On Aug 22, 11:21*am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 22, 10:35 am, hk wrote:
SmallBoats.com wrote:
With all due respect, and I mean it, You are blind Dick.. It only
works for you and shortpants.. I have tried it, even got to the point
where we exchanged persoanal info. It doesn't work for anybody else..
You are a smart guy, why can't you listen to several of us here who
have pointed out your immunity? I just don't get it..
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:23:18 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message
....
On Aug 21, 12:37 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:I9mdndcnT6SzBTDVnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast .com...
BTW, you are projecting your experience and not considering everyone
else's. I've worked with and for unions since 1971, I think, and have
been
out on dozens and dozens of organizing drives, and been involved in
campaigns that lasted days, weeks, months, and in one case, more than a
year. All manner of employees, too...white collar, blue collar and
mixed,
and not easy work in the sort of anti-worker, anti-union country this
is.
Well, if nothing else, this little exchange has been enlightening. I can
see now where and how many of your beliefs and opinions come from. With
all due respect (and I mean that) I think your experiences has resulted in
a bit of narrow mindedness.
Unions aren't for everybody. In fact, they aren't for most.
Eisboch
But you've got to understand, if Harry thinks they are good, then that
means they are good for everyone, and everyone better damned well get
with the program, just ask him. If you don't agree with him 100%,
he'll start calling you names and telling lies about you.
----------------------------------------------
Doubtful. *Harry gives me the same respect I give him. *Maybe sometimes a
little more.
Try it sometime. *It works.
Eisboch
I'll make you a deal, Scott. You behave as Eisboch typically does here,
and not in your usual ignorant asshole way, and I'll give you the same
respect I give Eisboch.

Richard and I don't agree on a lot of things, especially things
political, but I don't call him names.

Figured it out?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nonsense, read your own proposal here. If I were to accept, I have to
subscribe to your premise that I am an "ignorat asshole" for being
honest and telling true stories.. While you sit here spewing your
constant bull****. Your value system and judgement are ****ed, I am
not going to even try to subscribe to this weeks version of civil..
You kiss the asses of those who enable you, and no one else.. Period.
If I make a post not involving you at all, say about boats, you post
"crappy little boat" threads.. If I tell a true story of hate and
intimidation at the union shop, you call me an idiot, liar, and of
course worse.. You have never meant or kept a deal here, why would
anybody trust you to start now? A couple of posters here that you
don't attack seem to be ok with it, I don't believe they don't see it
however...

I am sure you experienced whatever you claimed to have experienced at
your "union shop." I'm also sure you brought it upon yourself.
Remmember, you are the guy who said you've been tossed down the stairs a
few times by the police. I suspect your behavior is consistent, no?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Listen here you stupid ignoant ****.. I "saw" what happend, it did not
happen to me... But of course you will keep saying it, just to avoid
the facts.. wafa...

On Aug 22, 11:21*am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 22, 10:35 am, hk wrote:
SmallBoats.com wrote:
With all due respect, and I mean it, You are blind Dick.. It only
works for you and shortpants.. I have tried it, even got to the point
where we exchanged persoanal info. It doesn't work for anybody else..
You are a smart guy, why can't you listen to several of us here who
have pointed out your immunity? I just don't get it..
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:23:18 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message
....
On Aug 21, 12:37 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:I9mdndcnT6SzBTDVnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast .com...
BTW, you are projecting your experience and not considering everyone
else's. I've worked with and for unions since 1971, I think, and have
been
out on dozens and dozens of organizing drives, and been involved in
campaigns that lasted days, weeks, months, and in one case, more than a
year. All manner of employees, too...white collar, blue collar and
mixed,
and not easy work in the sort of anti-worker, anti-union country this
is.
Well, if nothing else, this little exchange has been enlightening. I can
see now where and how many of your beliefs and opinions come from. With
all due respect (and I mean that) I think your experiences has resulted in
a bit of narrow mindedness.
Unions aren't for everybody. In fact, they aren't for most.
Eisboch
But you've got to understand, if Harry thinks they are good, then that
means they are good for everyone, and everyone better damned well get
with the program, just ask him. If you don't agree with him 100%,
he'll start calling you names and telling lies about you.
----------------------------------------------
Doubtful. *Harry gives me the same respect I give him. *Maybe sometimes a
little more.
Try it sometime. *It works.
Eisboch
I'll make you a deal, Scott. You behave as Eisboch typically does here,
and not in your usual ignorant asshole way, and I'll give you the same
respect I give Eisboch.

