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JG2U wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:16:09 -0400, John H.
wrote:


Then I made the second big mistake. To show my wife how nice trailers could
be, I took her to an Airstream dealer. I should have taken her to a pop up
place first!


Yep, they can be nice. The downside is that you have to have
something larger than your 4runner to tow a decent trailer with.

With a class A motor home, you have the grunt you need to move it down
the road, only when you need it. You can tow a small, gas efficient
vehicle behind that can otherwise be used for everyday transport.
While driving down the road, your wife can use the bathroom, dry her
hair, make you a sandwich and drink, and relax while you drive her to
the destination.

With a trailer, you have to drive, or park, a big tow vehicle on a
daily basis while you're not using the camper. Big cost and burden
even when not camping. Your 4runner is not going to cut it. The
smallest Airstream is sneaking up on your 4runner's max towing
capacity.

Serious "campers" do the motor-home deal. If you're going to do short
distances a couple of time a year, try the trailer. If you are
serious about camping, the motor-home is the answer. On the plus
side, RV's are selling for cheap right now. Have fun.


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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:12:28 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Jun 2, 6:08 pm, wrote:
On Jun 2, 4:02 pm, John H. wrote:



On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 09:50:53 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Jun 2, 6:34 am, John H. wrote:
Anyone have one, or know anything about them. We are considering a
small
Airstream, but wondering if there are other brands of decent
quality.
--
John *H*
Check these:
http://www.trailmanor.com/
One of my favorites:
http://www.hilotrailer.com/
Thanks Loogy, but I can't get the wife interested in a 'pop top' no
matter
how fancy. She thinks Airstreams are the way to go, and I'm wanting to
look
at Coachmen (man?).
--
John *H*
Listen to the village idiot Hertvick!! He doesn't even realize that
the "pop tops" I've mentioned are first class. Airstreams are heavy as
hell. I've got a guy lives down the street that works for one of the
largest RV places in the Atlanta area, but I'm sure Jim knows more
than he does.......
A popup. ROTF!!!!!!!!
Yup, they come as 5th wheels, hard sided, extendable, etc. Saves lots in
fuel while towing. The Chalet is a completely hardsided unit. And to make
it on topic for boats, I have a slide in pop-up camper for the truck so I
can tow the boat when we go to remote lakes camping. The www.palominorv.com
Bronco B-800 was fine for a 7 week trip to Alaska 2 years ago. Got 15 mpg
for the complete trip with a 2004 Diesel Chevy. Buddy with the same model
truck and a 30' 5th wheel got about 11 mpg on the trip. Lots less air drag
and not the top heavy unit like a Lance. My Son in law has a Four Wheel
Camper popup on his Tundra. http://www.fourwheelcampers.com/ Only weighs
about 800#. Aluminum frame. The Airstreams are overpriced. Paying for the
name. Look at used travel trailers, there has to be a bunch repo-ed and
people about to get repo-ed out there with the economy as it is.


I agree that Airstreams are over priced, but try to find a bargain in used
ones! Hell, the used ones sell for damn near the same price as the new
ones, unless it's twenty years old.


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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 22:17:30 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...
"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Jun 2, 10:12 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message

...



On Jun 2, 6:08 pm, wrote:
On Jun 2, 4:02 pm, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 09:50:53 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
On Jun 2, 6:34 am, John H. wrote:
Anyone have one, or know anything about them. We are considering
a
small
Airstream, but wondering if there are other brands of decent
quality.
--
John *H*
Check these:
http://www.trailmanor.com/
One of my favorites:
http://www.hilotrailer.com/
Thanks Loogy, but I can't get the wife interested in a 'pop top' no
matter
how fancy. She thinks Airstreams are the way to go, and I'm wanting
to
look
at Coachmen (man?).
--
John *H*
Listen to the village idiot Hertvick!! He doesn't even realize that
the "pop tops" I've mentioned are first class. Airstreams are heavy
as
hell. I've got a guy lives down the street that works for one of the
largest RV places in the Atlanta area, but I'm sure Jim knows more
than he does.......
A popup. ROTF!!!!!!!!
Yup, they come as 5th wheels, hard sided, extendable, etc. Saves lots
in
fuel while towing. The Chalet is a completely hardsided unit. And to
make
it on topic for boats, I have a slide in pop-up camper for the truck so
I
can tow the boat when we go to remote lakes camping.
Thewww.palominorv.com
Bronco B-800 was fine for a 7 week trip to Alaska 2 years ago. Got 15
mpg
for the complete trip with a 2004 Diesel Chevy. Buddy with the same
model
truck and a 30' 5th wheel got about 11 mpg on the trip. Lots less air
drag
and not the top heavy unit like a Lance. My Son in law has a Four Wheel
Camper popup on his Tundra. http://www.fourwheelcampers.com/Only weighs
about 800#. Aluminum frame. The Airstreams are overpriced. Paying for
the
name. Look at used travel trailers, there has to be a bunch repo-ed and
people about to get repo-ed out there with the economy as it is.
So are you placing pop up campers at the same comfort and quality
level as an Airstream?

