"HK" wrote in message
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wrote:

You don't speak for any Americans. Whatever he did there does not
matter to most Americans, however the fact that he went there does...
You can not understand, you were not raised with honor or integerity,
that is obvious.


Yada, yada, yada.

There was nothing "honorable" about our nation's massive involvement in
Vietnam. Individuals who went there, willingly or otherwise, may have
acted honorably (or not), but the "mission" itself was a fraud. When the
United States was defending a government against whom Buddhist monks
protested by setting themselves on fire, its mistakes, at long last,
should have become apparent.

At the governmental and military institutional level, our involvement in
Vietnam mostly was an exercise in deception and corruption.

Honorable or not, how do you think your words sound to the Vets that served?

Give it a break.

D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:

You don't speak for any Americans. Whatever he did there does not
matter to most Americans, however the fact that he went there does...
You can not understand, you were not raised with honor or integerity,
that is obvious.

Yada, yada, yada.

There was nothing "honorable" about our nation's massive involvement in
Vietnam. Individuals who went there, willingly or otherwise, may have
acted honorably (or not), but the "mission" itself was a fraud. When the
United States was defending a government against whom Buddhist monks
protested by setting themselves on fire, its mistakes, at long last,
should have become apparent.

At the governmental and military institutional level, our involvement in
Vietnam mostly was an exercise in deception and corruption.

Honorable or not, how do you think your words sound to the Vets that served?

Give it a break.




Read for content, quacker. My comment was about the government of this
nation and its military institutions, not about individual service
personnel.

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:

You don't speak for any Americans. Whatever he did there does not
matter to most Americans, however the fact that he went there does...
You can not understand, you were not raised with honor or integerity,
that is obvious.

Yada, yada, yada.

There was nothing "honorable" about our nation's massive involvement in
Vietnam. Individuals who went there, willingly or otherwise, may have
acted honorably (or not), but the "mission" itself was a fraud. When
the United States was defending a government against whom Buddhist
monks protested by setting themselves on fire, its mistakes, at long
last, should have become apparent.

At the governmental and military institutional level, our involvement
in Vietnam mostly was an exercise in deception and corruption.

Honorable or not, how do you think your words sound to the Vets that
served?

Give it a break.


Read for content, quacker. My comment was about the government of this
nation and its military institutions, not about individual service
personnel.

I understood *exactly*what you wrote. My comment stands.


Harry has a *way* with words. He also assumes everyone interprets them has
he does.
At some point, a gifted writer (or speaker) needs to understand that *that*
isn't necessarily so.

Eisboch

"HK" wrote in message
...
D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:

You don't speak for any Americans. Whatever he did there does not
matter to most Americans, however the fact that he went there does...
You can not understand, you were not raised with honor or integerity,
that is obvious.

Yada, yada, yada.

There was nothing "honorable" about our nation's massive involvement in
Vietnam. Individuals who went there, willingly or otherwise, may have
acted honorably (or not), but the "mission" itself was a fraud. When the
United States was defending a government against whom Buddhist monks
protested by setting themselves on fire, its mistakes, at long last,
should have become apparent.

At the governmental and military institutional level, our involvement in
Vietnam mostly was an exercise in deception and corruption.

Honorable or not, how do you think your words sound to the Vets that
served?

Give it a break.


Read for content, quacker. My comment was about the government of this
nation and its military institutions, not about individual service
personnel.

I understood *exactly*what you wrote. My comment stands.

On Jul 24, 1:50*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message

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"HK" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
wrote:

You don't speak for any Americans. Whatever he did there does not
matter to most Americans, however the fact that he went there does....
You can not understand, you were not raised with honor or integerity,
that is obvious.

Yada, yada, yada.

There was nothing "honorable" about our nation's massive involvement in
Vietnam. Individuals who went there, willingly or otherwise, may have
acted honorably (or not), but the "mission" itself was a fraud. When
the United States was defending a government against whom Buddhist
monks protested by setting themselves on fire, its mistakes, at long
last, should have become apparent.

At the governmental and military institutional level, our involvement
in Vietnam mostly was an exercise in deception and corruption.

Honorable or not, how do you think your words sound to the Vets that
served?

Give it a break.

Read for content, quacker. My comment was about the government of this
nation and its military institutions, not about individual service
personnel.

I understood *exactly*what you wrote. *My comment stands.

Harry has a *way* with words. *He also assumes everyone interprets them has
he does.
At some point, a gifted writer (or speaker) needs to understand that *that*
isn't necessarily so.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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But Harry's neither a writer OR gifted.

HK wrote:
RPS wrote:
HK wrote:
RPS wrote:
HK wrote:


I didn't *avoid* the draft. I was exempted because of a federal
job. Here's something that will make you choke: unless you were a
medic or someone directly involved in the evacuation of wounded
troops, whatever *you* did in Vietnam had a lot less meaning to
Americans compared to what I ended up doing there.

