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SO, Would you fight for your freedom or surrender to the first Muslim you
see?

I'd fight for my freedom from them, just like I fight for my freedom
from other religions, including Christianity.
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And THAT is my exact point! Whenever I hear stuff like "If not for our
Troops and George Bush we would all be speaking Arabic right now". It
really makes me wonder, are Americans so stupid that they actually believe
that, or are they just cowards that would surrender to any one who says
BOOOO!


Well, think about this: There are girly-men in this newsgroup who've argued
that any Iraqi not in uniform is an illegal combatant. When asked if *we*
would be illegal combatants if this country were invaded and we had
everything *except* uniforms to fight in/with, their responses usually turn
into mindless drivel, the specifics of which are too stupid to bother
remembering. Based on this, I suspect that there are, in fact, quite a few
people who would cower in their living rooms, watching their demise unfold
on CNN.

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SO, Would you fight for your freedom or surrender to the first Muslim you
see?

I'd fight for my freedom from them, just like I fight for my freedom
from other religions, including Christianity.
****************************

And THAT is my exact point! Whenever I hear stuff like "If not for our
Troops and George Bush we would all be speaking Arabic right now". It
really makes me wonder, are Americans so stupid that they actually believe
that, or are they just cowards that would surrender to any one who says
BOOOO!


Well, think about this: There are girly-men in this newsgroup who've argued
that any Iraqi not in uniform is an illegal combatant. When asked if *we*
would be illegal combatants if this country were invaded and we had
everything *except* uniforms to fight in/with, their responses usually turn
into mindless drivel, the specifics of which are too stupid to bother
remembering. Based on this, I suspect that there are, in fact, quite a few
people who would cower in their living rooms, watching their demise unfold
on CNN.




There are "girlie-men" throughout the Bush Admin who have argued and
continue to argue that same point regarding Iraqis not in uniform, or
Afghanis not in uniform, et cetera. That in their minds justifies
rounding up the usual suspects, whether there is evidence or not, and
holding them in prison for years without trials at Gulag Guantanamo.

We certainly learned a lot from the Soviets, eh?

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Just another reason to blow them all to hell.

On the other hand...they might outlaw 'puppy mills' when they take
over.

take over what?

you'all, us, them whatever.

Simple observation, what they REALLY want to take over is Israel, but
they
are still there.

So for them to take over "us" just how are they going to do that?
What Muslim country has an invasion fleet?
Do you own a gun?
Would you fight for your freedom or surrender to the first Muslim you
see?

So just HOW would they EVER be able take "us" over?

Sheer numbers and apathy on the part of current citizens.

Number of Muslims in the world:
Estimates of the total number of Muslims in the world vary greatly:

* * *0.700 billion or more, Barnes & Noble Encyclopedia 1993
* * *0.817 billion, The Universal Almanac (1996)
* * *0.951 billion, The Cambridge Factfinder (1993)
* * *1.100 billion, The World Almanac (1997)
* * *1.200 billion, CAIR (Council on American-Islamic relations)

At a level of 1.2 billion, they represent about 22% of the world's
population. They are the second largest religion in the world. Only
Christianity is larger, with 33% of the world's inhabitants.

Islam is growing about 2.9% per year. This is faster than the total world
population which increases about 2.3% annually. It is thus attracting a
progressively larger percentage of the world's population.

Assume the highest percentage, then consider that only about 10% are what
we would consider "radicals" - sheer number just won't do it.

SO, Would you fight for your freedom or surrender to the first Muslim you
see?

Five per cent of the people who live on my street are Muslim. They keep
trying to convert us with fakhada dani mushwiya. The mama of the household
tells me that I must sit down and eat because resistance is futile. The
papa of the household is a retired heart specialist who tells me to get up
and exercise, and *not* eat. Sunni vs. Shi'ite, right in my neighborhood..

Five per cent of the people who live on my street are Jehovah's witness.
They keep
trying to convert us by knocking on my door and wanting to talk about God -
sounds about the same to me......- Hide quoted text -

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Sign on my mailbox:

No soliciting, no witnessing.

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SO, Would you fight for your freedom or surrender to the first Muslim
you
see?

I'd fight for my freedom from them, just like I fight for my freedom
from other religions, including Christianity.
****************************

And THAT is my exact point! Whenever I hear stuff like "If not for our
Troops and George Bush we would all be speaking Arabic right now". It
really makes me wonder, are Americans so stupid that they actually
believe that, or are they just cowards that would surrender to any one
who says BOOOO!


