Mac Clone Maker Psystar Also Offers Ubuntu, XP, And Vista
from Information Week

Posted by Paul McDougall, Apr 17, 2008 01:00 PM

A Miami-based system integrator that's selling an unauthorized Mac clone
also is offering the open source Ubuntu Linux desktop as an option on
the system, as well as Windows XP and Windows Vista.

Psystar also has introduced a new system called OpenPro. It's a
beefed-up version of its Open Computer clone.

The company claims it will ship either with a choice of pre-installed
operating systems that includes Ubuntu Linux 8.04, Windows Vista,
Windows XP, or Apple's OS X 10.5 Leopard.

Ubuntu is free. Vista or XP costs an extra $150, while Leopard will set
you back $155, according to Psystar's ever-evolving Web site.

Psystar's Internet store was closed Wednesday because, it said, its
credit card processing system was down. The company appeared to be back
in business as of Thursday.

Psystar claims its Mac clones cost about one-quarter of what
Apple-branded systems go for. A company exec I spoke with, who
identified himself only as Robert, accused Apple of artificially marking
up the hardware on which Leopard rides by as much as 80%.

(I'm assuming 'Robert' is Roberto Pedraza, whom, along with one Rodolfo
Pedraza, registered Psystar to do business in Florida, according to
state records).

One version of Psystar's Open Computer features Apple's Leopard OS X
10.5 operating system ported onto generic PC hardware that includes an
Intel Core 2 Duo processor at 2.66 GHz, a 250-GB hard drive, and an
Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT graphics card.

The system is priced at $804.99. A similar, Apple-branded computer would
cost more than $2,000.

Roberto, er, Robert, told me earlier this week that he believes Psystar
is doing nothing illegal despite the fact that Apple's end-user license
agreements explicitly forbid the installation or sale of its operating
systems on third-party hardware.

Robert implied Psystar would be willing to try its luck against Apple in
court.

Still, Psystar changed the name of its Mac clone from OpenMac to Open
Computer earlier this week -- perhaps in response to anticipated legal
pressure from Apple. "The name 'Open' has been selected to reflect the
fact that ANY consumer operating system can be installed and run on it,"
said Psystar.



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If these guys turn out to be legit and actually stay in biz for a while,
I'm going to see if a buddy in Florida will pick up a unit for me and
UPS up here.

I'm sure the Chinese are manufacturing illegal Mac clones, along with
the legal ones. Probably at the same factory. They're making iPhone
clones.

On Apr 17, 4:06*pm, HK wrote:
Mac Clone Maker Psystar Also Offers Ubuntu, XP, And Vista
from Information Week

Posted by Paul McDougall, Apr 17, 2008 01:00 PM

A Miami-based system integrator that's selling an unauthorized Mac clone
also is offering the open source Ubuntu Linux desktop as an option on
the system, as well as Windows XP and Windows Vista.

Psystar also has introduced a new system called OpenPro. It's a
beefed-up version of its Open Computer clone.

The company claims it will ship either with a choice of pre-installed
operating systems that includes Ubuntu Linux 8.04, Windows Vista,
Windows XP, or Apple's OS X 10.5 Leopard.

Ubuntu is free. Vista or XP costs an extra $150, while Leopard will set
you back $155, according to Psystar's ever-evolving Web site.

Psystar's Internet store was closed Wednesday because, it said, its
credit card processing system was down. The company appeared to be back
in business as of Thursday.

Psystar claims its Mac clones cost about one-quarter of what
Apple-branded systems go for. A company exec I spoke with, who
identified himself only as Robert, accused Apple of artificially marking
up the hardware on which Leopard rides by as much as 80%.

(I'm assuming 'Robert' is Roberto Pedraza, whom, along with one Rodolfo
Pedraza, registered Psystar to do business in Florida, according to
state records).