Wow, I love to hear more about this. Was this before you graduated
from College or after you worked for the Kansas newspaper?


I never worked for a Kansas newspaper, schitthead.

by the way, didn't the Kansas City newspaper cover both Kansas and MO
news?



The Washington Post covers news in DC, Maryland and Virginia, among
other places, and has lots of bureaus. That doesn't make the Post a
Maryland or Virginia newspaper.


I do like the way you are tap dancing around the issue about when you
went to VN, you really do it better than anyone. I just find your
timeline of the historic events in the life of Walter Mitty, ehh I mean
Harry Krause, to be inconsistent. It seems like you are forgetting all
of your stories and can't keep them straight.

RPS wrote:
HK wrote:
RPS wrote:
HK wrote:
RPS wrote:
HK wrote:


I didn't *avoid* the draft. I was exempted because of a federal
job. Here's something that will make you choke: unless you were a
medic or someone directly involved in the evacuation of wounded
troops, whatever *you* did in Vietnam had a lot less meaning to
Americans compared to what I ended up doing there.

Wow, I love to hear more about this. Was this before you graduated
from College or after you worked for the Kansas newspaper?


I never worked for a Kansas newspaper, schitthead.

by the way, didn't the Kansas City newspaper cover both Kansas and MO
news?



The Washington Post covers news in DC, Maryland and Virginia, among
other places, and has lots of bureaus. That doesn't make the Post a
Maryland or Virginia newspaper.


I do like the way you are tap dancing around the issue about when you
went to VN, you really do it better than anyone. I just find your
timeline of the historic events in the life of Walter Mitty, ehh I mean
Harry Krause, to be inconsistent. It seems like you are forgetting all
of your stories and can't keep them straight.


Dancing? What dancing? I've never stated directly or indirectly when I
was there. I just haven't mentioned it one way or the other. This isn't,
after all, a "What did you do in the war?" newsgrou.

Speaking about tap dancing around issues, when are you going to reveal
your name here, what you do for a living, and what boat brand and model
you claim to own?

Dance on.

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:25:53 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


Like you, the name tilapia, just turns me off. Now give me some
walleye....

Now where have I heard a preference for walleye before? (-:
I'll bet it's the favorite eating fish of 80% of the people up here.
Fishermen, anyway.
Lake perch and bluegills are probably next, then crappies.
But that's from when those were all plentiful.
Remember the Twin Drive-In on Milwaukee, north of Palwaukee airport in
Wheeling?
That's all condo's now. But across the street from there is a
restaurant called Bob Chin's. Opened I think in 1990.
The Twin closed about '95. I do miss the drive-ins.
He flies his fish in - all sea fish - every day. Never had a bad
piece of fish there. About one in four times there they had Florida
grouper, and that's my pick. Otherwise tuna, swordfish or dolphin.
Come to think of it I only got the tuna once - didn't care for how
they cooked the thick steak. Too raw. So 1 miss in about 20.
Check it out next time you come up. I've heard the prices are steep
for dinner, but I always went there with the business lunch crowd,
and a nice fillet with sides was only about 10 bucks.
Haven't been there in 2 years though.
Here, found this:
http://www.bobchinns.com/bc_food.html
The sample lunch menu doesn't look like it has the selection
of fish you'll probably see, usually at least 3 types of fillets.
I always got them grilled "blackened" style.
Never tried the crabs or lobsters, but the fried squid and clams were
good.
Going to try to get up to Kenosha to the Brat Stop later this summer,
and take a look at the boats too.

--Vic

I've been to Bob Chin's. Occasionally my daughter in Chicago will Fed-X
some king crab legs from Chin's down here for us to enjoy.

My favorite Chicago area, albeit on the *far* south end, was Phil Smidt's in
Hammond. They had all you could eat walleye, perch and frog legs. It was a
little on the pricey side, but in my prime I could get my moneys worth. The
last time I was there was during my last Chicago visit three years ago. The
non-AUCE entries were more reasonable in price. The frog legs were of the
smallish variety. I preferred them sautéed and the walleye/perch broiled.

This you probably won't believe. I like a very small touch, just a hint of
catsup with the walleye or frog legs. I don't slather the stuff all over.
While on fishing trip into Canada many years ago with some guys I worked
with I broke out my personal bottle of catsup during shore lunch, walleye of
course. They thought I was crazy. Most who tried it thought it was a nice
complement to the fish.

When I went to find the URL for the place I came up with the following:

http://tinyurl.com/68vzfs

Damn, one more reason not to go back to the Windy City again.

Long live the walleye....

On Jul 24, 3:50*pm, "D.Duck" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message

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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:25:53 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:

Like you, the name tilapia, just turns me off. *Now give me some
walleye....

