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SSmokin July 29th 08 10:22 PM

Can I pull this boat?
 
I have a 2002 Ford F-150. 5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. I’m looking at a
29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? Any thoughts? :o

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John H.[_5_] July 29th 08 10:28 PM

Can I pull this boat?
 
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote:

I have a 2002 Ford F-150. 5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. I’m looking at a
29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? Any thoughts? :o


How much can the truck tow? Should be in the operator's manual. How much
does the boat weigh with trailer and stuff? Should be in the manual.

Compare the numbers.

Do you expect that someone here will know all that?

Short Wave Sportfishing July 29th 08 10:30 PM

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On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote:

I have a 2002 Ford F-150. 5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. I’m looking at a
29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? Any thoughts? :o


In my opinion, no.

I have a 2005 version of that same truck and it will barely tow my
Ranger 20' 200 C center console - boat, engine, trailer weigh in at
just over 5,000 lbs. I get 5 mpg on average over 900 miles of towing
just last week and the average speed was 50 mph.

Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.

[email protected] July 29th 08 10:32 PM

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On Jul 29, 5:22*pm, SSmokin wrote:
I have a 2002 Ford F-150. *5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. *I’m looking at a
29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). *I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? *Any thoughts? *:o

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Might could pull it, but it would never stop it..and that is really
more important..

[email protected] July 29th 08 11:43 PM

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Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.

I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough.



[email protected] July 29th 08 11:47 PM

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Mine could pull it, but it would never stop it..and that is really
more important..

Gawd...anyone pulling that big a boat WITHOUT brakes, is foolish. I
think the trailer will already have brakes on it, so stopping it
would'nt be a problem (except in a " panic " stop)


Eisboch July 30th 08 12:16 AM

Can I pull this boat?
 

wrote in message
...


Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.

I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough.




A 29' boat with a F-150?

Are you serious?

Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing July 30th 08 12:16 AM

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On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:43:45 -0700 (PDT), wrote:



Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.

I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough.


It's not.

Eisboch July 30th 08 12:18 AM

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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

I have a 2002 Ford F-150. 5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. I'm looking at a
29' Cheetah offshore (CX-29). I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? Any thoughts? :o


Other excellent answers notwithstanding, to answer your specific
question, you will have NO trouble pulling the boat out in 4WD Lo
Range......



I am more concerned with "Point A to Point B".

The F-150 is a light weight, light duty truck.

Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing July 30th 08 12:35 AM

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On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:16:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


wrote in message
...


Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.

I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough.


A 29' boat with a F-150?

Are you serious?


He can't be.

DK July 30th 08 12:50 AM

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SSmokin wrote:
I have a 2002 Ford F-150. 5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. I’m looking at a
29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? Any thoughts? :o


If A to B is around the lot you may not trash your tranny. On the road,
forget it. Steep ramp? No way in hell.

[email protected] July 30th 08 12:56 AM

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On Jul 29, 7:50*pm, DK wrote:
SSmokin wrote:
I have a 2002 Ford F-150. *5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. *I’m looking at a
29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). *I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? *Any thoughts? *:o


If A to B is around the lot you may not trash your tranny. *On the road,
forget it. *Steep ramp? *No way in hell.


Personally, I think we have a poster here testing his own security.
Making sure he can't be tracked, with this phony post;) I don't think
anyone is actually considering this for real.. Just a test..

Larry July 30th 08 01:11 AM

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"Eisboch" wrote in
:


wrote in message
...


Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.

I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough.




A 29' boat with a F-150?

Are you serious?

Eisboch




F-150 is a HALF TON pickup.....as in 1000 pounds!

Duhh.....(c;

5 mpg for 900 miles? Yecch! It's almost cheaper to scuttle the damned
boat when you're done with it and buy a new one when you get to the next
place you're going to fish! At $4/gallon that's $720 just to get it home!

"Hey, kid! Here's the keys and title to that nice CC over there. It's
yours. We can't afford to tow it home. Take us fishing when we come back
next year, ok?"


