standards for boats
 
wrote:
On Aug 28, 7:56 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 6:50 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 5:30 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Affordable electric boats will be a reality soon for simple inshore
boating use. Gas will be available, but taxed to keep it expensive.
Gas taxes will mostly subsidize electric.
Electric taxes will begin to subsidize road infrastructure,
Road tollway taxes will subsidize the tourist industry.
Tourist taxes will subsidize....
Uh oh.
--Vic
"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Just like the "fairness doctrine". they are not tolerant, they are not
for free speech..

I'm still waiting for you to tell us what the Republicans are going to
do to help you obtain the medications and health care you need.


Hopefully more than Billary.. Remember, Bill and Hill proping up the
pharmas', promising reform, then shorting the stock, then dumping her
health care plan right on que... Reports say she made over one million
on that short stock scam.



Thanks. I wanted to see what little you knew about this, and you didn't
disappoint.



--
No way, no how, no McCain!

[email protected] August 29th 08 01:24 AM

CAFE standards for boats
 
On Aug 28, 8:06*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 7:56 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 6:50 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 5:30 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Affordable electric boats will be a reality soon for simple inshore
boating use. *Gas will be available, but taxed to keep it expensive.
Gas taxes will mostly subsidize electric.
Electric taxes will begin to subsidize road infrastructure,
Road tollway taxes will subsidize the tourist industry.
Tourist taxes will subsidize....
Uh oh.
--Vic
"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? *Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Just like the "fairness doctrine". they are not tolerant, they are not
for free speech..
I'm still waiting for you to tell us what the Republicans are going to
do to help you obtain the medications and health care you need.


Hopefully more than Billary.. Remember, Bill and Hill proping up the
pharmas', promising reform, then shorting the stock, then dumping her
health care plan right on que... Reports say she made over one million
on that short stock scam.


Thanks. I wanted to see what little you knew about this, and you didn't
disappoint.

--
No way, no how, no McCain!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Nice deflection... I have no reason to debate you on any real issue.
You are a liar, I would be wasting my time....

HK August 29th 08 01:30 AM

CAFE standards for boats
 
wrote:
On Aug 28, 8:06 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 7:56 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 6:50 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 5:30 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Affordable electric boats will be a reality soon for simple inshore
boating use. Gas will be available, but taxed to keep it expensive.
Gas taxes will mostly subsidize electric.
Electric taxes will begin to subsidize road infrastructure,
Road tollway taxes will subsidize the tourist industry.
Tourist taxes will subsidize....
Uh oh.
--Vic
"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Just like the "fairness doctrine". they are not tolerant, they are not
for free speech..
I'm still waiting for you to tell us what the Republicans are going to
do to help you obtain the medications and health care you need.
Hopefully more than Billary.. Remember, Bill and Hill proping up the
pharmas', promising reform, then shorting the stock, then dumping her
health care plan right on que... Reports say she made over one million
on that short stock scam.

Thanks. I wanted to see what little you knew about this, and you didn't
disappoint.

--
No way, no how, no McCain!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Nice deflection... I have no reason to debate you on any real issue.
You are a liar, I would be wasting my time....



You don't have the ability or knowledge to debate me on any political
issue if customary rules of debate/discussion are followed. You're full
of Faux News/Limbaugh bullschitt.

BTW, who are these "20 professionals" who are present at your kiddie
motorcycle races?

Professional what? Trauma surgeons? Burn specialists? Orthopedists?





--
No way, no how, no McCain!

[email protected] August 29th 08 02:20 AM

CAFE standards for boats
 
On Aug 28, 8:30 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 8:06 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 7:56 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 6:50 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 5:30 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Affordable electric boats will be a reality soon for simple inshore
boating use. Gas will be available, but taxed to keep it expensive.
Gas taxes will mostly subsidize electric.
Electric taxes will begin to subsidize road infrastructure,
Road tollway taxes will subsidize the tourist industry.
Tourist taxes will subsidize....
Uh oh.
--Vic
"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Just like the "fairness doctrine". they are not tolerant, they are not
for free speech..
I'm still waiting for you to tell us what the Republicans are going to
do to help you obtain the medications and health care you need.
Hopefully more than Billary.. Remember, Bill and Hill proping up the
pharmas', promising reform, then shorting the stock, then dumping her
health care plan right on que... Reports say she made over one million
on that short stock scam.
Thanks. I wanted to see what little you knew about this, and you didn't
disappoint.


--
No way, no how, no McCain!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Nice deflection... I have no reason to debate you on any real issue.
You are a liar, I would be wasting my time....


You don't have the ability or knowledge to debate me on any political
issue if customary rules of debate/discussion are followed. You're full
of Faux News/Limbaugh bullschitt.

BTW, who are these "20 professionals" who are present at your kiddie
motorcycle races?

Professional what? Trauma surgeons? Burn specialists? Orthopedists?

--
No way, no how, no McCain!


Wal MArt, yes, Wal MArt has done more for health care reform than all
the Dems put together ever have. Yes, $5.00 for generic prescriptions
is a better thing than any Dem pol has ever thought of.

-rick- August 29th 08 04:24 AM

CAFE standards for boats
 
wrote:
"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?


http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...3/1068/opinion

HK August 29th 08 04:29 AM

CAFE standards for boats
 
-rick- wrote:
wrote:
"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?


http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...3/1068/opinion



Ayers was never convicted of a crime.

Further, generally, the anti-war protesters of the Vietnam War era were
the ones on the correct side. Generally, because I'm a Martin Luther
King kind of protester, non-violent above all, and I didn't appreciate
any anti-Vietnam war protests that physically hurt anyone.



--
No way, no how, no McCain!

Eisboch August 29th 08 04:36 AM

CAFE standards for boats
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
-rick- wrote:
wrote:
"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?


http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...3/1068/opinion



Ayers was never convicted of a crime.

Further, generally, the anti-war protesters of the Vietnam War era were
the ones on the correct side. Generally, because I'm a Martin Luther King
kind of protester, non-violent above all, and I didn't appreciate any
anti-Vietnam war protests that physically hurt anyone.


He wasn't convicted because of a legal technicality. But, he acknowledged
to the New York Times (in 2001),
"I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."


Eisboch



HK August 29th 08 04:38 AM

CAFE standards for boats
 
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
-rick- wrote:
wrote:
"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...3/1068/opinion


Ayers was never convicted of a crime.

Further, generally, the anti-war protesters of the Vietnam War era were
the ones on the correct side. Generally, because I'm a Martin Luther King
kind of protester, non-violent above all, and I didn't appreciate any
anti-Vietnam war protests that physically hurt anyone.


He wasn't convicted because of a legal technicality. But, he acknowledged
to the New York Times (in 2001),
"I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."


Eisboch



I'm aware of the details, and, as I stated, I was a non-violent
protester, and still am.



--
No way, no how, no McCain!


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