Some 'Performance' Stats for new Parker 34-footer...
 

Eisboch wrote:
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The following performance data was provided by Yamaha.
Performance will vary depending on conditions and load.

Minimum speed is too fast for tuna.

Eisboch

Uh...that's not minimum speed...that's the speed at 1000 rpm. :)

The F350's have a trolling throttle controller, +/- 50 rpm increments
(600 - 1000 rpm range) via the Command Link System.

My F150 runs just fine at 600 rpm, and according to my gps, I can power
the boat forward in still water at under one mph if I want. I assume
most modern outboards can run real slow, except maybe some of the two
stroke engines.


I know. Just trying to be a wise ass.
The Egg Harbor we had couldn't troll slow enough for tuna with both
engines running and in gear. It didn't have trolling valves, so I often
had to let one engine idle in neutral and use the other for the *magic*
tuna trolling speed of about 3 kts.

Eisboch

Hmmmm. I used to troll my tuna spreads at five to 10 mph for yellowfin and
blackfin tuna.




And you never got a hit, did ya?

Way too fast.

Eisboch




Found a bunch of hits on trolling speeds for tuna.
HEre's one:

http://eatmelures.com/trolling-tips


Most recommend the speeds I mentioned.

Sorry.

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Some 'Performance' Stats for new Parker 34-footer...
 

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
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Eisboch wrote:
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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The following performance data was provided by Yamaha.
Performance will vary depending on conditions and load.

Minimum speed is too fast for tuna.

Eisboch

Uh...that's not minimum speed...that's the speed at 1000 rpm. :)

The F350's have a trolling throttle controller, +/- 50 rpm
increments (600 - 1000 rpm range) via the Command Link System.

My F150 runs just fine at 600 rpm, and according to my gps, I can
power the boat forward in still water at under one mph if I want. I
assume most modern outboards can run real slow, except maybe some
of the two stroke engines.


I know. Just trying to be a wise ass.
The Egg Harbor we had couldn't troll slow enough for tuna with both
engines running and in gear. It didn't have trolling valves, so I
often had to let one engine idle in neutral and use the other for
the *magic* tuna trolling speed of about 3 kts.

Eisboch

Hmmmm. I used to troll my tuna spreads at five to 10 mph for
yellowfin and blackfin tuna.




And you never got a hit, did ya?

Way too fast.

Eisboch


Caught lots of yellowfin, not so many blackfin, but did catch some of
the latter. That's the speed range the entire "fleet" off NE Florida
trolled for yellowfin and blackfin. And I noticed on several of Tred
Barta's tv shows, he's trolling for tuna at at least the speeds I
mentioned. I suppose I could find some "expert" mentioned those speeds
on a legit site somewhere...if I looked.




"Fishing For Yellowfin Tuna

Yellowfin fishing can start as early as late May depending on
water temperature. Late June is more typical. Locally, They are most
likely to show up first along the edge of Norfolk, Washington or Poor
Man's canyon. Anglers may find success with a variety of daisy chains,
artificial squid, spreader bars, small bullet shaped lures or rigged
baits such as ballyhoo.

I like to fish for them right on the drop from 300 to 600 feet.
Most early season bites that I have experienced have been from 7 or 8 am
till about 10 am. Arriving later is typically a waste this time of year.
I like to leave the dock about 4:30 for this early season fishing.

*** Preferred lures include spreader bars, daisy chains of
artificial squid and the basic ballyhoo/sea witch or ballyhoo/feather
jig combinations. Trolling speeds are usualy 5.5 - 7 knots, depending on
the boat and sea condtions. ***




http://www.daybreakfishing.com/Yellowfin-Tuna.html


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Some 'Performance' Stats for new Parker 34-footer...
 

On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:25:39 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Hmmmm. I used to troll my tuna spreads at five to 10 mph for yellowfin and
blackfin tuna.

And you never got a hit, did ya?

Way too fast.

I don't mean to dispute this - I don't have a HUGE amount of
experience with black and yellow fin, but these two fish like higher
speeds when trolling - 6 to 9 knot range and I've had some success
with albies using the same speeds.

I haven't done much bluefin fishing, but I always thought that the 6
to 9 knot range when they are near the surface was appropriate.

Deep trolling, I would agree with you.

Some 'Performance' Stats for new Parker 34-footer...
 

"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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The following performance data was provided by Yamaha.
Performance will vary depending on conditions and load.

Minimum speed is too fast for tuna.

Eisboch

Uh...that's not minimum speed...that's the speed at 1000 rpm. :)

The F350's have a trolling throttle controller, +/- 50 rpm increments
(600 - 1000 rpm range) via the Command Link System.

My F150 runs just fine at 600 rpm, and according to my gps, I can
power the boat forward in still water at under one mph if I want. I
assume most modern outboards can run real slow, except maybe some of
the two stroke engines.


I know. Just trying to be a wise ass.
The Egg Harbor we had couldn't troll slow enough for tuna with both
engines running and in gear. It didn't have trolling valves, so I
often had to let one engine idle in neutral and use the other for the
*magic* tuna trolling speed of about 3 kts.

