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[email protected] April 23rd 08 01:53 PM

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On Apr 23, 8:49*am, "jamesgangnc" wrote:
Competitive waterskiers have been using inboards for 30 years in case you
were on some other planet. *As well as recreational waterskiers. *But for a
general purpose recreational, fair weather, day boat an i/o is the biggest
bang for the buck. *For other stuff sure, I wouldn't consider anything but
outboards. *Serious off shore fishing, give me a big center console with
twin outboards. *But you guys act like just cause an outboard is the right
choice for what you do it is the right choice for everyone. *So if your
family got into some serious water sports, you'd buy an outboard? *That's
just pig headed.

And you wrote an entire paragraph on your use of an outboard for skiing and
how it was never a problem. *Instead you could have just said you learned to
ski on an outboard. *I've watched outboarders doing water sports, it's
obviously a pain. *Taking in and out ropes with that stupid floating bridle
to get them around the engine, give me a break.

"HK" wrote in message

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jamesgangnc wrote:
Lots of people learned to ski behind little outboards. *My wife did as
well. But that doesn't make them the best choice for recreational water
sports. And trying to say the outboard was never in the way is crap, you
just worked around it. *If you're going to do much of it in a day the
outboard does get in the way. *Besides you'll never get the hole shot of
a big i/o or inboard with anything less than a $15k outboard. *See any
real ski boats with an outboard?


I never said a small outboard was the best choice...I simply said I
learned to ski behind one, as did many others. I have no recollection of
the outboard "being in the way" of any waterski activities.


Have I seen any "real" ski boats with outboards. I sure have, in Florida..
Now, I appreciate the fact that "competitive" waterskiers these days use
mostly inboards, but I don't give a damn about them, and I never did.
Those flat-bottomed ski boats would be next to useless where I like to
boat.


I like straight inboards, but I'd never buy one as a "ski" boat, or a
"Wakeboard" boat. As for an I/O...nah.- Hide quoted text -


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Next Harry will tell us how his father skied across the Atlantic and
got a fireboat welcome in NYC on his return.

HK April 23rd 08 02:01 PM

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jamesgangnc wrote:


And you wrote an entire paragraph on your use of an outboard for skiing and
how it was never a problem. Instead you could have just said you learned to
ski on an outboard. I've watched outboarders doing water sports, it's
obviously a pain. Taking in and out ropes with that stupid floating bridle
to get them around the engine, give me a break.


It was never a problem. Yes, I learned to ski behind an outboard. So?

HK April 23rd 08 02:33 PM

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John wrote:
"jamesgangnc" wrote in message
m...
Good one.

If ypu want a recreational boat then the i/os are the biggest bang for the
buck. Plus you get to have a full length rear deck for messing with the
ropes, skis, tubs etc. Sometimes we're bringing in multiple people the
same time we're putting out multiple people. Outboards are just in the
way, fine for fishing, but forget about it for recreational boating.
I/o's are a bad choice if you're going to leave it in a slip full time
though.


AGREE, in-land, trailer boating, the i/o is the way to go. But like you
said, if left in the water an outboard is better, because all of the water
drains out when you trim it up.




There are many other reasons to pick an outboard over an I/O. One is
that the outboard doesn't have that rubber gasket...

This is a classic "funny line" : " Outboards are just in the
way, fine for fishing, but forget about it for recreational boating."

All you guys using outboards for "recreational boating," well, you're
all wrong, wrong, wrong. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing[_2_] April 23rd 08 03:19 PM

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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:49:33 -0400, "jamesgangnc"
wrote:

And you wrote an entire paragraph on your use of an outboard for skiing and
how it was never a problem. Instead you could have just said you learned to
ski on an outboard. I've watched outboarders doing water sports, it's
obviously a pain. Taking in and out ropes with that stupid floating bridle
to get them around the engine, give me a break.


Don't they have towers and such on "ski" boats? To get around the
stern problem?

The ski club at Webster lake changed their club boats over from Master
Craft and Centurion to outboard Glastrons - with ETECs. From what I
heard, more power, better fuel economy and more power. :)

Their three boats all have what they call ski towers and stern posts
(ski pylons?) for the tow rigs.

Doesn't seem to bother them much.

And I might be wrong, but I thought that the ski show in Orlando's
Seaworld uses outboards - ETECs actually, don't know the model boat -
or they did at one time - that may have changed.

I also believe that the world's record number of skiers towed was
behind outboards - ETECs in fact.

