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Eisboch August 28th 08 10:21 PM

CAFE standards for boats
 

"hk" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................

Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.




Oh boy. Another small step for man ..... another giant leap towards
Socialism.

Eisboch


Yeah...it got us through World War II at home. Was that what it
was...socialism?


You can't be serious.

Eisboch



HK August 28th 08 10:23 PM

CAFE standards for boats
 
JimH wrote:
On Aug 28, 4:55 pm, John H wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:32:48 -0700 (PDT), JimH wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:43 pm, BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.
Are there any limits on what will be rationed?
Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.
Bingo!

Doing a little sucking up, Jimmie? You probably ought to stick to Krause.
Most everyone else can see through you. Krause can too, but it's expedient
for him not to.


Agreeing with someone and not getting nasty is sucking up in your
mind?

Interesting.



Herring is a slime. Always has been, always will be.

Rationing certainly should be discussed during any Energy Policy for the
United States meetings the Obama administration holds next year, and so
should every other idea, and those meetings should and will be open to
the public and its representatives.

Everything should be discussed openly. Further, the Senate and House
should hold open hearings on all energy issues except those that
specifically relate to real national security matters.


--
John McCain: Too tired for our times.

HK August 28th 08 10:25 PM

CAFE standards for boats
 
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.



Oh boy. Another small step for man ..... another giant leap towards
Socialism.

Eisboch

Yeah...it got us through World War II at home. Was that what it
was...socialism?


You can't be serious.

Eisboch



You are the one who said rationing was a "giant step" toward socialism,
not me. Since we had rationing during World War II here at home, I was
wondering if *that* was socialism.




--
No way, no how, no McCain!

RPSIII[_2_] August 28th 08 10:26 PM

CAFE standards for boats
 


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................



Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.




Oh boy. Another small step for man ..... another giant leap towards
Socialism.

Eisboch


That will kill Obama's chance of getting elected if he ever says that.



Vic Smith August 28th 08 10:30 PM

CAFE standards for boats
 
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................


Affordable electric boats will be a reality soon for simple inshore
boating use. Gas will be available, but taxed to keep it expensive.
Gas taxes will mostly subsidize electric.
Electric taxes will begin to subsidize road infrastructure,
Road tollway taxes will subsidize the tourist industry.
Tourist taxes will subsidize....
Uh oh.

--Vic

[email protected] August 28th 08 11:50 PM

CAFE standards for boats
 
On Aug 28, 5:30 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................


Affordable electric boats will be a reality soon for simple inshore
boating use. Gas will be available, but taxed to keep it expensive.
Gas taxes will mostly subsidize electric.
Electric taxes will begin to subsidize road infrastructure,
Road tollway taxes will subsidize the tourist industry.
Tourist taxes will subsidize....
Uh oh.

--Vic


"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?

BAR[_2_] August 28th 08 11:57 PM

CAFE standards for boats
 
hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 28, 4:55 pm, John H wrote:
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:32:48 -0700 (PDT), JimH wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:43 pm, BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.
Are there any limits on what will be rationed?
Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.
Bingo!
Doing a little sucking up, Jimmie? You probably ought to stick to
Krause.
Most everyone else can see through you. Krause can too, but it's
expedient
for him not to.


Agreeing with someone and not getting nasty is sucking up in your
mind?

Interesting.



Herring is a slime. Always has been, always will be.


Herring has something you will never have and that is a presidential
commission.

Rationing certainly should be discussed during any Energy Policy for the
United States meetings the Obama administration holds next year, and so
should every other idea, and those meetings should and will be open to
the public and its representatives.


Why stop with energy. Why not ration housing, food, clothing, health
care. Why not just determine who is worthy and who is not worthy of
attending the best schools. The Soviet Union did this and look at how
well it worked out for them.

Everything should be discussed openly. Further, the Senate and House
should hold open hearings on all energy issues except those that
specifically relate to real national security matters.


Representative Jefferson, D-La., should be brought up on ethics charges
in an open session of the full house. The first questions should be
where did the $90K you were storing in your freezer come from.

DK August 29th 08 12:38 AM

CAFE standards for boats
 
BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:47 pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 1:43 pm, BAR wrote:

hk wrote:
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.
Are there any limits on what will be rationed?
Be careful rationing is a slippery slope to total control of the
population.
I doubt that most Parkers are seriously fuel efficient so HK should
pay the boat gas guzzler tax.

Maybe limit recreational boat use to 10 gallons /week or would 5
gallons/week be better?


20 gallons of gasoline a week in the summer would be fine with me.

I can head out and go fishing twice on that... :) I don't need any
boat gasoline from the end of November until near the end of April.


Why should your "standard" of boat use be forced upon everyone else?


WAFA might use 20 gallons the whole summer. Remember the "big" Parker
with 150 hours on it?

DK August 29th 08 12:39 AM

CAFE standards for boats
 
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................
Some sort of rationing is not a bad idea. It is at least worthy of
serious discussion by the next administration in open forums.



Oh boy. Another small step for man ..... another giant leap towards
Socialism.

Eisboch

Yeah...it got us through World War II at home. Was that what it
was...socialism?


You can't be serious.

Eisboch



He's just not that bright.

[email protected] August 29th 08 12:50 AM

CAFE standards for boats
 
On Aug 28, 6:50*pm, wrote:
On Aug 28, 5:30 pm, Vic Smith wrote:





On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:34:58 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


Hmmm, interesting idea. Perhaps a gas guzzler tax for those whose
boats fail too since boats are ussually luxury
items...........................


Affordable electric boats will be a reality soon for simple inshore
boating use. *Gas will be available, but taxed to keep it expensive.
Gas taxes will mostly subsidize electric.
Electric taxes will begin to subsidize road infrastructure,
Road tollway taxes will subsidize the tourist industry.
Tourist taxes will subsidize....
Uh oh.


--Vic


"Everything should be discussed openly", so why is Obama trying to
legally silence those who ask about his relationship with Bill Ayers,
how open is that? *Can we trust a party that says they want open
discussion and then uses the legal system to silence their
questioners?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Just like the "fairness doctrine". they are not tolerant, they are not
for free speech..


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