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On May 20, 6:32�pm, wrote:


It's not a hatred, it's just a deep and well founded disrespect for
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Odd. Among the names you continue to call me at every opportunity
is "hypocrite". Would that be a person who is insincere, or says
things they don't mean? Or would it be a person who has no flipping
idea from week to week how they *really* feel about anything?

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On Mar 9, 10:03 am, Wayne.B wrote:


On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 23:40:49 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould


wrote:
Pretty soon, it would become apparent that if you
chose not to participate in the fighting and arguing there would be
very little else to do. That's where I'm at. When it got so bad that
it was actually embarrassing to be associated with this group it was
time to go. Getting sucked into the vortex once in a while was
additionally alarming.


(Wayne wrote):
As always, Chuck makes some good points. Too bad that very few are
listening.



(Scotty wrote):
I will miss Chuck, hope he sees fit to return as the summer rolls on,
or at least after the election.. Later Chuck if you are ever out
this
way, I would be happy to cook you a dinner and take you fishing;...

*************

Good thing I didn't take you up on your invitation to go fishing. I
would only be able to swim so far after your well founded disrespect
inspired you to throw me overboard. :-)

Do consider dropping the profane remarks. They are a long, long way
beneath you- or at least the rapidly eroding image of you I have tried
to sustain.
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On May 20, 11:36Â*pm, Chuck Gould wrote:
On May 20, 6:32�pm, wrote:



It's not a hatred, it's just a deep and well founded disrespect for
you and people like you...- Hide quoted text -


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Odd. Among the names you continue to call me at every opportunity
is "hypocrite". Â*Would that be a person who is insincere, or says
things they don't mean? Or would it be a person who has no flipping
idea from week to week how they *really* feel about anything?

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Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 07:11:49 -0700 (PDT)
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On Mar 9, 10:03 am, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 23:40:49 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:
Pretty soon, it would become apparent that if you
chose not to participate in the fighting and arguing there would be
very little else to do. That's where I'm at. When it got so bad that
it was actually embarrassing to be associated with this group it was
time to go. Getting sucked into the vortex once in a while was
additionally alarming.


(Wayne wrote):

As always, Chuck makes some good points. Â*Too bad that very few are
listening.


(Scotty wrote):
I will miss Chuck, hope he sees fit to return as the summer rolls on,
or at least after the election.. Â*Later Chuck if you are ever out
this
way, I would be happy to cook you a dinner and take you fishing;...

*************

Good thing I didn't take you up on your invitation to go fishing. I
would only be able to swim so far after your well founded disrespect
inspired you to throw me overboard. :-)

Do consider dropping the profane remarks. They are a long, long way
beneath you- or at least the rapidly eroding image of you I have tried
to sustain.


At the time I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.... get
over it Chuck..
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On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:36:35 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
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On May 20, 6:32?pm, wrote:


It's not a hatred, it's just a deep and well founded disrespect for
you and people like you...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Odd. Among the names you continue to call me at every opportunity
is "hypocrite". Would that be a person who is insincere, or says
things they don't mean? Or would it be a person who has no flipping
idea from week to week how they *really* feel about anything?


Attitudes change, Chuck. From the first name-calling you allowed in your
place, my attitude has changed also.
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John H. wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:36:35 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On May 20, 6:32?pm, wrote:

It's not a hatred, it's just a deep and well founded disrespect for
you and people like you...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Odd. Among the names you continue to call me at every opportunity
is "hypocrite". Would that be a person who is insincere, or says
things they don't mean? Or would it be a person who has no flipping
idea from week to week how they *really* feel about anything?


Attitudes change, Chuck. From the first name-calling you allowed in your
place, my attitude has changed also.



Gee, I don't recall anyone calling you a name there. In fact, I don't
recall anyone else being called a name, either. What name were *you*
called, Herring?
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John H. wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:36:35 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On May 20, 6:32?pm, wrote:

It's not a hatred, it's just a deep and well founded disrespect for
you and people like you...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Odd. Among the names you continue to call me at every opportunity
is "hypocrite". Would that be a person who is insincere, or says
things they don't mean? Or would it be a person who has no flipping
idea from week to week how they *really* feel about anything?


Attitudes change, Chuck. From the first name-calling you allowed in your
place, my attitude has changed also.



Gee, I don't recall anyone calling you a name there. In fact, I don't
recall anyone else being called a name, either. What name were *you*
called, Herring?


Someone may have called him a boater and he probably would consider that an
insult




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On May 21, 4:34�am, HK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:36:35 -0700 (PDT), Chuck Gould
wrote:


On May 20, 6:32?pm, wrote:


It's not a hatred, it's just a deep and well founded disrespect for
you and people like you...- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -
Odd. Among the names you continue to call me at every opportunity
is "hypocrite". �Would that be a person who is insincere, or says
things they don't mean? Or would it be a person who has no flipping
idea from week to week how they *really* feel about anything?


Attitudes change, Chuck. From the first name-calling you allowed in your
place, my attitude has changed also.


