On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:07:19 -0400, Jim wrote:

BULL**** SNIPPED

Over time details of events seem to become fuzzy in folks minds. For
instance; Wasn't Hillery over in Rag Head land on a humanitarian fact
finding mission recently? Seems that she recalled bullets flying all
around her. She had some wild memories of that trip. Lies? Lapse of
memory? Harry never commented on her defective reccolector.

Must you keep quoting all 12 pages of ****?

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:32:08 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:07:19 -0400, Jim wrote:

Over time details of events seem to become fuzzy in folks minds. For
instance; Wasn't Hillery over in Rag Head land on a humanitarian fact
finding mission recently? Seems that she recalled bullets flying all
around her. She had some wild memories of that trip. Lies? Lapse of
memory? Harry never commented on her defective reccolector.

Desperation.

Oh - just read this morning that Pelosi is still on message - she's
going to save the planet.

Uh huh....

Thank you, for snipping the crap.

You're truly a blessed, great American.

"Tim" wrote in message
...

So very...

boring


You know, I don't think any of us mere mortals can understand the rigors of
running for a political national office, especially for the POTUS. Given
the countless number of speeches, rallies, questions, travel, etc., over
such a long period of time, I can forgive a few gaffes or story
inconsistencies from both sides. (although I *do* think I'd remember being
shot at upon arrival at an airport).

What concerns me more than anything else ... more than the individuals
running and screw ups they may make in the process .... is the slow but
sure progress being made to transform this country from a free, democratic
republic to democratic socialism.
The roots of this movement can be traced back to people like Eugene Debs

http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h801.html

and continues today, growing strength in numbers. The modern day group,
"Democratic Socialists of America" hosts a number of similar organizations
with more sanitized names, like the "Progressive Caucus" with over 60
Congressional Democrats or other major political figures, including notables
such as Nancy Pelosi and Jesse Jackson.

http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/gov_ph...socialists.htm


I believe we should really stop and think before we continue down this path
to be sure it's what we want or need. If we choose to go this way, it will
be forever the end of the nation that our forefathers envisioned.

Eisboch

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:52:06 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h801.html

An antiwar speech gets a 10 year sentence. I don't think that's what our
forefathers intended.


I believe we should really stop and think before we continue down this
path to be sure it's what we want or need. If we choose to go this
way, it will be forever the end of the nation that our forefathers
envisioned.

Eisboch

Nothing for nothing, but I don't see any references to capitalism in the
Constitution. Private property, yes, but free markets and capitalism
weren't invented yet. So, just how do you know what our forefathers
envisioned.

wrote in message
t...
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:52:06 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h801.html

An antiwar speech gets a 10 year sentence. I don't think that's what our
forefathers intended.


I believe we should really stop and think before we continue down this
path to be sure it's what we want or need. If we choose to go this
way, it will be forever the end of the nation that our forefathers
envisioned.

Eisboch

Nothing for nothing, but I don't see any references to capitalism in the
Constitution. Private property, yes, but free markets and capitalism
weren't invented yet. So, just how do you know what our forefathers
envisioned.


Individual freedom.

Not socialism.

Eisboch

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:44:55 -0400, John H.
salmonremovebait@gmaildotcom wrote:

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:07:19 -0400, Jim wrote:

BULL**** SNIPPED

Over time details of events seem to become fuzzy in folks minds. For
instance; Wasn't Hillery over in Rag Head land on a humanitarian fact
finding mission recently? Seems that she recalled bullets flying all
around her. She had some wild memories of that trip. Lies? Lapse of
memory? Harry never commented on her defective reccolector.

Must you keep quoting all 12 pages of ****?

Bout time someone at this NG snipped something.

Casady

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Tim" wrote in message
...

So very...

boring


You know, I don't think any of us mere mortals can understand the rigors
of running for a political national office, especially for the POTUS.
Given the countless number of speeches, rallies, questions, travel, etc.,
over such a long period of time, I can forgive a few gaffes or story
inconsistencies from both sides. (although I *do* think I'd remember
being shot at upon arrival at an airport).

What concerns me more than anything else ... more than the individuals
running and screw ups they may make in the process .... is the slow but
sure progress being made to transform this country from a free, democratic
republic to democratic socialism.
The roots of this movement can be traced back to people like Eugene Debs

http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h801.html

and continues today, growing strength in numbers. The modern day group,
"Democratic Socialists of America" hosts a number of similar organizations
with more sanitized names, like the "Progressive Caucus" with over 60
Congressional Democrats or other major political figures, including
notables such as Nancy Pelosi and Jesse Jackson.

http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/gov_ph...socialists.htm


I believe we should really stop and think before we continue down this
path to be sure it's what we want or need. If we choose to go this way,
it will be forever the end of the nation that our forefathers envisioned.

Eisboch








Nancy Pelosi. Where have I heard that name before? Oh yes. She is the
speaker of the house of Pelosi.

"John H." salmonremovebait@gmaildotcom wrote in message
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On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:07:19 -0400, Jim wrote:

BULL**** SNIPPED

Over time details of events seem to become fuzzy in folks minds. For
instance; Wasn't Hillery over in Rag Head land on a humanitarian fact
finding mission recently? Seems that she recalled bullets flying all
around her. She had some wild memories of that trip. Lies? Lapse of
memory? Harry never commented on her defective reccolector.

Must you keep quoting all 12 pages of ****?

I'm so very sorry. It's hard to focus on the mission, sometimes. I'll try to
do better.

wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 08:52:06 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h801.html

An antiwar speech gets a 10 year sentence. I don't think that's what our
forefathers intended.


I believe we should really stop and think before we continue down this
path to be sure it's what we want or need. If we choose to go this
way, it will be forever the end of the nation that our forefathers
envisioned.

Eisboch

Nothing for nothing, but I don't see any references to capitalism in the
Constitution. Private property, yes, but free markets and capitalism
weren't invented yet. So, just how do you know what our forefathers
envisioned.

While there were not completely free markets in reference to trade
between countries. It was common to have tariffs on certain items, and
to limit who could import and/or sell certain items, free market pricing
on the majority of items and capitalism absolutely did exist well before
the revolution.

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 09:47:10 -0400, Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall,
Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:


While there were not completely free markets in reference to trade
between countries. It was common to have tariffs on certain items, and
to limit who could import and/or sell certain items, free market pricing
on the majority of items and capitalism absolutely did exist well before
the revolution.

It can be argued that "true" capitalism, still doesn't exist. There have
always been government limits in defining the rules of the market. The
only real arguments we have in this country are in defining those
limits. I mean it is the basic left-right, individual-tribal, paradigm.
I was just questioning Eisboch's forefather's vision. After all, the
majority of the leaders of the Revolution were leftists.