CAFE standards for boats
 

Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................

CAFE standards for boats
 

CAFE standards for boats
 

hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................


Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.




Are there any limits on what will be rationed?

Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.

CAFE standards for boats
 

On Aug 28, 1:43 pm, BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................

Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.

Are there any limits on what will be rationed?

Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.

I doubt that most Parkers are seriously fuel efficient so HK should
pay the boat gas guzzler tax.

CAFE standards for boats
 

On Aug 28, 1:47*pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:43 pm, BAR wrote:

hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................

Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.

Are there any limits on what will be rationed?

Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.

I doubt that most Parkers are seriously fuel efficient so HK should
pay the boat gas guzzler tax.

But what about that 36' Zimmerman like lobster boat?
Oh, wait, that was just another lie of Harry's.......

CAFE standards for boats
 

On Aug 28, 1:47 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:43 pm, BAR wrote:

hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................

Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.

Are there any limits on what will be rationed?

Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.

I doubt that most Parkers are seriously fuel efficient so HK should
pay the boat gas guzzler tax.

Maybe limit recreational boat use to 10 gallons /week or would 5
gallons/week be better?

CAFE standards for boats
 

CAFE standards for boats
 

On Aug 28, 1:56 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:47 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:43 pm, BAR wrote:

hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.
Are there any limits on what will be rationed?
Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.
I doubt that most Parkers are seriously fuel efficient so HK should
pay the boat gas guzzler tax.

Maybe limit recreational boat use to 10 gallons /week or would 5
gallons/week be better?

20 gallons of gasoline a week in the summer would be fine with me.

I can head out and go fishing twice on that... :) I don't need any
boat gasoline from the end of November until near the end of April.

--
No way, no how, no McCain!

After considering it, 5 gallons a week is 260/year, a huge amount.
I'd propose 1 gallon/week PER boat and it cannot be accumulated for
more than a quarter because poor people with old cars need the gas AND
the marinas should have to charge a 50 cent /gallon luxury tax. Why
should gas guzzling luxury boaters use gas that poor people need?

CAFE standards for boats
 

hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:47 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:43 pm, BAR wrote:

hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.
Are there any limits on what will be rationed?
Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.
I doubt that most Parkers are seriously fuel efficient so HK should
pay the boat gas guzzler tax.

Maybe limit recreational boat use to 10 gallons /week or would 5
gallons/week be better?

20 gallons of gasoline a week in the summer would be fine with me.

I can head out and go fishing twice on that... :) I don't need any
boat gasoline from the end of November until near the end of April.

Why should your "standard" of boat use be forced upon everyone else?

CAFE standards for boats
 

CAFE standards for boats
 

On Aug 28, 2:10 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:56 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:47 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:43 pm, BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.
Are there any limits on what will be rationed?
Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.
I doubt that most Parkers are seriously fuel efficient so HK should
pay the boat gas guzzler tax.
Maybe limit recreational boat use to 10 gallons /week or would 5
gallons/week be better?
20 gallons of gasoline a week in the summer would be fine with me.

I can head out and go fishing twice on that... :) I don't need any
boat gasoline from the end of November until near the end of April.

--
No way, no how, no McCain!

After considering it, 5 gallons a week is 260/year, a huge amount.
I'd propose 1 gallon/week PER boat and it cannot be accumulated for
more than a quarter because poor people with old cars need the gas AND
the marinas should have to charge a 50 cent /gallon luxury tax. Why
should gas guzzling luxury boaters use gas that poor people need?

Philosophically, I do not disagree with the underpinning of that bit of
sarcasm. I used to sail and I could do so again. The needs of the many
sometimes outweigh the pleasures of the one.

--
No way, no how, no McCain!

A Parker would look odd with a sail.

CAFE standards for boats
 

On Aug 28, 2:36*pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 2:10 pm, hk wrote:





wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:56 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:47 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:43 pm, BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.
Are there any limits on what will be rationed?
Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.
I doubt that most Parkers are seriously fuel efficient so HK should
pay the boat gas guzzler tax.
Maybe limit recreational boat use to 10 gallons /week or would 5
gallons/week be better?
20 gallons of gasoline a week in the summer would be fine with me.

I can head out and go fishing twice on that... *:) I don't need any
boat gasoline from the end of November until near the end of April.

--
No way, no how, no McCain!

After considering it, 5 gallons a week is 260/year, a huge amount.
I'd propose 1 gallon/week PER boat and it cannot be accumulated for
more than a quarter because poor people with old cars need the gas AND
the marinas should have to charge a 50 cent /gallon luxury tax. *Why
should gas guzzling luxury boaters use gas that poor people need?

