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Default Base timing vs. ignition timing

On Jun 14, 12:39*pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:43:05 -0700 (PDT), penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:





On Jun 14, 9:49*am, "jamesgangnc" wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in ...


Reading my shop manual for my 4.3L 190hp carb'd Merc I see that it
describes setting the "base timing" as well as the "ignition timing".
Both procedures look almost the same so what is the difference?
Also, it says you must set the "Dwell" before timing the boat; what is
that?


The procedure for setting idle and mix on the carb is very complex in
the manual. They say you have to be in the water to do it. In old cars
I would just set the mix about one turn rich of when the car started
to run rough and I'd set the idle based on the tach. Why can't you do
the same on a boat?


-Robert


So you have confirmed that your boat has points? *The service manual only
covers your model?


Dwell is the point gap. *Truth is that a feeler gauge is accurate enough for
setting the points. *There is considerable tolerance. *A timing light is the
best way to set the time. *Make sure the boat is at the correct idle first.
Few boats have a vacuum advance but in the cases where they do it is typical
to set the idle with it disconnected but your manual should specify.


Without actually seeing what they are suggesting for mixture setting I can
only agree with you. *I set my idle mixture and idle speed the same way you
describe.


If you really have points then going through a good tune up, including
replacing the points and plugs is a good idea before looking deeper into
your other problems. *Plugs do not last nearly so long with point style
ignitions. *You might make a note of how far off, if any, the timing is
before you start though since that will help you decide if the tune up has a
chance of fixing your running hot problem.


You never answered, or I never saw it, do you use regular or premium?


Actually, dwell is expressed as an angle, and it is the measurement of
time the points or electronic module is in a closed state.


Dwell is accurately expressed in degrees..... but, point gap is a
function of that angle and the "dwell angle" can be approximated in
terms of point gap. (Distributors are always set by feeler gage before
using a dwell meter.)


I agree, although each (dwell angle, and point gap) can be altered
independently of each other via hardware changes.

Proper set-up of this particular distributor sounds like both a dwell
meter and an advance timing light would be necessary, unless you have
one of those old Snap-On distributor testing machines to set the
distributor RPM, gage the dwell, and watch the curve as you apply
vacuum and/or RPM. (And I am assuming some sort of vacuum or
mechanical advance is part of the assembly.)



I remember those!



 
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