John H.[_5_] July 30th 08 01:17 AM

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On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:56:31 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Jul 29, 7:50*pm, DK wrote:
SSmokin wrote:
I have a 2002 Ford F-150. *5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. *I’m looking at a
29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). *I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? *Any thoughts? *:o


If A to B is around the lot you may not trash your tranny. *On the road,
forget it. *Steep ramp? *No way in hell.


Personally, I think we have a poster here testing his own security.
Making sure he can't be tracked, with this phony post;) I don't think
anyone is actually considering this for real.. Just a test..


Was his name 'J.H. Crist'?

HK July 30th 08 01:24 AM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote:

I have a 2002 Ford F-150. 5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. I’m looking at a
29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? Any thoughts? :o


In my opinion, no.

I have a 2005 version of that same truck and it will barely tow my
Ranger 20' 200 C center console - boat, engine, trailer weigh in at
just over 5,000 lbs. I get 5 mpg on average over 900 miles of towing
just last week and the average speed was 50 mph.

Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.



Hmmm. Apples and oranges, but when I pull Yo Ho, I get about 12 mpg
with my V8 SUV. I think we are pulling about the same weight, too.

Short Wave Sportfishing July 30th 08 01:30 AM

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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:11:16 +0000, Larry wrote:

"Eisboch" wrote in
m:


wrote in message
...


Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.

I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough.




A 29' boat with a F-150?

Are you serious?

Eisboch




F-150 is a HALF TON pickup.....as in 1000 pounds!

Duhh.....(c;

5 mpg for 900 miles? Yecch! It's almost cheaper to scuttle the damned
boat when you're done with it and buy a new one when you get to the next
place you're going to fish! At $4/gallon that's $720 just to get it home!

"Hey, kid! Here's the keys and title to that nice CC over there. It's
yours. We can't afford to tow it home. Take us fishing when we come back
next year, ok?"


Shut the hell up moron.

Short Wave Sportfishing July 30th 08 01:31 AM

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On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:24:25 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote:

I have a 2002 Ford F-150. 5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. I’m looking at a
29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? Any thoughts? :o


In my opinion, no.

I have a 2005 version of that same truck and it will barely tow my
Ranger 20' 200 C center console - boat, engine, trailer weigh in at
just over 5,000 lbs. I get 5 mpg on average over 900 miles of towing
just last week and the average speed was 50 mph.

Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.



Hmmm. Apples and oranges, but when I pull Yo Ho, I get about 12 mpg
with my V8 SUV. I think we are pulling about the same weight, too.


Of course it does.

You are the master.

[email protected] July 30th 08 01:58 AM

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On Jul 29, 7:16*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...



Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.


I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough.


A 29' boat with a F-150?

Are you serious?

Eisboch


Yes. Remember that I " wash the trucks as they come of the
truck" ...remember?
(snarky remark you made discussing
Vipers, and the T-10 Engine)
My Astro Van can pull my 20' tank of a boat, on a twin axle trailer.
It also launches, and recovers it as well.
Are the F-150s you get in the states de-tuned or something? Put your
foot in it.

[email protected] July 30th 08 02:11 AM

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On Jul 29, 7:50*pm, DK wrote:
SSmokin wrote:
I have a 2002 Ford F-150. *5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. *I’m looking at a
29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). *I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? *Any thoughts? *:o


If A to B is around the lot you may not trash your tranny. *On the road,
forget it. *Steep ramp? *No way in hell.


Thats wacked. Again, I pulled my 20' Tank all the way up to Owen Sound
last year with two other guys, all gear, food, beer, etc,etc. and it
only cost me $35 one way.
Its got a V6 in it! What the hells wrong with your Fords " down
there?"
Sounds to me you're either chicken **** to use the truck,
or........its " clapped-out ". I can picture the flapping fenders, and
box full of old barbeques, rotten boat fenders, motor bike parts,
maybe an old stove, as well.
How god dam far would you pull a 29' boat, anyway? I only have to go
12 miles to the ramp.
Would the tower even consider changing tranny fluid more than once
every 5 years?

Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq.[_2_] July 30th 08 02:45 AM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:24:25 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote:

I have a 2002 Ford F-150. 5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. I’m looking at a
29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? Any thoughts? :o
In my opinion, no.