Richard and I don't agree on a lot of things, especially things
political, but I don't call him names.

Figured it out?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nonsense, read your own proposal here. If I were to accept, I have to
subscribe to your premise that I am an "ignorat asshole" for being
honest and telling true stories.. While you sit here spewing your
constant bull****. Your value system and judgement are ****ed, I am
not going to even try to subscribe to this weeks version of civil..
You kiss the asses of those who enable you, and no one else.. Period.
If I make a post not involving you at all, say about boats, you post
"crappy little boat" threads.. If I tell a true story of hate and
intimidation at the union shop, you call me an idiot, liar, and of
course worse.. You have never meant or kept a deal here, why would
anybody trust you to start now? A couple of posters here that you
don't attack seem to be ok with it, I don't believe they don't see it
however...

I am sure you experienced whatever you claimed to have experienced at
your "union shop." I'm also sure you brought it upon yourself.
Remmember, you are the guy who said you've been tossed down the stairs a
few times by the police. I suspect your behavior is consistent, no?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This kind of outright lie is why only you and Dick can talk about this
stuff. To the rest of us, the conversation is useless ..

wrote:
On Aug 22, 11:21 am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 22, 10:35 am, hk wrote:
SmallBoats.com wrote:
With all due respect, and I mean it, You are blind Dick.. It only
works for you and shortpants.. I have tried it, even got to the point
where we exchanged persoanal info. It doesn't work for anybody else..
You are a smart guy, why can't you listen to several of us here who
have pointed out your immunity? I just don't get it..
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:23:18 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Aug 21, 12:37 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
BTW, you are projecting your experience and not considering everyone
else's. I've worked with and for unions since 1971, I think, and have
been
out on dozens and dozens of organizing drives, and been involved in
campaigns that lasted days, weeks, months, and in one case, more than a
year. All manner of employees, too...white collar, blue collar and
mixed,
and not easy work in the sort of anti-worker, anti-union country this
is.
Well, if nothing else, this little exchange has been enlightening. I can
see now where and how many of your beliefs and opinions come from. With
all due respect (and I mean that) I think your experiences has resulted in
a bit of narrow mindedness.
Unions aren't for everybody. In fact, they aren't for most.
Eisboch
But you've got to understand, if Harry thinks they are good, then that
means they are good for everyone, and everyone better damned well get
with the program, just ask him. If you don't agree with him 100%,
he'll start calling you names and telling lies about you.
----------------------------------------------
Doubtful. Harry gives me the same respect I give him. Maybe sometimes a
little more.
Try it sometime. It works.
Eisboch
I'll make you a deal, Scott. You behave as Eisboch typically does here,
and not in your usual ignorant asshole way, and I'll give you the same
respect I give Eisboch.
Richard and I don't agree on a lot of things, especially things
political, but I don't call him names.
Figured it out?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Nonsense, read your own proposal here. If I were to accept, I have to
subscribe to your premise that I am an "ignorat asshole" for being
honest and telling true stories.. While you sit here spewing your
constant bull****. Your value system and judgement are ****ed, I am
not going to even try to subscribe to this weeks version of civil..
You kiss the asses of those who enable you, and no one else.. Period.
If I make a post not involving you at all, say about boats, you post
"crappy little boat" threads.. If I tell a true story of hate and
intimidation at the union shop, you call me an idiot, liar, and of
course worse.. You have never meant or kept a deal here, why would
anybody trust you to start now? A couple of posters here that you
don't attack seem to be ok with it, I don't believe they don't see it
however...
I am sure you experienced whatever you claimed to have experienced at
your "union shop." I'm also sure you brought it upon yourself.
Remmember, you are the guy who said you've been tossed down the stairs a
few times by the police. I suspect your behavior is consistent, no?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This kind of outright lie is why only you and Dick can talk about this
stuff. To the rest of us, the conversation is useless ..