If you recall, that was the base line set by the original poster.

Eh?

I am not putting down pop up campers............heck, I owned one when
I was in college and it served my camping needs during those tough
financial years.
They are not the same popup anymore.

http://www.trailmanor.com/


You're right. As I told Loogy, I've one brother who is a pop up fan and is
trying to talk me into one. As far as comfort, I'm sure they're every bit
as comfortable as the 19' or 22' Airstream we're considering. But, it's
kind of like Mrs E's horse, if you recall. My wife is not into even looking
at a popup.


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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:52:30 -0400, JG2U wrote:

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:16:09 -0400, John H.
wrote:


Then I made the second big mistake. To show my wife how nice trailers could
be, I took her to an Airstream dealer. I should have taken her to a pop up
place first!

Yep, they can be nice. The downside is that you have to have
something larger than your 4runner to tow a decent trailer with.

With a class A motor home, you have the grunt you need to move it down
the road, only when you need it. You can tow a small, gas efficient
vehicle behind that can otherwise be used for everyday transport.
While driving down the road, your wife can use the bathroom, dry her
hair, make you a sandwich and drink, and relax while you drive her to
the destination.

With a trailer, you have to drive, or park, a big tow vehicle on a
daily basis while you're not using the camper. Big cost and burden
even when not camping. Your 4runner is not going to cut it. The
smallest Airstream is sneaking up on your 4runner's max towing
capacity.

Serious "campers" do the motor-home deal. If you're going to do short
distances a couple of time a year, try the trailer. If you are
serious about camping, the motor-home is the answer. On the plus
side, RV's are selling for cheap right now. Have fun.

The Airstreams we're considering are in the 4500lbs or less category. The
4Runner has a 7000lb max capacity, so I'm in the safe zone for the 4Runner.
I would definitely stay below 5000 lbs.

A small cooler in the 4Runner would cover drinks and sandwiches on the road
(I don't eat lunch), and rest stops would suffice for bathrooms. We are not
serious 'campers' but want to see the country. She's not seen very much of
the USA.


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Flibustier wrote:
John H. wrote:



You're right. As I told Loogy, I've one brother who is a pop up fan
and is
trying to talk me into one. As far as comfort, I'm sure they're every bit
as comfortable as the 19' or 22' Airstream we're considering. But, it's
kind of like Mrs E's horse, if you recall. My wife is not into even
looking
at a popup.


Consider renting a travel trailer, class C motorhome and a popup, each
for a weekend over the next couple of months. You and your wife will
soon learn the advantages and disadvantages of each, making your buying
decision more informed.

FB


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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:54:03 -0400, JG2U wrote:

On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:55:53 -0400, HK wrote:

D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Richard Casady wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 13:11:23 -0400, "Jim" wrote:

Actually, the hot topic over there right now is suicide knobs.
Edson makes a marine steering wheel with a fold out suicide knob. Casady
Edson makes some nice wheels, with and without the knob. I'm going to
install the Edson knob I have and give it a whirl. I forgot I had one;
bought it at a fishing/boating gear sale last year at one of the local
firehouses.
At what position on the wheel do you installed it? This should bring about
as many opinions as there are degrees in a circle.


The instruction sheet sez between 1 and 2 o'clock if you are a righty,
and 10 and 11 o'clock if you are a lefty. I am, of course, a lefty. :)
So you and JohnH are both lefties. Figures.



I don't know what the instruction sheet says.

No further comment needed.

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John H. wrote:
On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 23:38:20 -0400, JG2U wrote:

On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:46:27 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:

rec.head.up.the.ass
Great example of a members of JohnH's deputized possy trying to
improve the tone of rec.boats.
Like your daddy harry's "rec.off.topic" post in another thread?

What an idiot you are.

Please!



Hall monitor Herring in action.

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John H. wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:12:56 -0400, Flibustier
wrote:

John H. wrote:

You're right. As I told Loogy, I've one brother who is a pop up fan and is
trying to talk me into one. As far as comfort, I'm sure they're every bit
as comfortable as the 19' or 22' Airstream we're considering. But, it's
kind of like Mrs E's horse, if you recall. My wife is not into even looking
at a popup.

Consider renting a travel trailer, class C motorhome and a popup, each
for a weekend over the next couple of months. You and your wife will
soon learn the advantages and disadvantages of each, making your buying
decision more informed.

FB

Thanks for the suggestion. Class C's are out. We are not going to be on the
road enough to warrant the expense and headaches associated with a Class A
or C. I could consider a Class B, like Eisboch's http://tinyurl.com/4vagta
because I could at least use it as another vehicle when not on the road. I
could take it to a golf course or the store, for example.