I have a 2005 version of that same truck and it will barely tow my
Ranger 20' 200 C center console - boat, engine, trailer weigh in at
just over 5,000 lbs. I get 5 mpg on average over 900 miles of towing
just last week and the average speed was 50 mph.

Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.


Hmmm. Apples and oranges, but when I pull Yo Ho, I get about 12 mpg
with my V8 SUV. I think we are pulling about the same weight, too.


Of course it does.

You are the master.


If you are only trailering a boat a few miles to the ramp a few times a
year, it is hard to tell what you mpg is.

HK July 30th 08 02:59 AM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:24:25 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote:

I have a 2002 Ford F-150. 5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. I’m looking at a
29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? Any thoughts? :o
In my opinion, no.

I have a 2005 version of that same truck and it will barely tow my
Ranger 20' 200 C center console - boat, engine, trailer weigh in at
just over 5,000 lbs. I get 5 mpg on average over 900 miles of towing
just last week and the average speed was 50 mph.

Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.


Hmmm. Apples and oranges, but when I pull Yo Ho, I get about 12 mpg
with my V8 SUV. I think we are pulling about the same weight, too.


Of course it does.

You are the master.



Well, that's what the gauge sez when I tow, Tom. I'll be glad to
introduce you...you and the gauge can argue over it.

Short Wave Sportfishing July 30th 08 03:04 AM

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On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:58:13 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Jul 29, 7:16*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...



Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.


I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough.


A 29' boat with a F-150?

Are you serious?

Eisboch


Yes. Remember that I " wash the trucks as they come of the
truck" ...remember?
(snarky remark you made discussing
Vipers, and the T-10 Engine)
My Astro Van can pull my 20' tank of a boat, on a twin axle trailer.
It also launches, and recovers it as well.
Are the F-150s you get in the states de-tuned or something? Put your
foot in it.


The Corsair I had I towed from the barn where I found it three miles
with a 500 cc Polaris ATV.

Same boat you have.

That's a REAL heavy boat.

JR North July 30th 08 03:28 AM

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The tow vehicle brake system must be able to stop the rig in a
reasonable distance in the event of trailer brake failure. An F150
brake system is NOT-REPEAT NOT adequate for this setup. Whether or not
it can pull the boat out of the hole (also doubtful) is irrelevant..
Get a real truck. F250 minimum., F350 better.
JR

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote:

I have a 2002 Ford F-150. 5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. I’m looking at a
29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? Any thoughts? :o

HOME PAGE:
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
--------------------------------------------------

[email protected] July 30th 08 03:33 AM

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On Jul 29, 10:28*pm, JR North wrote:
The tow vehicle brake system must be able to stop the rig in a
reasonable distance in the event of trailer brake failure. An F150
brake system is NOT-REPEAT NOT adequate for this setup. Whether or not
it can pull the boat out of the hole (also doubtful) is irrelevant..
Get a real truck. F250 minimum., F350 better.
JR

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote:
I have a 2002 Ford F-150. *5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. *I’m looking at a
29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). *I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? *Any thoughts? *:o


HOME PAGE:http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
--------------------------------------------------


This is a troll of some sort.. If you go over the posts from this guys
history, he says he owns just about everything on wheels, and
everything needs something fixed. There is something really fishy
about it though, Either way, the whole thread is most likely a sham...

HK July 30th 08 03:36 AM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:24:25 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote:

I have a 2002 Ford F-150. 5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. I’m looking at a
29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? Any thoughts? :o
In my opinion, no.

I have a 2005 version of that same truck and it will barely tow my
Ranger 20' 200 C center console - boat, engine, trailer weigh in at
just over 5,000 lbs. I get 5 mpg on average over 900 miles of towing
just last week and the average speed was 50 mph.

Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.


Hmmm. Apples and oranges, but when I pull Yo Ho, I get about 12 mpg
with my V8 SUV. I think we are pulling about the same weight, too.


Of course it does.

You are the master.



I'll be glad to set up a meeting between you and the mileage meter on my
SUV. You can argue with it. The last time I checked the mileage, I
pulled the boat about 35 miles from the dealership down to Solomons,
MD., and except for two miles of shopping center congestion, ran the SUV
at 60 mph.