One version of Psystar's Open Computer features Apple's Leopard OS X
10.5 operating system ported onto generic PC hardware that includes an
Intel Core 2 Duo processor at 2.66 GHz, a 250-GB hard drive, and an
Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT graphics card.

The system is priced at $804.99. A similar, Apple-branded computer would
cost more than $2,000.

Roberto, er, Robert, told me earlier this week that he believes Psystar
is doing nothing illegal despite the fact that Apple's end-user license
agreements explicitly forbid the installation or sale of its operating
systems on third-party hardware.

Robert implied Psystar would be willing to try its luck against Apple in
court.

Still, Psystar changed the name of its Mac clone from OpenMac to Open
Computer earlier this week -- perhaps in response to anticipated legal
pressure from Apple. "The name 'Open' has been selected to reflect the
fact that ANY consumer operating system can be installed and run on it,"
said Psystar.

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If these guys turn out to be legit and actually stay in biz for a while,
I'm going to see if a buddy in Florida will pick up a unit for me and
UPS up here.

I'm sure the Chinese are manufacturing illegal Mac clones, along with
the legal ones. Probably at the same factory. *They're making iPhone
clones.

Hmmm...

Harbor Freight gets into the computer business!

Tim wrote:
On Apr 17, 4:06 pm, HK wrote:
Mac Clone Maker Psystar Also Offers Ubuntu, XP, And Vista
from Information Week

Posted by Paul McDougall, Apr 17, 2008 01:00 PM

A Miami-based system integrator that's selling an unauthorized Mac clone
also is offering the open source Ubuntu Linux desktop as an option on
the system, as well as Windows XP and Windows Vista.

Psystar also has introduced a new system called OpenPro. It's a
beefed-up version of its Open Computer clone.

The company claims it will ship either with a choice of pre-installed
operating systems that includes Ubuntu Linux 8.04, Windows Vista,
Windows XP, or Apple's OS X 10.5 Leopard.

Ubuntu is free. Vista or XP costs an extra $150, while Leopard will set
you back $155, according to Psystar's ever-evolving Web site.

Psystar's Internet store was closed Wednesday because, it said, its
credit card processing system was down. The company appeared to be back
in business as of Thursday.

Psystar claims its Mac clones cost about one-quarter of what
Apple-branded systems go for. A company exec I spoke with, who
identified himself only as Robert, accused Apple of artificially marking
up the hardware on which Leopard rides by as much as 80%.

(I'm assuming 'Robert' is Roberto Pedraza, whom, along with one Rodolfo
Pedraza, registered Psystar to do business in Florida, according to
state records).

One version of Psystar's Open Computer features Apple's Leopard OS X
10.5 operating system ported onto generic PC hardware that includes an
Intel Core 2 Duo processor at 2.66 GHz, a 250-GB hard drive, and an
Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT graphics card.

The system is priced at $804.99. A similar, Apple-branded computer would
cost more than $2,000.

Roberto, er, Robert, told me earlier this week that he believes Psystar
is doing nothing illegal despite the fact that Apple's end-user license
agreements explicitly forbid the installation or sale of its operating
systems on third-party hardware.

Robert implied Psystar would be willing to try its luck against Apple in
court.

Still, Psystar changed the name of its Mac clone from OpenMac to Open
Computer earlier this week -- perhaps in response to anticipated legal
pressure from Apple. "The name 'Open' has been selected to reflect the
fact that ANY consumer operating system can be installed and run on it,"
said Psystar.

- - - - - - - - - - -

If these guys turn out to be legit and actually stay in biz for a while,
I'm going to see if a buddy in Florida will pick up a unit for me and
UPS up here.

I'm sure the Chinese are manufacturing illegal Mac clones, along with
the legal ones. Probably at the same factory. They're making iPhone
clones.

Hmmm...

Harbor Freight gets into the computer business!


Well, maybe.

I saw a video of the Chinese iPhone clone. Cute and funny girl
demonstrating it.