Philosophically, I do not disagree with the underpinning of that bit of
sarcasm. I used to sail and I could do so again. The needs of the many
sometimes outweigh the pleasures of the one.

--
No way, no how, no McCain!

A Parker would look odd with a sail.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So wouldn't a Zimmerman like lobster boat!

CAFE standards for boats
 

CAFE standards for boats
 

On Aug 28, 3:18 pm, Keith nuttle wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:47 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:43 pm, BAR wrote:

hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.
Are there any limits on what will be rationed?
Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.
I doubt that most Parkers are seriously fuel efficient so HK should
pay the boat gas guzzler tax.

Maybe limit recreational boat use to 10 gallons /week or would 5
gallons/week be better?

This is a great idea. Anything under 10hp would not be taxed. Anyone
with a sailboat and no motor would get paid to go sailing.

God help Me I do not want to be known as the author of this idea.

CAFE standards for boats
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................


Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of serious
discussion by the next administration in open forums.




Oh boy. Another small step for man ..... another giant leap towards
Socialism.

Eisboch

CAFE standards for boats
 

wrote in message
...
On Aug 28, 3:18 pm, Keith nuttle wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:47 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:43 pm, BAR wrote:

hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.
Are there any limits on what will be rationed?
Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.
I doubt that most Parkers are seriously fuel efficient so HK should
pay the boat gas guzzler tax.

Maybe limit recreational boat use to 10 gallons /week or would 5
gallons/week be better?

This is a great idea. Anything under 10hp would not be taxed. Anyone
with a sailboat and no motor would get paid to go sailing.

God help Me I do not want to be known as the author of this idea.




I liked my idea better. Those with small, fuel efficient gas sipper cars
or boats should pay more per gallon because they don't need as much.
Those with gas guzzlers pay less because they need more.

Balanced properly, everybody pays the same to support their transportation
needs or recreational activities. What's more fair than that?

It's called redistribution of resources, in the interest of fairness, of
course.

Eisboch

CAFE standards for boats
 

On Aug 28, 1:43*pm, BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................

Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.

Are there any limits on what will be rationed?

Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.

Bingo!

CAFE standards for boats
 

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:32:48 -0700 (PDT), JimH wrote:

On Aug 28, 1:43*pm, BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................

Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.

Are there any limits on what will be rationed?

Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.

Bingo!

Doing a little sucking up, Jimmie? You probably ought to stick to Krause.
Most everyone else can see through you. Krause can too, but it's expedient
for him not to.

CAFE standards for boats
 

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................

Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of serious
discussion by the next administration in open forums.




Oh boy. Another small step for man ..... another giant leap towards
Socialism.

Eisboch



Yeah...it got us through World War II at home. Was that what it
was...socialism?


--
No way, no how, no McCain!

CAFE standards for boats
 

On Aug 28, 4:55*pm, John H wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:32:48 -0700 (PDT), JimH wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:43*pm, BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................

Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.

Are there any limits on what will be rationed?

Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.

Bingo!

Doing a little sucking up, Jimmie? You probably ought to stick to Krause.
Most everyone else can see through you. Krause can too, but it's expedient
for him not to.

Agreeing with someone and not getting nasty is sucking up in your
mind?

Interesting.

CAFE standards for boats
 

"hk" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................

Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.




Oh boy. Another small step for man ..... another giant leap towards
Socialism.

Eisboch

Yeah...it got us through World War II at home. Was that what it
was...socialism?


You can't be serious.

Eisboch

CAFE standards for boats
 

JimH wrote:
On Aug 28, 4:55 pm, John H wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:32:48 -0700 (PDT), JimH wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:43 pm, BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.
Are there any limits on what will be rationed?
Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.
Bingo!
Doing a little sucking up, Jimmie? You probably ought to stick to Krause.
Most everyone else can see through you. Krause can too, but it's expedient
for him not to.

Agreeing with someone and not getting nasty is sucking up in your
mind?

Interesting.


Herring is a slime. Always has been, always will be.

Rationing certainly should be discussed during any Energy Policy for the
United States meetings the Obama administration holds next year, and so
should every other idea, and those meetings should and will be open to
the public and its representatives.

Everything should be discussed openly. Further, the Senate and House
should hold open hearings on all energy issues except those that
specifically relate to real national security matters.


--
John McCain: Too tired for our times.

CAFE standards for boats
 

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.



Oh boy. Another small step for man ..... another giant leap towards
Socialism.

