On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:28:39 -0700, JR North
wrote:

. Now I get to pull the heads......
Oh well, the engine is 18 years old, has 495 Hrs on it, and with all
that down time, a seized valve is not unusual.

Triple ****.

Oh - whoops. :)

Well, hey, look at it this way - as long as you have the heads off,
look around for cylinder scoring, slop, etc.

Hell, might be time for a new engine. :)

(At least that's what I'd be telling SWMBO) :)

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:44:37 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:28:39 -0700, JR North
wrote:
|
|. Now I get to pull the heads......
|Oh well, the engine is 18 years old, has 495 Hrs on it, and with all
|that down time, a seized valve is not unusual.
|
|Triple ****.
|
|Oh - whoops. :)
|
|Well, hey, look at it this way - as long as you have the heads off,
|look around for cylinder scoring, slop, etc.
|
|Hell, might be time for a new engine. :)
|
|(At least that's what I'd be telling SWMBO) :)

Goal: Plausible Deniability.......

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On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:10:12 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:44:37 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:28:39 -0700, JR North
wrote:
|
|. Now I get to pull the heads......
|Oh well, the engine is 18 years old, has 495 Hrs on it, and with all
|that down time, a seized valve is not unusual.
|
|Triple ****.
|
|Oh - whoops. :)
|
|Well, hey, look at it this way - as long as you have the heads off,
|look around for cylinder scoring, slop, etc.
|
|Hell, might be time for a new engine. :)
|
|(At least that's what I'd be telling SWMBO) :)

Goal: Plausible Deniability.......

Damn straight.

That's how I got my ETEC. :)

A little fudging here, a little truth twisting there - bingo.

New engine. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:10:12 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:44:37 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:28:39 -0700, JR North
wrote:
|
|. Now I get to pull the heads......
|Oh well, the engine is 18 years old, has 495 Hrs on it, and with all
|that down time, a seized valve is not unusual.
|
|Triple ****.
|
|Oh - whoops. :)
|
|Well, hey, look at it this way - as long as you have the heads off,
|look around for cylinder scoring, slop, etc.
|
|Hell, might be time for a new engine. :)
|
|(At least that's what I'd be telling SWMBO) :)

Goal: Plausible Deniability.......

Damn straight.

That's how I got my ETEC. :)

A little fudging here, a little truth twisting there - bingo.

New engine. :)


I thought that eTec was fifth prize in a beauty contest. First prize was
a weekend in Philly.

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:25:57 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:10:12 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:44:37 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:28:39 -0700, JR North
wrote:
|
|. Now I get to pull the heads......
|Oh well, the engine is 18 years old, has 495 Hrs on it, and with all
|that down time, a seized valve is not unusual.
|
|Triple ****.
|
|Oh - whoops. :)
|
|Well, hey, look at it this way - as long as you have the heads off,
|look around for cylinder scoring, slop, etc.
|
|Hell, might be time for a new engine. :)
|
|(At least that's what I'd be telling SWMBO) :)

Goal: Plausible Deniability.......

Damn straight.

That's how I got my ETEC. :)

A little fudging here, a little truth twisting there - bingo.

New engine. :)

I thought that eTec was fifth prize in a beauty contest. First prize was
a weekend in Philly.

Geese 'em pete Harry - that was your prize.

Remember? You won the Parker when you placed First in the "I am a
dork and look like one contest. You had to submit an essay on why you
would look like a dork in a Parker with no transom.

The way you told it, you also got second and third which managed to
get you the Yamaha - by default because nobody else wanted it. :)

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:44:37 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:28:39 -0700, JR North
wrote:

. Now I get to pull the heads......
Oh well, the engine is 18 years old, has 495 Hrs on it, and with all
that down time, a seized valve is not unusual.

Triple ****.

Oh - whoops. :)

Well, hey, look at it this way - as long as you have the heads off,
look around for cylinder scoring, slop, etc.

Hell, might be time for a new engine. :)

(At least that's what I'd be telling SWMBO) :)

Hey, ain't you supposed to be fishing?

--Vic

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:25:11 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:44:37 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:28:39 -0700, JR North
wrote:

. Now I get to pull the heads......
Oh well, the engine is 18 years old, has 495 Hrs on it, and with all
that down time, a seized valve is not unusual.

Triple ****.

Oh - whoops. :)

Well, hey, look at it this way - as long as you have the heads off,
look around for cylinder scoring, slop, etc.