When you say your "average speed" over 900 miles was 50 mph, you don't
say what your top speed was, or how long you ran at that speed, or what
kind of traffic you might have encountered, et cetera. In other words,
there is so little specificity in your narrative, it is meaningless.

I used to tow a 19-foot SeaPro, a rig just a tad lighter than yours.
Towed it with a Toyota V8 truck. Got around 11 mph at highway towing
speeds.


[email protected] July 30th 08 04:21 AM

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On Jul 29, 10:04*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:58:13 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Jul 29, 7:16*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message


....


Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.


I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough.


A 29' boat with a F-150?


Are you serious?


Eisboch


Yes. Remember that I " wash the trucks as they come of the
truck" ...remember?
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *(snarky remark you made discussing
Vipers, and the T-10 Engine)
My Astro Van can pull my 20' tank of a boat, on a twin axle trailer.
It also launches, and recovers it as well.
Are the F-150s you get in the states de-tuned or something? Put your
foot in it.


The Corsair I had I towed from the barn where I found it three miles
with a 500 cc Polaris ATV.

Same boat you have.

That's a REAL heavy boat.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Havent weighed it yet. That would entail driving 18 miles to the only
truckstop with a public scale that I know about. Since I levelled the
tow height...you hardly know its there.Any idea what the boat and
trailer weighed that you had? Twin axle? V6 Kaiser engine?
Since I re-did the subframes and replaced the waterlogged flooring, I
bet it weighs a " few " pounds less.

[email protected] July 30th 08 04:24 AM

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On Jul 29, 10:28*pm, JR North wrote:
The tow vehicle brake system must be able to stop the rig in a
reasonable distance in the event of trailer brake failure. An F150
brake system is NOT-REPEAT NOT adequate for this setup. Whether or not
it can pull the boat out of the hole (also doubtful) is irrelevant..
Get a real truck. F250 minimum., F350 better.
JR

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote:
I have a 2002 Ford F-150. *5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. *I’m looking at a
29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). *I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? *Any thoughts? *:o


HOME PAGE:http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
--------------------------------------------------


I seriously dont think even a F350 would stop that boat and trailer in
an emergency. With that rig...you'd be " goin' in " in a panic
stop.The tow vehicle would simply slide, even on dry pavement.

[email protected] July 30th 08 04:26 AM

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Either way, the whole thread is most likely a sham...

BUT...it IS on topic.......

Eisboch July 30th 08 06:36 AM

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wrote in message
...
On Jul 29, 7:16 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...



Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.


I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough.


A 29' boat with a F-150?

Are you serious?

Eisboch


Yes. Remember that I " wash the trucks as they come of the
truck" ...remember?
(snarky remark you made discussing
Vipers, and the T-10 Engine)
My Astro Van can pull my 20' tank of a boat, on a twin axle trailer.
It also launches, and recovers it as well.
Are the F-150s you get in the states de-tuned or something? Put your
foot in it.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the engine. It has everything to do
with the suspension, brakes, and rear end ratio. The F-150 is a light duty
truck. I don't know what the 29' boat weighs, but I suspect it is at least
5000 lbs ..... probably more when engine, gas and gear are factored in.
The F 150, although maybe "rated" by Ford to be adequate ... isn't, IMO, for
any long distance, hauling of a boat that size.

Eisboch



Eisboch July 30th 08 06:43 AM

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"JR North" wrote in message
...
The tow vehicle brake system must be able to stop the rig in a
reasonable distance in the event of trailer brake failure. An F150
brake system is NOT-REPEAT NOT adequate for this setup. Whether or not
it can pull the boat out of the hole (also doubtful) is irrelevant..
Get a real truck. F250 minimum., F350 better.
JR

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote:

I have a 2002 Ford F-150. 5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. I'm looking at a
29' Cheetah offshore (CX-29). I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? Any thoughts? :o

HOME PAGE:
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
--------------------------------------------------



Here's the boat this guy wants to tow .....

http://www.cheetahboats.net/cheetah_...icture_211.jpg

If the question is serious .... I still say the F-150 is too light of a duty
truck.



Eisboch



HK July 30th 08 11:10 AM

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wrote:

Either way, the whole thread is most likely a sham...

BUT...it IS on topic.......