What outright lie? I recall you stating the police had tossed you down
the stairs. I don't recall what problems you had with your "union shop,"
nor do I care. Everyone has had "problems" sometime in life. Most of us
get over them and move on.

On Aug 22, 11:28*am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 22, 11:21 am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 22, 10:35 am, hk wrote:
SmallBoats.com wrote:
With all due respect, and I mean it, You are blind Dick.. It only
works for you and shortpants.. I have tried it, even got to the point
where we exchanged persoanal info. It doesn't work for anybody else...
You are a smart guy, why can't you listen to several of us here who
have pointed out your immunity? I just don't get it..
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:23:18 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Aug 21, 12:37 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:I9mdndcnT6SzBTDVnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comca st.com...
BTW, you are projecting your experience and not considering everyone
else's. I've worked with and for unions since 1971, I think, and have
been
out on dozens and dozens of organizing drives, and been involved in
campaigns that lasted days, weeks, months, and in one case, more than a
year. All manner of employees, too...white collar, blue collar and
mixed,
and not easy work in the sort of anti-worker, anti-union country this
is.
Well, if nothing else, this little exchange has been enlightening.. I can
see now where and how many of your beliefs and opinions come from.. With
all due respect (and I mean that) I think your experiences has resulted in
a bit of narrow mindedness.
Unions aren't for everybody. In fact, they aren't for most.
Eisboch
But you've got to understand, if Harry thinks they are good, then that
means they are good for everyone, and everyone better damned well get
with the program, just ask him. If you don't agree with him 100%,
he'll start calling you names and telling lies about you.
----------------------------------------------
Doubtful. *Harry gives me the same respect I give him. *Maybe sometimes a
little more.
Try it sometime. *It works.
Eisboch
I'll make you a deal, Scott. You behave as Eisboch typically does here,
and not in your usual ignorant asshole way, and I'll give you the same
respect I give Eisboch.
Richard and I don't agree on a lot of things, especially things
political, but I don't call him names.
Figured it out?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Nonsense, read your own proposal here. If I were to accept, I have to
subscribe to your premise that I am an "ignorat asshole" for being
honest and telling true stories.. While you sit here spewing your
constant bull****. Your value system and judgement are ****ed, I am
not going to even try to subscribe to this weeks version of civil..
You kiss the asses of those who enable you, and no one else.. Period.
If I make a post not involving you at all, say about boats, you post
"crappy little boat" threads.. If I tell a true story of hate and
intimidation at the union shop, you call me an idiot, liar, and of
course worse.. You have never meant or kept a deal here, why would
anybody trust you to start now? A couple of posters here that you
don't attack seem to be ok with it, I don't believe they don't see it
however...
I am sure you experienced whatever you claimed to have experienced at
your "union shop." I'm also sure you brought it upon yourself.
Remmember, you are the guy who said you've been tossed down the stairs a
few times by the police. I suspect your behavior is consistent, no?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

This kind of outright lie is why only you and Dick can talk about this
stuff. To the rest of us, the conversation is useless ..

What outright lie? I recall you stating the police had tossed you down
the stairs. I don't recall what problems you had with your "union shop,"
nor do I care. Everyone has had "problems" sometime in life. Most of us
get over them and move on.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nope, they shoved, I caught myself.. This is why nobody else can get
into your conversations, you can't be honest about anything..