Hmmmm - I'm sensing a recurring theme here. :)

Hey - what ever floats your boat - get it? Float - boat? :)

[email protected] April 23rd 08 03:37 PM

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On Apr 23, 10:19*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:49:33 -0400, "jamesgangnc"
wrote:

And you wrote an entire paragraph on your use of an outboard for skiing and
how it was never a problem. *Instead you could have just said you learned to
ski on an outboard. *I've watched outboarders doing water sports, it's
obviously a pain. *Taking in and out ropes with that stupid floating bridle
to get them around the engine, give me a break.


Don't they have towers and such on "ski" boats? *To get around the
stern problem?

The ski club at Webster lake changed their club boats over from Master
Craft and Centurion to outboard Glastrons - with ETECs. *From what I
heard, more power, better fuel economy and more power. *:)

Their three boats all have what they call ski towers and stern posts
(ski pylons?) for the tow rigs.

Doesn't seem to bother them much.

And I might be wrong, but I thought that the ski show in Orlando's
Seaworld uses outboards - ETECs actually, don't know the model boat -
or they did at one time - that may have changed.

I also believe that the world's record number of skiers towed was
behind outboards - ETECs in fact.

Hmmmm - I'm sensing a recurring theme here. *:)

Hey - what ever floats your boat - get it? *Float - boat? *:)


It's easy to find some example of exceptions to anything. Very few
things are absolute. But for every exception there are usually
hundreds or thousands that fall into the mainstream. Using the
exceptions to argue a position is fundamentally flawed. Go to any
gathering of ski boats. Or any competition. Count the outboards.
Count the i/os and inboards. Do you really think that a statistically
significant result would support your position? Or is everyone else
wrong and you're right? That's the recurring theme I see in most of
your posts.

Reginald Smithers III April 23rd 08 03:50 PM

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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:49:33 -0400, "jamesgangnc"
wrote:

And you wrote an entire paragraph on your use of an outboard for skiing and
how it was never a problem. Instead you could have just said you learned to
ski on an outboard. I've watched outboarders doing water sports, it's
obviously a pain. Taking in and out ropes with that stupid floating bridle
to get them around the engine, give me a break.


Don't they have towers and such on "ski" boats? To get around the
stern problem?

The ski club at Webster lake changed their club boats over from Master
Craft and Centurion to outboard Glastrons - with ETECs. From what I
heard, more power, better fuel economy and more power. :)

Their three boats all have what they call ski towers and stern posts
(ski pylons?) for the tow rigs.

Doesn't seem to bother them much.

And I might be wrong, but I thought that the ski show in Orlando's
Seaworld uses outboards - ETECs actually, don't know the model boat -
or they did at one time - that may have changed.

I also believe that the world's record number of skiers towed was
behind outboards - ETECs in fact.

Hmmmm - I'm sensing a recurring theme here. :)

Hey - what ever floats your boat - get it? Float - boat? :)


All tournament ski boats are inboard, with the pylon at the center pivot
point of the boat at about waste high. While they might like the torque
of the etec, it would leave too big of a wake for a ski boat. Wakeboard
boats will use arch/towers that look like large radar arches.

If Seaworld is using Etec it is for their "shows" where they pull an
extreme number of skiers in a Pyramid, not for "real sking". ;)

HK April 23rd 08 04:22 PM

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wrote:
Go to any
gathering of ski boats. \


Thanks...I'd rather watch paint dry. :)

Wayne.B April 23rd 08 04:39 PM

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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:49:33 -0400, "jamesgangnc"
wrote:

Competitive waterskiers have been using inboards for 30 years in case you
were on some other planet.


I saw my first inboard ski boat at Cypress Gardens back in the late
50s or early 60s. I think it was a Mastercraft and it was capable of
pulling a whole bunch of skiiers at one time.


Wayne.B April 23rd 08 04:41 PM

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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:45:20 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Couldn't get me to buy a boat with an I/O.


They're OK if you store out of the water.


HK April 23rd 08 04:41 PM

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:49:33 -0400, "jamesgangnc"
wrote:

Competitive waterskiers have been using inboards for 30 years in case you
were on some other planet.


I saw my first inboard ski boat at Cypress Gardens back in the late
50s or early 60s. I think it was a Mastercraft and it was capable of
pulling a whole bunch of skiiers at one time.



I keep hoping to see one of those Grand Banks trawlers pulling some
water skiers...


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