Eisboch
Yeah...it got us through World War II at home. Was that what it
was...socialism?


You can't be serious.

Eisboch



You are the one who said rationing was a "giant step" toward socialism,
not me. Since we had rationing during World War II here at home, I was
wondering if *that* was socialism.




--
No way, no how, no McCain!

CAFE standards for boats
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................


Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.




Oh boy. Another small step for man ..... another giant leap towards
Socialism.

Eisboch

That will kill Obama's chance of getting elected if he ever says that.

CAFE standards for boats
 

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................

Affordable electric boats will be a reality soon for simple inshore
boating use. Gas will be available, but taxed to keep it expensive.
Gas taxes will mostly subsidize electric.
Electric taxes will begin to subsidize road infrastructure,
Road tollway taxes will subsidize the tourist industry.
Tourist taxes will subsidize....
Uh oh.

--Vic

CAFE standards for boats
 

On Aug 28, 5:30 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................

Affordable electric boats will be a reality soon for simple inshore
boating use. Gas will be available, but taxed to keep it expensive.
Gas taxes will mostly subsidize electric.
Electric taxes will begin to subsidize road infrastructure,
Road tollway taxes will subsidize the tourist industry.
Tourist taxes will subsidize....
Uh oh.

--Vic

"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?

CAFE standards for boats
 

hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 28, 4:55 pm, John H wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:32:48 -0700 (PDT), JimH wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:43 pm, BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.
Are there any limits on what will be rationed?
Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.
Bingo!
Doing a little sucking up, Jimmie? You probably ought to stick to
Krause.
Most everyone else can see through you. Krause can too, but it's
expedient
for him not to.

Agreeing with someone and not getting nasty is sucking up in your
mind?

Interesting.


Herring is a slime. Always has been, always will be.

Herring has something you will never have and that is a presidential
commission.

Rationing certainly should be discussed during any Energy Policy for the
United States meetings the Obama administration holds next year, and so
should every other idea, and those meetings should and will be open to
the public and its representatives.

Why stop with energy. Why not ration housing, food, clothing, health
care. Why not just determine who is worthy and who is not worthy of
attending the best schools. The Soviet Union did this and look at how
well it worked out for them.

Everything should be discussed openly. Further, the Senate and House
should hold open hearings on all energy issues except those that
specifically relate to real national security matters.

Representative Jefferson, D-La., should be brought up on ethics charges
in an open session of the full house. The first questions should be
where did the $90K you were storing in your freezer come from.

CAFE standards for boats
 

BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:47 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:43 pm, BAR wrote:

hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.
Are there any limits on what will be rationed?
Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.
I doubt that most Parkers are seriously fuel efficient so HK should
pay the boat gas guzzler tax.

Maybe limit recreational boat use to 10 gallons /week or would 5
gallons/week be better?

20 gallons of gasoline a week in the summer would be fine with me.

I can head out and go fishing twice on that... :) I don't need any
boat gasoline from the end of November until near the end of April.

Why should your "standard" of boat use be forced upon everyone else?


WAFA might use 20 gallons the whole summer. Remember the "big" Parker
with 150 hours on it?

CAFE standards for boats
 

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.



Oh boy. Another small step for man ..... another giant leap towards
Socialism.

Eisboch
Yeah...it got us through World War II at home. Was that what it
was...socialism?


You can't be serious.

Eisboch



He's just not that bright.

CAFE standards for boats
 

On Aug 28, 6:50*pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 5:30 pm, Vic Smith wrote:





On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................

Affordable electric boats will be a reality soon for simple inshore
boating use. *Gas will be available, but taxed to keep it expensive.
Gas taxes will mostly subsidize electric.
Electric taxes will begin to subsidize road infrastructure,
Road tollway taxes will subsidize the tourist industry.
Tourist taxes will subsidize....
Uh oh.

--Vic

"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? *Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just like the "fairness doctrine". they are not tolerant, they are not
for free speech..

CAFE standards for boats
 

CAFE standards for boats
 

On Aug 28, 7:56*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 6:50 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 5:30 pm, Vic Smith wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Affordable electric boats will be a reality soon for simple inshore
boating use. *Gas will be available, but taxed to keep it expensive..
Gas taxes will mostly subsidize electric.
Electric taxes will begin to subsidize road infrastructure,
Road tollway taxes will subsidize the tourist industry.
Tourist taxes will subsidize....
Uh oh.
--Vic
"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? *Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Just like the "fairness doctrine". they are not tolerant, they are not
for free speech..