Eisboch

Hmmmm. I used to troll my tuna spreads at five to 10 mph for yellowfin
and blackfin tuna.




And you never got a hit, did ya?

Way too fast.

Eisboch

Caught lots of yellowfin, not so many blackfin, but did catch some of the
latter. That's the speed range the entire "fleet" off NE Florida trolled
for yellowfin and blackfin. And I noticed on several of Tred Barta's tv
shows, he's trolling for tuna at at least the speeds I mentioned. I
suppose I could find some "expert" mentioned those speeds on a legit site
somewhere...if I looked.


Oh. Those are the high performance, southern tuna.
I am talking about the lazy fat ones up here.

Eisboch

Some 'Performance' Stats for new Parker 34-footer...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:25:39 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Hmmmm. I used to troll my tuna spreads at five to 10 mph for yellowfin
and
blackfin tuna.

And you never got a hit, did ya?

Way too fast.

I don't mean to dispute this - I don't have a HUGE amount of
experience with black and yellow fin, but these two fish like higher
speeds when trolling - 6 to 9 knot range and I've had some success
with albies using the same speeds.

I haven't done much bluefin fishing, but I always thought that the 6
to 9 knot range when they are near the surface was appropriate.

Deep trolling, I would agree with you.


Ok. I should be more specific. Trolling with squid rigs in Cape Cod Bay.
My Egg, at idle with both engines in gear, trolled at almost 7 kts. Never
got a hit.

I was told by the local "experts" that I was trolling too fast. Put one
engine in neutral the next time out and "Bam", within 10 minutes hooked up.

Trolling speed was just over 3 kts.

Eisboch

Eisboch

Some 'Performance' Stats for new Parker 34-footer...
 

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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The following performance data was provided by Yamaha.
Performance will vary depending on conditions and load.

Minimum speed is too fast for tuna.

Eisboch
Uh...that's not minimum speed...that's the speed at 1000 rpm. :)

The F350's have a trolling throttle controller, +/- 50 rpm increments
(600 - 1000 rpm range) via the Command Link System.

My F150 runs just fine at 600 rpm, and according to my gps, I can
power the boat forward in still water at under one mph if I want. I
assume most modern outboards can run real slow, except maybe some of
the two stroke engines.

I know. Just trying to be a wise ass.
The Egg Harbor we had couldn't troll slow enough for tuna with both
engines running and in gear. It didn't have trolling valves, so I
often had to let one engine idle in neutral and use the other for the
*magic* tuna trolling speed of about 3 kts.

Eisboch
Hmmmm. I used to troll my tuna spreads at five to 10 mph for yellowfin
and blackfin tuna.



And you never got a hit, did ya?

Way too fast.

Eisboch
Caught lots of yellowfin, not so many blackfin, but did catch some of the
latter. That's the speed range the entire "fleet" off NE Florida trolled
for yellowfin and blackfin. And I noticed on several of Tred Barta's tv
shows, he's trolling for tuna at at least the speeds I mentioned. I
suppose I could find some "expert" mentioned those speeds on a legit site
somewhere...if I looked.


Oh. Those are the high performance, southern tuna.
I am talking about the lazy fat ones up here.

Eisboch



I've never been tuna fishing up your way. But Tred Barta has...or darn
close to where you are.




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Some 'Performance' Stats for new Parker 34-footer...
 

On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:15:11 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Oh. Those are the high performance, southern tuna.
I am talking about the lazy fat ones up here.

ROTFL!!!

Some 'Performance' Stats for new Parker 34-footer...
 

On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:19:37 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Ok. I should be more specific. Trolling with squid rigs in Cape Cod Bay.
My Egg, at idle with both engines in gear, trolled at almost 7 kts. Never
got a hit.

I was told by the local "experts" that I was trolling too fast. Put one
engine in neutral the next time out and "Bam", within 10 minutes hooked up.

Trolling speed was just over 3 kts.

I don't doubt it - I've heard that before.

Never worked for me. Then again, I'm not much for trolling - I prefer
drifting instead.

Some 'Performance' Stats for new Parker 34-footer...
 

Jim wrote:




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There was a bit of interest in specifications and performance for the
new Parker 34 with the twin F350s. This is what will be on the Yamaha
site soon:
http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=o8fhux&s=4

Now *that* was funny!

Some 'Performance' Stats for new Parker 34-footer...
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 18:19:37 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Ok. I should be more specific. Trolling with squid rigs in Cape Cod Bay.
My Egg, at idle with both engines in gear, trolled at almost 7 kts.
Never
got a hit.

I was told by the local "experts" that I was trolling too fast. Put one
engine in neutral the next time out and "Bam", within 10 minutes hooked
up.

Trolling speed was just over 3 kts.

I don't doubt it - I've heard that before.

Never worked for me. Then again, I'm not much for trolling - I prefer
drifting instead.

West Coast fish are more athletic. We troll from 6-10 knots. When looking
for schools. After a school is found, brail some pinhead chovies and hope
the school stays up on top eating. Never have seen spreader bars on the
west coast. Seems as if they would require about 200# test tuna cord to
drag through the seas. We use a lot of Cedar Plugs as well as CD-14 / 15
Rapalas.