Now where have I heard a preference for walleye before? *(-:
I'll bet it's the favorite eating fish of 80% of the people up here.
Fishermen, anyway.
Lake perch and bluegills are probably next, then crappies.
But that's from when those were all plentiful.
Remember the Twin Drive-In on Milwaukee, north of Palwaukee airport in
Wheeling?
That's all condo's now. *But across the street from there is a
restaurant called Bob Chin's. *Opened I think in 1990.
The Twin closed about '95. *I do miss the drive-ins.
He flies his fish in - all sea fish - every day. *Never had a bad
piece of fish there. *About one in four times there they had Florida
grouper, and that's my pick. *Otherwise tuna, swordfish or dolphin.
Come to think of it I only got the tuna once - didn't care for how
they cooked the thick steak. *Too raw. *So 1 miss in about 20.
Check it out next time you come up. *I've heard the prices are steep
for dinner, but I always went there with the business lunch crowd,
and a nice fillet with sides was only about 10 bucks.
Haven't been there in 2 years though.
Here, found this:
http://www.bobchinns.com/bc_food.html
The sample lunch menu doesn't look like it has the selection
of fish you'll probably see, usually at least 3 types of fillets.
I always got them grilled "blackened" style.
Never tried the crabs or lobsters, but the fried squid and clams were
good.
Going to try to get up to Kenosha to the Brat Stop later this summer,
and take a look at the boats too.

--Vic

I've been to Bob Chin's. *Occasionally my daughter in Chicago will Fed-X
some king crab legs from Chin's down here for us to enjoy.

My favorite Chicago area, albeit on the *far* south end, was Phil Smidt's in
Hammond. *They had all you could eat walleye, perch and frog legs. *It was a
little on the pricey side, but in my prime I could get my moneys worth. *The
last time I was there was during my last Chicago visit three years ago. *The
non-AUCE entries were more reasonable in price. *The frog legs were of the
smallish variety. *I preferred them sautéed and the walleye/perch broiled.

This you probably won't believe. *I like a very small touch, just a hint of
catsup with the walleye or frog legs. I don't slather the stuff all over.
While on fishing trip into Canada many years ago with some guys I worked
with I broke out my personal bottle of catsup during shore lunch, walleye of
course. *They thought I was crazy. *Most who tried it thought it was a nice
complement to the fish.

When I went to find the URL for the place I came up with the following:

http://tinyurl.com/68vzfs

Damn, one more reason not to go back to the Windy City again.

Long live the walleye....

I will take a plate full of fresh water yellow perch over walleye any
day. Walleye, however, are fun to catch.

Ever been to Navy Pier while in Chicago during the summer? A fun
place. Their museums and aquarium are also first class.

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:07:14 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Jul 24, 11:59*am, HK wrote:
Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Jim" wrote in message
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Despite the handicap of sailing into the wind, many Canadians
pressed on and arrived on the shores of the Boston States. Many
stayed and thrived but some couldn't cope with civilization and
returned to the backwoods of the maritime provinces where they
eventually won freedom in 1984.

I thank the Lord every day that unwitting clowns like you are
around to help make my point.

Halifax was the birthplace for democracy in Canada.
This happened in 1758...before that ungrateful rabble vandalized
the tea supplies in Boston.
http://www.democracy250.ca/index.aspx

This is going to be so embarrassing for you Don. You better sit
down and read this.
I was off by two years, but hey, nobody's perfect. Enjoy the read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Act_1982

Duh! *By that time the Queen was mostly a symbolic leader........
We ran our own affairs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_North_America_Act

Poor dumb Florida Jim knows nothing about Canada, either. I wonder
if he was this way before he took his boat to the landfill for
disposal?

Trying to deflect the fact that your partner is as dumb as a box of
rocks kind of puts you in the same boat. (boating reference)

I don't really bother with your URLs, scheisskopf. So...when did you
finally dispose of that clapped out old Wellcraft. And you never
replaced it, right? You have no boat, correct?

Don't be so pushy. I never disposed of my boat. I don't know where you
ever got that idea. *No more questions until you tell us truthfully and
exactly how you avoided being drafted.

You mean, you still have that clapped out Wellcraft? Maybe we can take
up a collection for you.

I didn't *avoid* the draft. I was exempted because of a federal job.
Here's something that will make you choke: unless you were a medic or
someone directly involved in the evacuation of wounded troops, whatever
*you* did in Vietnam had a lot less meaning to Americans compared to
what I ended up doing there.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You don't speak for any Americans. Whatever he did there does not
matter to most Americans, however the fact that he went there does...
You can not understand, you were not raised with honor or integerity,
that is obvious. Say what ever you want about me here in this group, I
have never been considered a liar, you are and have always been a
liar, and that means a lot as all we have here is words... Yours are
no good...

Well said. How anyone can stand to 'discourse' with that fool is beyond me.