I'm still waiting for you to tell us what the Republicans are going to
do to help you obtain the medications and health care you need.


Hopefully more than Billary.. Remember, Bill and Hill proping up the
pharmas', promising reform, then shorting the stock, then dumping her
health care plan right on que... Reports say she made over one million
on that short stock scam.

CAFE standards for boats
 

CAFE standards for boats
 

On Aug 28, 8:06*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 7:56 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 6:50 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 5:30 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Affordable electric boats will be a reality soon for simple inshore
boating use. *Gas will be available, but taxed to keep it expensive.
Gas taxes will mostly subsidize electric.
Electric taxes will begin to subsidize road infrastructure,
Road tollway taxes will subsidize the tourist industry.
Tourist taxes will subsidize....
Uh oh.
--Vic
"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? *Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Just like the "fairness doctrine". they are not tolerant, they are not
for free speech..
I'm still waiting for you to tell us what the Republicans are going to
do to help you obtain the medications and health care you need.

Hopefully more than Billary.. Remember, Bill and Hill proping up the
pharmas', promising reform, then shorting the stock, then dumping her
health care plan right on que... Reports say she made over one million
on that short stock scam.

Thanks. I wanted to see what little you knew about this, and you didn't
disappoint.

--
No way, no how, no McCain!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nice deflection... I have no reason to debate you on any real issue.
You are a liar, I would be wasting my time....

CAFE standards for boats
 

CAFE standards for boats
 

On Aug 28, 8:30 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 8:06 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 7:56 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 6:50 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 5:30 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Affordable electric boats will be a reality soon for simple inshore
boating use. Gas will be available, but taxed to keep it expensive.
Gas taxes will mostly subsidize electric.
Electric taxes will begin to subsidize road infrastructure,
Road tollway taxes will subsidize the tourist industry.
Tourist taxes will subsidize....
Uh oh.
--Vic
"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Just like the "fairness doctrine". they are not tolerant, they are not
for free speech..
I'm still waiting for you to tell us what the Republicans are going to
do to help you obtain the medications and health care you need.
Hopefully more than Billary.. Remember, Bill and Hill proping up the
pharmas', promising reform, then shorting the stock, then dumping her
health care plan right on que... Reports say she made over one million
on that short stock scam.
Thanks. I wanted to see what little you knew about this, and you didn't
disappoint.

--
No way, no how, no McCain!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nice deflection... I have no reason to debate you on any real issue.
You are a liar, I would be wasting my time....

You don't have the ability or knowledge to debate me on any political
issue if customary rules of debate/discussion are followed. You're full
of Faux News/Limbaugh bullschitt.

BTW, who are these "20 professionals" who are present at your kiddie
motorcycle races?

Professional what? Trauma surgeons? Burn specialists? Orthopedists?

--
No way, no how, no McCain!

Wal MArt, yes, Wal MArt has done more for health care reform than all
the Dems put together ever have. Yes, $5.00 for generic prescriptions
is a better thing than any Dem pol has ever thought of.

CAFE standards for boats
 

wrote:
"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...3/1068/opinion

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-rick- wrote:
wrote:
"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...3/1068/opinion



Ayers was never convicted of a crime.

Further, generally, the anti-war protesters of the Vietnam War era were
the ones on the correct side. Generally, because I'm a Martin Luther
King kind of protester, non-violent above all, and I didn't appreciate
any anti-Vietnam war protests that physically hurt anyone.



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"hk" wrote in message
. ..
-rick- wrote:
wrote:
"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...3/1068/opinion


Ayers was never convicted of a crime.

Further, generally, the anti-war protesters of the Vietnam War era were
the ones on the correct side. Generally, because I'm a Martin Luther King
kind of protester, non-violent above all, and I didn't appreciate any
anti-Vietnam war protests that physically hurt anyone.


He wasn't convicted because of a legal technicality. But, he acknowledged
to the New York Times (in 2001),
"I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."


Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
-rick- wrote:
wrote:
"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a...3/1068/opinion

Ayers was never convicted of a crime.

Further, generally, the anti-war protesters of the Vietnam War era were
the ones on the correct side. Generally, because I'm a Martin Luther King
kind of protester, non-violent above all, and I didn't appreciate any
anti-Vietnam war protests that physically hurt anyone.


He wasn't convicted because of a legal technicality. But, he acknowledged
to the New York Times (in 2001),
"I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."


Eisboch



I'm aware of the details, and, as I stated, I was a non-violent
protester, and still am.



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No way, no how, no McCain!