Hell, might be time for a new engine. :)

(At least that's what I'd be telling SWMBO) :)

Hey, ain't you supposed to be fishing?

I was - you wanna make the trip down here and go with? :)

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:09:09 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 14:25:11 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:44:37 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:28:39 -0700, JR North
wrote:

. Now I get to pull the heads......
Oh well, the engine is 18 years old, has 495 Hrs on it, and with all
that down time, a seized valve is not unusual.

Triple ****.

Oh - whoops. :)

Well, hey, look at it this way - as long as you have the heads off,
look around for cylinder scoring, slop, etc.

Hell, might be time for a new engine. :)

(At least that's what I'd be telling SWMBO) :)

Hey, ain't you supposed to be fishing?

I was - you wanna make the trip down here and go with? :)

I'll give you three guesses.
Wait, that's yes/no so you get only two guesses.
I'll make it easier. Yes, and I would if I could.

--Vic

--Vic

On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:28:39 -0700, JR North
wrote:

As you will recall, In our last episode, I was preparing to install the
new starter in my Merc. 5.0. I did a compression test with the old
starter in place, 150 all around. After sitting 2 weeks, the new starter
is in; I cranked it with the plugs out (no manifolds installed yet) And
it spun 3 revolutions with a *Clack* every 360?. I thought in this brief
time that possibly a tooth was sheared on the flywheel ring, but after 3
revolutions the engine locked and would not turn. ****. I was thinking
maybe a socket I had holding the Qjet choke open had somehow fallen into
the intake manifold and wedged an intake valve open. Ok. I put a chain
wrench on the balancer and found I could rotate the engine backwards,
but would lock at the same point forwards. I pulled the valve covers,
expecting to find an offending intake valve hung open, with slop in the
rocker arm as a result. Found it, alright, but an exhaust valve, not
intake. Feeling up the #4 exhaust port with my finger, I can feel the
broken end of the exhaust valve stem. The valve head is loose in the
combustion chamber, preventing the piston from reaching TDC. DOUBLE
****. In the 2 weeks since the compression test, the #4 exhaust valve
seized in the guide, and on cranking, because the valve is at an angle
with the piston, was broken off. Now I get to pull the heads......
Oh well, the engine is 18 years old, has 495 Hrs on it, and with all
that down time, a seized valve is not unusual.
JR

That's weird, since you were cranking it 2 weeks ago.
What do you suppose caused it to seize?
I've never heard of that happening on a 305, but you say that's
not unusual.
I'd like to hear the autopsy report after the stem is driven from the
guide.
This boating stuff is starting to scare me.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 08:28:39 -0700, JR North
wrote:

As you will recall, In our last episode, I was preparing to install the
new starter in my Merc. 5.0. I did a compression test with the old
starter in place, 150 all around. After sitting 2 weeks, the new starter
is in; I cranked it with the plugs out (no manifolds installed yet) And
it spun 3 revolutions with a *Clack* every 360?. I thought in this brief
time that possibly a tooth was sheared on the flywheel ring, but after 3
revolutions the engine locked and would not turn. ****. I was thinking
maybe a socket I had holding the Qjet choke open had somehow fallen into
the intake manifold and wedged an intake valve open. Ok. I put a chain
wrench on the balancer and found I could rotate the engine backwards,
but would lock at the same point forwards. I pulled the valve covers,
expecting to find an offending intake valve hung open, with slop in the
rocker arm as a result. Found it, alright, but an exhaust valve, not
intake. Feeling up the #4 exhaust port with my finger, I can feel the
broken end of the exhaust valve stem. The valve head is loose in the
combustion chamber, preventing the piston from reaching TDC. DOUBLE
****. In the 2 weeks since the compression test, the #4 exhaust valve
seized in the guide, and on cranking, because the valve is at an angle
with the piston, was broken off. Now I get to pull the heads......
Oh well, the engine is 18 years old, has 495 Hrs on it, and with all
that down time, a seized valve is not unusual.
JR

That's weird, since you were cranking it 2 weeks ago.
What do you suppose caused it to seize?
I've never heard of that happening on a 305, but you say that's
not unusual.
I'd like to hear the autopsy report after the stem is driven from the
guide.
This boating stuff is starting to scare me.

--Vic

Salt water in the valve guides.
Rebuilders won't touch heads from sal****er boats.