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wrote:
On Jun 3, 12:57 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message

...





On Jun 2, 10:12 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Jun 2, 6:08 pm, wrote:
On Jun 2, 4:02 pm, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 09:50:53 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
On Jun 2, 6:34 am, John H. wrote:
Anyone have one, or know anything about them. We are considering
a
small
Airstream, but wondering if there are other brands of decent
quality.
--
John *H*
Check these:
http://www.trailmanor.com/
One of my favorites:
http://www.hilotrailer.com/
Thanks Loogy, but I can't get the wife interested in a 'pop top' no
matter
how fancy. She thinks Airstreams are the way to go, and I'm wanting
to
look
at Coachmen (man?).
--
John *H*
Listen to the village idiot Hertvick!! He doesn't even realize that
the "pop tops" I've mentioned are first class. Airstreams are heavy as
hell. I've got a guy lives down the street that works for one of the
largest RV places in the Atlanta area, but I'm sure Jim knows more
than he does.......
A popup. ROTF!!!!!!!!
Yup, they come as 5th wheels, hard sided, extendable, etc. Saves lots in
fuel while towing. The Chalet is a completely hardsided unit. And to
make
it on topic for boats, I have a slide in pop-up camper for the truck so I
can tow the boat when we go to remote lakes camping.
Thewww.palominorv.com
Bronco B-800 was fine for a 7 week trip to Alaska 2 years ago. Got 15
mpg
for the complete trip with a 2004 Diesel Chevy. Buddy with the same
model
truck and a 30' 5th wheel got about 11 mpg on the trip. Lots less air
drag
and not the top heavy unit like a Lance. My Son in law has a Four Wheel
Camper popup on his Tundra. http://www.fourwheelcampers.com/Onlyweighs
about 800#. Aluminum frame. The Airstreams are overpriced. Paying for
the
name. Look at used travel trailers, there has to be a bunch repo-ed and
people about to get repo-ed out there with the economy as it is.
So are you placing pop up campers at the same comfort and quality
level as an Airstream?
If you recall, that was the base line set by the original poster.
Eh?
I am not putting down pop up campers............heck, I owned one when
I was in college and it served my camping needs during those tough
financial years.
They are not the same popup anymore.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

JimH is just doing the same old same old. Just like Harry, if he
doesn't have one, it's not worth owning.



Drooling Idiot & neighborhood parent of the year loogy.

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"HK" wrote in message
...
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:12:28 -0700, "Calif Bill"

wrote:

"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Jun 2, 6:08 pm, wrote:
On Jun 2, 4:02 pm, John H. wrote:



On Mon, 2 Jun 2008 09:50:53 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Jun 2, 6:34 am, John H. wrote:
Anyone have one, or know anything about them. We are considering a
small
Airstream, but wondering if there are other brands of decent
quality.
--
John *H*
Check these:
http://www.trailmanor.com/
One of my favorites:
http://www.hilotrailer.com/
Thanks Loogy, but I can't get the wife interested in a 'pop top' no
matter
how fancy. She thinks Airstreams are the way to go, and I'm wanting
to look
at Coachmen (man?).
--
John *H*
Listen to the village idiot Hertvick!! He doesn't even realize that
the "pop tops" I've mentioned are first class. Airstreams are heavy as
hell. I've got a guy lives down the street that works for one of the
largest RV places in the Atlanta area, but I'm sure Jim knows more
than he does.......
A popup. ROTF!!!!!!!!
Yup, they come as 5th wheels, hard sided, extendable, etc. Saves lots
in fuel while towing. The Chalet is a completely hardsided unit. And
to make it on topic for boats, I have a slide in pop-up camper for the
truck so I can tow the boat when we go to remote lakes camping. The
www.palominorv.com Bronco B-800 was fine for a 7 week trip to Alaska 2
years ago. Got 15 mpg for the complete trip with a 2004 Diesel Chevy.
Buddy with the same model truck and a 30' 5th wheel got about 11 mpg on
the trip. Lots less air drag and not the top heavy unit like a Lance.
My Son in law has a Four Wheel Camper popup on his Tundra.
http://www.fourwheelcampers.com/ Only weighs about 800#. Aluminum
frame. The Airstreams are overpriced. Paying for the name. Look at
used travel trailers, there has to be a bunch repo-ed and people about
to get repo-ed out there with the economy as it is.

I agree that Airstreams are over priced, but try to find a bargain in
used
ones! Hell, the used ones sell for damn near the same price as the new
ones, unless it's twenty years old.


Off topic crap

Not as much as your political stuff. Lots of people use a travel trailer
while at the lake with the boat. Guy across the street, stores his trailer
near the lake, and then tows the boat up, parks the boat, then gets the
trailer from storage about 2 miles away and has nice quarters for the
weekend.