Well, think about this: There are girly-men in this newsgroup who've
argued that any Iraqi not in uniform is an illegal combatant. When asked
if *we* would be illegal combatants if this country were invaded and we
had everything *except* uniforms to fight in/with, their responses
usually turn into mindless drivel, the specifics of which are too stupid
to bother remembering. Based on this, I suspect that there are, in fact,
quite a few people who would cower in their living rooms, watching their
demise unfold on CNN.


don't you mean FOX?


Any station, really. Anything except grab a gun, can of gasoline, etc., and
do something real.

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Just another reason to blow them all to hell.
I would second that.

Why? Because their religion contains a rule about the treatment of
animals?

Killing animals is important to *real* macho men.

If I choose to go out and catch some fish. That is my right. While I
practice catch and release, I do keep a few for the table. Nothing wrong
with that at all. Now if some clown wants to quote me the Coran on it, just
shows their intolerance, and will beget my intolerance.

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Just another reason to blow them all to hell.
I would second that.

Why? Because their religion contains a rule about the treatment of
animals?

No, because they, Muslims, want their religion to apply to you in your
daily life regardless of whether you want it to or not. When I wrote "you
in your daily life" I am serious.

It must depend on location. I've seen examples. But, the Muslim community
here doesn't make waves like that.

By the way, certain flavors of Christians would also like their religion
to apply to everyone. I assume you have a problem with that, too.

One thing that mystifies me, if the Muslim community is aberrant towards
what the terrorists are doing, then why have their communities cooperated
more in routing out the terrorists? I just pose the question, is there a
demostraighted effort by the Muslim communities to turn over the terrorists
and radicals?

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Just another reason to blow them all to hell.
I would second that.

Why? Because their religion contains a rule about the treatment of
animals?

Killing animals is important to *real* macho men.

If I choose to go out and catch some fish. That is my right. While I
practice catch and release, I do keep a few for the table. Nothing wrong
with that at all. Now if some clown wants to quote me the Coran on it,
just shows their intolerance, and will beget my intolerance.



I don't care if some Catholics still won't eat meat on Fridays, and no
Catholic has every tried to get me to follow their dietary thing.

Get it, or do I need to connect the dots for you?

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Just another reason to blow them all to hell.
I would second that.

Why? Because their religion contains a rule about the treatment of
animals?

No, because they, Muslims, want their religion to apply to you in your
daily life regardless of whether you want it to or not. When I wrote
"you in your daily life" I am serious.

It must depend on location. I've seen examples. But, the Muslim community
here doesn't make waves like that.

By the way, certain flavors of Christians would also like their religion
to apply to everyone. I assume you have a problem with that, too.

One thing that mystifies me, if the Muslim community is aberrant towards
what the terrorists are doing, then why have their communities cooperated
more in routing out the terrorists? I just pose the question, is there a
demostraighted effort by the Muslim communities to turn over the
terrorists and radicals?



In what country?

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Just another reason to blow them all to hell.
I would second that.

Why? Because their religion contains a rule about the treatment of
animals?

No, because they, Muslims, want their religion to apply to you in your
daily life regardless of whether you want it to or not. When I wrote
"you in your daily life" I am serious.

It must depend on location. I've seen examples. But, the Muslim
community here doesn't make waves like that.

By the way, certain flavors of Christians would also like their religion
to apply to everyone. I assume you have a problem with that, too.

One thing that mystifies me, if the Muslim community is aberrant towards
what the terrorists are doing, then why have their communities cooperated
more in routing out the terrorists? I just pose the question, is there a
demostraighted effort by the Muslim communities to turn over the
terrorists and radicals?

In what country?

Take your pick.

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Just another reason to blow them all to hell.
I would second that.

Why? Because their religion contains a rule about the treatment of
animals?

No, because they, Muslims, want their religion to apply to you in your
daily life regardless of whether you want it to or not. When I wrote
"you in your daily life" I am serious.

It must depend on location. I've seen examples. But, the Muslim
community here doesn't make waves like that.

By the way, certain flavors of Christians would also like their
religion to apply to everyone. I assume you have a problem with that,
too.

One thing that mystifies me, if the Muslim community is aberrant towards
what the terrorists are doing, then why have their communities
cooperated more in routing out the terrorists? I just pose the
question, is there a demostraighted effort by the Muslim communities to
turn over the terrorists and radicals?

In what country?

Take your pick.


You first. You have a situation in your head. I'm sure it's got a place
attached to it.

What country?