wrote:
On Aug 22, 11:28 am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 22, 11:21 am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Aug 22, 10:35 am, hk wrote:
SmallBoats.com wrote:
With all due respect, and I mean it, You are blind Dick.. It only
works for you and shortpants.. I have tried it, even got to the point
where we exchanged persoanal info. It doesn't work for anybody else..
You are a smart guy, why can't you listen to several of us here who
have pointed out your immunity? I just don't get it..
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:23:18 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Aug 21, 12:37 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
BTW, you are projecting your experience and not considering everyone
else's. I've worked with and for unions since 1971, I think, and have
been
out on dozens and dozens of organizing drives, and been involved in
campaigns that lasted days, weeks, months, and in one case, more than a
year. All manner of employees, too...white collar, blue collar and
mixed,
and not easy work in the sort of anti-worker, anti-union country this
is.
Well, if nothing else, this little exchange has been enlightening. I can
see now where and how many of your beliefs and opinions come from. With
all due respect (and I mean that) I think your experiences has resulted in
a bit of narrow mindedness.
Unions aren't for everybody. In fact, they aren't for most.
Eisboch
But you've got to understand, if Harry thinks they are good, then that
means they are good for everyone, and everyone better damned well get
with the program, just ask him. If you don't agree with him 100%,
he'll start calling you names and telling lies about you.
----------------------------------------------
Doubtful. Harry gives me the same respect I give him. Maybe sometimes a
little more.
Try it sometime. It works.
Eisboch
I'll make you a deal, Scott. You behave as Eisboch typically does here,
and not in your usual ignorant asshole way, and I'll give you the same
respect I give Eisboch.
Richard and I don't agree on a lot of things, especially things
political, but I don't call him names.
Figured it out?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Nonsense, read your own proposal here. If I were to accept, I have to
subscribe to your premise that I am an "ignorat asshole" for being
honest and telling true stories.. While you sit here spewing your
constant bull****. Your value system and judgement are ****ed, I am
not going to even try to subscribe to this weeks version of civil..
You kiss the asses of those who enable you, and no one else.. Period.
If I make a post not involving you at all, say about boats, you post
"crappy little boat" threads.. If I tell a true story of hate and
intimidation at the union shop, you call me an idiot, liar, and of
course worse.. You have never meant or kept a deal here, why would
anybody trust you to start now? A couple of posters here that you
don't attack seem to be ok with it, I don't believe they don't see it
however...
I am sure you experienced whatever you claimed to have experienced at
your "union shop." I'm also sure you brought it upon yourself.
Remmember, you are the guy who said you've been tossed down the stairs a
few times by the police. I suspect your behavior is consistent, no?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
This kind of outright lie is why only you and Dick can talk about this
stuff. To the rest of us, the conversation is useless ..
What outright lie? I recall you stating the police had tossed you down
the stairs. I don't recall what problems you had with your "union shop,"
nor do I care. Everyone has had "problems" sometime in life. Most of us
get over them and move on.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nope, they shoved, I caught myself.. This is why nobody else can get
into your conversations, you can't be honest about anything..


Oh. The police shoved you. I see. Well, then, I apologize.

Oh. What were you doing when the police decided it was necessary to
shove you?

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:10:50 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Aug 22, 11:28*am, hk wrote:
wrote:

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This kind of outright lie is why only you and Dick can talk about this
stuff. To the rest of us, the conversation is useless ..

What outright lie? I recall you stating the police had tossed you down
the stairs. I don't recall what problems you had with your "union shop,"
nor do I care. Everyone has had "problems" sometime in life. Most of us
get over them and move on.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nope, they shoved, I caught myself.. This is why nobody else can get
into your conversations, you can't be honest about anything..

Why try?

On Aug 22, 12:45*pm, John H. salmonremovebait@gmaildotcom wrote:
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:10:50 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Aug 22, 11:28*am, hk wrote:
wrote:

snipped



This kind of outright lie is why only you and Dick can talk about this
stuff. To the rest of us, the conversation is useless ..

What outright lie? I recall you stating the police had tossed you down
the stairs. I don't recall what problems you had with your "union shop,"
nor do I care. Everyone has had "problems" sometime in life. Most of us
get over them and move on.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Nope, they shoved, I caught myself.. This is why nobody else can get
into your conversations, you can't be honest about anything..

Why try?

Because I represent my business here and when he makes up deliberate
lies, distortions, and insinuations about me, someone needs to clear
it up. I come here to learn and talk about what I have learned.. Take
the wood boat thread for instance.. I have a lot to learn there, but
was pretty much unable to participate having to defend wafa's
continuous distortions. This is not productive, I gotta' go..

wrote:


Nope, they shoved, I caught myself.. This is why nobody else can get
into your conversations, you can't be honest about anything..

A pending subpoena will soon rectify that - forever.