Gee, I don't recall anyone calling you a name there. In fact, I don't
recall anyone else being called a name, either. What name were *you*
called, Herring?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


I wouldn't worry about it much, Harry. For some reason, 2-3 guys on
this board persist on screaming that boatingforum is filled with posts
full of insults and name calling. The only one I can find that ever
came close is one of yours that remarked the "snarks are trying to
destroy rec.boats". Even then, nobody was actually identified as a
snark. Not only is name calling (and according to one poster here "pig-
piling") the alleged order of the day, but I'm three kinds of
hypocrite for allowing it to go on. Folks who have never checked out
boatingforum are eager to
believe the slander; but then again look at the nature of the group
where those people are more customarily found.

Speaking of the nature of the group; for my two cents worth I really
don't feel like I have a dog in the hunt anymore at rec.boats (but
morbid curiousity draws me in when a thread attacking me or
boatingforum erupts). I'm getting nasty emails, flaming PM's, and
other "fan mail" from
folks who believe I've got some magical power to dictate how often
people who post to both groups post here, or the content of their
posts at this NG. Any rational person knows this is far from true. So
even though this place is part of the past and not part of the future
as far as I'm concerned, I think it's a shame when folks stand around
peeing on the corpse of what was once a useful and enjoyable group. If
you're as done here as I am, why not leave Nosepicker, Freak, Wally,
Ugly, et al
to try to rebuild this thing in peace? I suspect that Scottie's little
scouting mission to the boating forum was maybe only the first of
additional nonsense that might ensue by other folks confused enough to
believe that boatingforum is sending trolls over to rec.boats to stir
things up. Heck, one of the folks here even accused somebody of
posting Chinese tennis shoe spam to rec.boats to drive traffic to
boatingforum.

Unfortunately and unfairly, boatingforum is being judged not by the
content and tone that actually prevails there, but by the nature of
posts that some people who post to more than one boating board are
posting elsewhere. To that end, it would be useful if those folks
posting to more than one group didn't mention boatingforum elsewhere,
especially in wrecked.boats. It would be useful, if for nothing more
than general peace and harmony in the universe, if we all restircted
our postings everywhere to things we would be willing to say in
person.....(while having a confrontation in a biker bar)...but that's
my personal opinion, it's been well known for a long time, and that
opinion was one of the motivators for starting a group where a
standard of civility is expected.
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Get over it chuck,,, we did....
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On May 21, 8:45�am, wrote:
Get over it chuck,,, we did....


Sure you did. All 152 posts worth and still counting.
But should I ever decide to visit rec.boats for the sole purpose of
raising hell and then running to whine about the reception elsewhere,
I will bear in mind that the magic words "get over it" are an
acceptable substitute for an appropriate apology and will somehow
transfer the blame for my own bad behavior to the folks I set out ot
slander. Pretty useful phrase, isn't it?
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Chuck Gould wrote:
Any rational person knows this is far from true. So
even though this place is part of the past and not part of the future
as far as I'm concerned, I think it's a shame when folks stand around
peeing on the corpse of what was once a useful and enjoyable group. If
you're as done here as I am, why not leave Nosepicker, Freak, Wally,
Ugly, et al
to try to rebuild this thing in peace? I suspect that Scottie's little
scouting mission to the boating forum was maybe only the first of
additional nonsense that might ensue by other folks confused enough to
believe that boatingforum is sending trolls over to rec.boats to stir
things up.


Chuck,
You have done a good job of setting up your forum, and hopefully those
who enjoy your boating forum, will find it more productive to build a
community over there, instead of visiting rec.boats just to stir things
up and "enjoy the deviant behavior". When some of the most prolific
posters in your forum, are posting 10 to 20 insults in rec.boats to
every productive posts they make in boatingforum, it invites more
juvenile behavior and name calling, which unfortunately overflows into
your group.

As you said, it would seem to be a a simple proposal, if you don't like
boatingforum, don't go there. If you don't like rec.boats don't go
there. If you enjoy both, keep them separate. I know you are not
sending anyone over to rec.boats to stir things up, but it has been
going on. Hopefully we all can learn from the general civility shown in
your group, and ignore obvious trolls and those who visit rec.boats
for the sole purpose of stirring up a flamefest.
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Reginald Smithers III wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
Any rational person knows this is far from true. So
even though this place is part of the past and not part of the future
as far as I'm concerned, I think it's a shame when folks stand around
peeing on the corpse of what was once a useful and enjoyable group. If
you're as done here as I am, why not leave Nosepicker, Freak, Wally,
Ugly, et al
to try to rebuild this thing in peace? I suspect that Scottie's little
scouting mission to the boating forum was maybe only the first of
additional nonsense that might ensue by other folks confused enough to
believe that boatingforum is sending trolls over to rec.boats to stir
things up.


Chuck,
You have done a good job of setting up your forum, and hopefully those
who enjoy your boating forum, will find it more productive to build a
community over there, instead of visiting rec.boats just to stir things
up and "enjoy the deviant behavior". When some of the most prolific
posters in your forum, are posting 10 to 20 insults in rec.boats to
every productive posts they make in boatingforum, it invites more
juvenile behavior and name calling, which unfortunately overflows into
your group.

As you said, it would seem to be a a simple proposal, if you don't like
boatingforum, don't go there. If you don't like rec.boats don't go
there. If you enjoy both, keep them separate. I know you are not
sending anyone over to rec.boats to stir things up, but it has been
going on. Hopefully we all can learn from the general civility shown in
your group, and ignore obvious trolls and those who visit rec.boats for
the sole purpose of stirring up a flamefest.



You're one of the worst trolls that ever infected this joint, Reggie.
Get over yourself.


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