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WHO'S LIABLE IF I DO GET HIT?
On Aug 21, 11:18 am, "
wrote: On Aug 20, 1:36 pm, KingOfTheApes wrote: The question is, WHO'S LIABLE IF I DO GET HIT? Don't know, but we're all going to chip in and buy him a beer. Steve You must one of those who celebrate the Law of the Jungle. I bet you got one of those bumper stickers that say, "We support our troops." |
#22
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Why the Law of the Sea has to be the Law of the Jungle?
On Aug 19, 3:43*pm, Morten Reistad wrote:
In article , Two meter troll wrote: On Aug 15, 7:21 am, ComandanteBanana wrote: On Aug 15, 3:20 am, Two meter troll wrote: Hey, where's the real place with humans, Alaska, Scandinavia? any place where you get actual sailors. I worked the gulf for a while and was on the whole unimpressed. what i observed was a total lack of licensing, no familiarity with either inland or international rules of the road, skill levels in boat handling and navigations somewhere around those of a brain damaged squid, drunkenness at the helm, no enforcement at all, trash all over the place, a disregard for every one else on or in the water, and an over whelming attitude that folks don't actually have to follow any rules. * In short; Bubbas (I cant actually think of anything that acts as slovenly and boorish as the majority of southern boaters). In Scandinavia the greater Oslo Fjord area is like this. Sheltered waters, lots of yuppies with daddys gofast-boat; as you call them ; "bubbas" with cabin cruisers, and rich drunkards with cigar boats. The first day of main holiday you can barely get through on the VHF ch 16 because of all the disaster messages. Fortunatly, the vast majority of damage is self-inflicted. [1] When I was in Norway in 2000 everything looked good and unpolluted, but I noticed you were being fed too many American TV shows. I guess what happened is that some people bought into the "American dream" (those who could afford it anyway), and started doing like in the series "Miami Vice." But I assure you, that those cigarette boats do pollute, and leave a trail of garbage while terrorizing kayakers and other civilized people. |
#23
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WHO'S LIABLE IF I DO GET HIT?
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, KingOfTheApes wrote: On Aug 21, 11:18 am, " wrote: On Aug 20, 1:36 pm, KingOfTheApes wrote: The question is, WHO'S LIABLE IF I DO GET HIT? Don't know, but we're all going to chip in and buy him a beer. Steve You must one of those who celebrate the Law of the Jungle. I bet you got one of those bumper stickers that say, "We support our troops." At least they don't whine at extended, exhaustive length, looking for someone else to blame. |
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fast motorboats sound to me like WMDs
On Aug 21, 2:10*pm, Steve Hix
wrote: In article , *KingOfTheApes wrote: On Aug 21, 11:18 am, " wrote: On Aug 20, 1:36 pm, KingOfTheApes wrote: The question is, WHO'S LIABLE IF I DO GET HIT? Don't know, but we're all going to chip in and buy him a beer. Steve You must one of those who celebrate the Law of the Jungle. I bet you got one of those bumper stickers that say, "We support our troops." At least they don't whine at extended, exhaustive length, looking for someone else to blame. They do blame somebody else: Hussein, WMDs, terrorists... But I'm talking about the safety of those very activities (green, healthy) that should be promoted, not be left to the Law of the Jungle. Hey, fast motorboats sound to me like WMDs. |
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how best to survive out there
(This is a contribution by the very same person who sold me the last
kayak. Reporting from the watery jungle) Flex 029 wrote: hi folks, first time here .. met Sr. Commandate Banana at my shop .. one way of dealing with this problem is to NOT paddle in these areas on weekends. when i go on any given week-DAY, there’s usually nobody around - EXCEPT for all that damn trash~ Howdy Flex, good to see you here so we can discuss how best to survive out there. I totally agree with you, and in fact I stay away from the waterways on weekends. The weekends belong to the predators, so to speak. I also canoe at night (which you told me you do too), which not makes for far fewer motorboats, but also hides the mountains of trash (yes, including batteries and mattresses) left behind by the said motorboats. (I have a bright kayak for daylight, and camouflage canoe with proper lights for night time.) As you know, the beautiful kayak I’ve got from you is as bright as sunrise (that’s the color), as well as the lights and flag I’m getting from you. So if the superfast, superbig boats don’t see me is because their drivers (I deny them “captain” status) are superdrunk and superhigh. Hey, we’ve developed the same strategy for survival! Actually it was developed by the early mammals at the time the dinosaurs ruled the earth. That’s kind of metaphorical, isn’t it? |
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WHO'S LIABLE IF I DO GET HIT?