Yeah, but wouldn't you much rather read about neglectful parents who
allow their small children to race motorcycles? :) Or maybe golfer
wanna-be's who use rec.boats to shag dates with each other? :) Or, how
about some photos of ordinary-looking grandchildren? :) Or posts from
some schitthead in Atlanta who pimps his son's girlfriend :)

Short Wave Sportfishing July 30th 08 01:08 PM

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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:36:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

It has absolutely nothing to do with the engine. It has everything to do
with the suspension, brakes, and rear end ratio. The F-150 is a light duty
truck. I don't know what the 29' boat weighs, but I suspect it is at least
5000 lbs ..... probably more when engine, gas and gear are factored in.
The F 150, although maybe "rated" by Ford to be adequate ... isn't, IMO, for
any long distance, hauling of a boat that size.


Thank you.

Tim July 30th 08 01:10 PM

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On Jul 30, 12:36 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Jul 29, 7:16 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:

wrote in message


...


Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.


I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough.


A 29' boat with a F-150?


Are you serious?


Eisboch


Yes. Remember that I " wash the trucks as they come of the
truck" ...remember?
(snarky remark you made discussing
Vipers, and the T-10 Engine)
My Astro Van can pull my 20' tank of a boat, on a twin axle trailer.
It also launches, and recovers it as well.
Are the F-150s you get in the states de-tuned or something? Put your
foot in it.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the engine. It has everything to do
with the suspension, brakes, and rear end ratio. The F-150 is a light duty
truck. I don't know what the 29' boat weighs, but I suspect it is at least
5000 lbs ..... probably more when engine, gas and gear are factored in.
The F 150, although maybe "rated" by Ford to be adequate ... isn't, IMO, for
any long distance, hauling of a boat that size.

Eisboch


I pull a 23 ft. Marquis cuddy on a dual axle trailer with a 1990 Merc.
Colony Park Station wagon. fuel enjected 302 (5.0). The trailer has
good hydrological surge brakes.

I won't say that it's all it can do to pull the boat but it's enough
for it. Shifting out of OD and no air, it will pull the boat at 50-55,
but yes, it sucks plenty of gas, I would say that at 50mph it will
possibly get 8, maybe 10 mpg....*maybe*

I would say that your f-150 WILL pull that 29 footer, but
conveniently? No, and economically, HECK NO!

Tim July 30th 08 01:13 PM

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On Jul 30, 12:43 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"JR North" wrote in message

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The tow vehicle brake system must be able to stop the rig in a
reasonable distance in the event of trailer brake failure. An F150
brake system is NOT-REPEAT NOT adequate for this setup. Whether or not
it can pull the boat out of the hole (also doubtful) is irrelevant..
Get a real truck. F250 minimum., F350 better.
JR


On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote:


I have a 2002 Ford F-150. 5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. I'm looking at a
29' Cheetah offshore (CX-29). I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? Any thoughts? :o

HOME PAGE:
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
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Here's the boat this guy wants to tow .....

http://www.cheetahboats.net/cheetah_...icture_211.jpg

If the question is serious .... I still say the F-150 is too light of a duty
truck.

Eisboch


Yep.

They need a bigger truck!

HK July 30th 08 01:17 PM

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Tim wrote:
On Jul 30, 12:43 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"JR North" wrote in message

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The tow vehicle brake system must be able to stop the rig in a
reasonable distance in the event of trailer brake failure. An F150
brake system is NOT-REPEAT NOT adequate for this setup. Whether or not
it can pull the boat out of the hole (also doubtful) is irrelevant..
Get a real truck. F250 minimum., F350 better.
JR
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote:
I have a 2002 Ford F-150. 5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. I'm looking at a
29' Cheetah offshore (CX-29). I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? Any thoughts? :o
HOME PAGE:
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
--------------------------------------------------

Here's the boat this guy wants to tow .....

http://www.cheetahboats.net/cheetah_...icture_211.jpg

If the question is serious .... I still say the F-150 is too light of a duty
truck.

Eisboch


Yep.

They need a bigger truck!



You gotta be outa your mind these days to even consider buying one of
those "penis boats," let alone be thinking of trailering it.