I'm still getting used to my MacBook Pro. My last laptop was a nice IBM
Thinkpad T23, one of the last models before IBM sold the company to the
Chinese Commies. I looked at the new Chinese Commie Thinkpads, and came
away unimpressed with the models that competed in price with MacBook Pros.

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:27:47 -0400, HK wrote:



I'm still getting used to my MacBook Pro. My last laptop was a nice IBM
Thinkpad T23, one of the last models before IBM sold the company to the
Chinese Commies. I looked at the new Chinese Commie Thinkpads, and came
away unimpressed with the models that competed in price with MacBook Pros.

I read the MacBook Pro is manufactured in Shanghai, China.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:27:47 -0400, HK wrote:


I'm still getting used to my MacBook Pro. My last laptop was a nice IBM
Thinkpad T23, one of the last models before IBM sold the company to the
Chinese Commies. I looked at the new Chinese Commie Thinkpads, and came
away unimpressed with the models that competed in price with MacBook Pros.

I read the MacBook Pro is manufactured in Shanghai, China.

--Vic


It wouldn't surprise me to learn that some of them were. The only label
of origin I noticed on the box mine came in indicated Taiwan
manufacture. Apple, at least, is still a U.S. based corporation.

D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:27:47 -0400, HK wrote:


I'm still getting used to my MacBook Pro. My last laptop was a nice IBM
Thinkpad T23, one of the last models before IBM sold the company to the
Chinese Commies. I looked at the new Chinese Commie Thinkpads, and came
away unimpressed with the models that competed in price with MacBook
Pros.
I read the MacBook Pro is manufactured in Shanghai, China.

--Vic
It wouldn't surprise me to learn that some of them were. The only label of
origin I noticed on the box mine came in indicated Taiwan manufacture.
Apple, at least, is still a U.S. based corporation.

Wal-Mart is a U.S. based corporation.




Wal-Mart is a house of garbage.

"HK" wrote in message
...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:27:47 -0400, HK wrote:


I'm still getting used to my MacBook Pro. My last laptop was a nice IBM
Thinkpad T23, one of the last models before IBM sold the company to the
Chinese Commies. I looked at the new Chinese Commie Thinkpads, and came
away unimpressed with the models that competed in price with MacBook
Pros.

I read the MacBook Pro is manufactured in Shanghai, China.

--Vic

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that some of them were. The only label of
origin I noticed on the box mine came in indicated Taiwan manufacture.
Apple, at least, is still a U.S. based corporation.

Wal-Mart is a U.S. based corporation.

On Apr 17, 6:45�pm, HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:27:47 -0400, HK wrote:

I'm still getting used to my MacBook Pro. My last laptop was a nice IBM
Thinkpad T23, one of the last models before IBM sold the company to the
Chinese Commies. I looked at the new Chinese Commie Thinkpads, and came
away unimpressed with the models that competed in price with MacBook
Pros.
I read the MacBook Pro is manufactured in Shanghai, China.

--Vic
It wouldn't surprise me to learn that some of them were. The only label of
origin I noticed on the box mine came in indicated Taiwan manufacture.
Apple, at least, is still a U.S. based corporation.

Wal-Mart is a U.S. based corporation.

Wal-Mart is a house of garbage.- Hide quoted text -

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HK wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 19:27:47 -0400, HK wrote:


I'm still getting used to my MacBook Pro. My last laptop was a nice
IBM Thinkpad T23, one of the last models before IBM sold the company
to the Chinese Commies. I looked at the new Chinese Commie Thinkpads,
and came away unimpressed with the models that competed in price with
MacBook Pros.

I read the MacBook Pro is manufactured in Shanghai, China.

--Vic

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that some of them were. The only label
of origin I noticed on the box mine came in indicated Taiwan
manufacture. Apple, at least, is still a U.S. based corporation.

R.O.C.

US based is OK with Harry Krause! You read it here!

****ing moron...