wpns4l wrote:
"this thread is crazy lol. stories of lions and the jungle. do yourself a favor and carry a hand held uhf radio or something and if you see people, motorboat or not, acting like asses call the police/ coast guard." Hey, you seem to be ready for “the jungle” in that picture. Either you have big guns… or have a banana to go in there (I have to tell the metaphorical meaning of it). Anyway, I do carry a cell phone, and I assume they don’t see me. But I’m not sure that’s good or bad because then I get all stressed out over the damn boats, and it defeats the purpose of the kayak, which is to relax. In other words, I ignore them. So, I go back to one of the favorite slogans of the revolution, “Whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger.” |
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how best to survive out there
I also canoe at night (which you told me you do too), which not makes
for far fewer motorboats, but also hides the mountains of trash (yes, including batteries and mattresses) left behind by the said motorboats. (I have a bright kayak for daylight, and camouflage canoe with proper lights for night time.) In all my years of boating and kayaking, I've never, ever seen a battery floating by. As far as I know, boaters aren't really well known for dumping their mattresses in the water either. Perhaps you'd like to explain why you crossposted your complaints about boaters in the Intracoastal to rec.scuba and a UK group, all of whom are extremely unlikely to even know what the Intracoastal is, let alone care about boats in it. Lee |
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fast motorboats sound to me like WMDs
Hey, fast motorboats sound to me like WMDs.
BFD. I kids bicycle probably sounds like them to you too. |
#29
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how best to survive out there
In rec.boats.paddle Lee Bell wrote:
I also canoe at night (which you told me you do too), which not makes for far fewer motorboats, but also hides the mountains of trash (yes, including batteries and mattresses) left behind by the said motorboats. (I have a bright kayak for daylight, and camouflage canoe with proper lights for night time.) In all my years of boating and kayaking, I've never, ever seen a battery floating by. As far as I know, boaters aren't really well known for dumping their mattresses in the water either. Perhaps you'd like to explain why you crossposted your complaints about boaters in the Intracoastal to rec.scuba and a UK group, all of whom are extremely unlikely to even know what the Intracoastal is, let alone care about boats in it. We have a canal here called the I&M canal. Around 1996 a dam rupture caused the canal to drain exposing all sorts of stuff. We were on the bike trail the following weekend and were looking at all the recliners, washing machines and stuff in the canal. The canal is only open to canoes and kayaks and I don't think many canoeists or kayakers were taking washing machines or recliners in their boats... course, I could be wrong... Most of the larger garbage was concentrated near bridges... -- John Nelson ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chicago Area Paddling/Fishing Page http://www.chicagopaddling.org http://www.chicagofishing.org (A Non-Commercial Web Site: No Sponsors, No Paid Ads and Nothing to Sell) |
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WHO'S LIABLE IF I DO GET HIT?
On Aug 22, 12:37 pm, "Lee Bell" wrote:
I also canoe at night (which you told me you do too), which not makes for far fewer motorboats, but also hides the mountains of trash (yes, including batteries and mattresses) left behind by the said motorboats. (I have a bright kayak for daylight, and camouflage canoe with proper lights for night time.) In all my years of boating and kayaking, I've never, ever seen a battery floating by. As far as I know, boaters aren't really well known for dumping their mattresses in the water either. Well, there are islands on the water and the batteries are left behind on the islands. It would be mighty difficult to leave piles of garbage on the water, even if they tried. Perhaps you'd like to explain why you crossposted your complaints about boaters in the Intracoastal to rec.scuba and a UK group, all of whom are extremely unlikely to even know what the Intracoastal is, let alone care about boats in it. Lee Well, maybe they heard of the coral reefs in the tropical waters of the Caribbean dying because of all the pollution and motorboats that anchor in the wrong places. By the way, do you have many coral reefs in the UK? |
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