Short Wave Sportfishing July 30th 08 01:28 PM

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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:10:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jul 30, 12:36 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

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On Jul 29, 7:16 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:

wrote in message


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Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.


I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough.


A 29' boat with a F-150?


Are you serious?


Eisboch


Yes. Remember that I " wash the trucks as they come of the
truck" ...remember?
(snarky remark you made discussing
Vipers, and the T-10 Engine)
My Astro Van can pull my 20' tank of a boat, on a twin axle trailer.
It also launches, and recovers it as well.
Are the F-150s you get in the states de-tuned or something? Put your
foot in it.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the engine. It has everything to do
with the suspension, brakes, and rear end ratio. The F-150 is a light duty
truck. I don't know what the 29' boat weighs, but I suspect it is at least
5000 lbs ..... probably more when engine, gas and gear are factored in.
The F 150, although maybe "rated" by Ford to be adequate ... isn't, IMO, for
any long distance, hauling of a boat that size.

Eisboch


I pull a 23 ft. Marquis cuddy on a dual axle trailer with a 1990 Merc.
Colony Park Station wagon. fuel enjected 302 (5.0). The trailer has
good hydrological surge brakes.

I won't say that it's all it can do to pull the boat but it's enough
for it. Shifting out of OD and no air, it will pull the boat at 50-55,
but yes, it sucks plenty of gas, I would say that at 50mph it will
possibly get 8, maybe 10 mpg....*maybe*

I would say that your f-150 WILL pull that 29 footer, but
conveniently? No, and economically, HECK NO!


Mine will pull it - the question is safely.

Everybody has pretty much hit on the main points including braking,
but the 5.4 is so emissions laden that it has no power at all - none.

Biggest mistakek I made was buying that truck.


[email protected] July 30th 08 02:03 PM

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On Jul 29, 7:35*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:16:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

wrote in message
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Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.


I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough.


A 29' boat with a F-150?


Are you serious?


He can't be.


Oh, he can be! You've not seen some of his other gems!!!

[email protected] July 30th 08 02:05 PM

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On Jul 29, 9:59*pm, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:24:25 -0400, HK wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote:


I have a 2002 Ford F-150. *5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. *I’m looking at a
29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). *I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? *Any thoughts? *:o
In my opinion, no.


I have a 2005 version of that same truck and it will barely tow my
Ranger 20' 200 C center console - boat, engine, trailer weigh in at
just over 5,000 lbs. *I get 5 mpg on average over 900 miles of towing
just last week and the average speed was 50 mph.


Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.


Hmmm. Apples and oranges, but when *I pull Yo Ho, I get about 12 mpg
with my V8 SUV. I think we are pulling about the same weight, too.


Of *course it does.


You are the master.


Well, that's what the gauge sez when I tow, Tom. I'll be glad to
introduce you...you and the gauge can argue over it.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


How about when you tow your lobster boat, liar?

Wayne.B July 30th 08 03:36 PM

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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:31:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I have a 2005 version of that same truck and it will barely tow my
Ranger 20' 200 C center console - boat, engine, trailer weigh in at
just over 5,000 lbs. I get 5 mpg on average over 900 miles of towing
just last week and the average speed was 50 mph.

Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.



Hmmm. Apples and oranges, but when I pull Yo Ho, I get about 12 mpg
with my V8 SUV. I think we are pulling about the same weight, too.


Of course it does.

You are the master.


My old 24 ft cuddy cabin runabout weighed a little over 5,000 lbs,
6300 lbs with aluminum trailer. We trailered it 1400 miles from CT to
FL behind my 4.7L V8 Tundra, averaging 9 mph at interstate highway
speeds of 65 to 70 mph.


Wayne.B July 30th 08 03:44 PM

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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:43:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Here's the boat this guy wants to tow .....

http://www.cheetahboats.net/cheetah_...icture_211.jpg

If the question is serious .... I still say the F-150 is too light of a duty
truck.


The real question is how much does the boat and trailer weigh vs the
max tow rating of the truck. That triple axle, steel frame trailer is
not a good start, probably close to 2,000 lbs all by itself. For a
boat to require triple axles probably implies a weight over 6,000
giving us a total somewhere north of 8,000. That's too much for a
light duty truck.



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