On Apr 3, 7:37*pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 15:47:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Apr 3, 3:41*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in ...
On Apr 3, 9:29 am, John H. wrote:

Make sure you get a chance to have the boat and engine inspected before
plunking down your money!

Everyone says that as a kind of CYA. However, in truth paying $800 to
inspect a boat that is otherwise pretty new and been maintained (with
documentation) by a well-known shop may not be best bang-for-buck.

-Robert
==============

It cost me $385 to have my 20 footer surveyed. *The survey included the
structure, mechanics and a compression test on the engine.

I would never buy a used boat without having it surveyed.

I'm no expert, but I bought both of my boats without a survey or a
"sea trial" *The prices were right, and I'm no expert, but I can check
stuff out fairly well. Been well satisfied with what I have.

Tim, didn't your boats cost less than a survey would have?

Seems to me you got a pretty good deal on those guys!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, they did. i feel quite fortunate. I did buy them off ebay, and I
did ask some questions. But the neat thing abotu it is that i didn't'
bit more than I thought I could afford to lose. I mean, even if they
were dissapointing, I could have scrapped them out and sold off the
parts for more than I gave for them.

Actually i feel prettyproud of myself. the little 18' Chris was
1500.00 USD and has been a blast, even if a bit small. The cuddie is a
77 Marquis 23' and even though cosmetically it was a bit lacking, via
polish
( no chalk) and needed a slight bit of cosmetic wood work, the boat is
solid as a rock. engine oil was not new but reasonably clean, filters
looked great. no oil in the bottom of the hull. I gave 1281.00 for it,
dual axle trailer w/surge brakes and all. Even with paint flaking off
the trailer I could tell the trailer had been well kept because it had
new brake lines and master cylinder installed in a moderately recent
time frame.

The boat;s 350 GM starts easily, doesn't smoke or flutter, and runs
absolutely great.

John, I think I did well, and that means that it helps make up for
past blunders... LOL!


good karma?

On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 15:47:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Apr 3, 3:41*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in ...
On Apr 3, 9:29 am, John H. wrote:

Make sure you get a chance to have the boat and engine inspected before
plunking down your money!

Everyone says that as a kind of CYA. However, in truth paying $800 to
inspect a boat that is otherwise pretty new and been maintained (with
documentation) by a well-known shop may not be best bang-for-buck.

-Robert
==============

It cost me $385 to have my 20 footer surveyed. *The survey included the
structure, mechanics and a compression test on the engine.

I would never buy a used boat without having it surveyed.

I'm no expert, but I bought both of my boats without a survey or a
"sea trial" The prices were right, and I'm no expert, but I can check
stuff out fairly well. Been well satisfied with what I have.

Tim, didn't your boats cost less than a survey would have?

Seems to me you got a pretty good deal on those guys!

"Tim" wrote in message
...


I'm no expert, but I bought both of my boats without a survey or a
"sea trial" The prices were right, and I'm no expert, but I can check
stuff out fairly well. Been well satisfied with what I have.

------------------------

You have some mechanical expertise that many of us don't.

Eisboch

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:11:03 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message


edit .... try "threw" in ..... instead of "through" in.

See Vic? I am even forgetting how to speak. or type.

I think I more often just drop a more often and repeat a than use the
wrong one.
Your system is probably better.

--Vic

I am happy with it. It's optimized and working. Mrs.E. rarely asks me to
do stuff anymore. The honey-do list has been outsourced.

Eisboch

On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:37:59 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 15:47:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Apr 3, 3:41*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in ...
On Apr 3, 9:29 am, John H. wrote:

Make sure you get a chance to have the boat and engine inspected before
plunking down your money!

Everyone says that as a kind of CYA. However, in truth paying $800 to
inspect a boat that is otherwise pretty new and been maintained (with
documentation) by a well-known shop may not be best bang-for-buck.

-Robert
==============

It cost me $385 to have my 20 footer surveyed. *The survey included the
structure, mechanics and a compression test on the engine.

I would never buy a used boat without having it surveyed.

I'm no expert, but I bought both of my boats without a survey or a
"sea trial" The prices were right, and I'm no expert, but I can check
stuff out fairly well. Been well satisfied with what I have.

Tim, didn't your boats cost less than a survey would have?

Seems to me you got a pretty good deal on those guys!

He found them in a land fill.

Or was it eBay?

Well, doesn't matter - rougly the same thing. :)

On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:53:41 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Apr 3, 7:37*pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 15:47:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Apr 3, 3:41*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in ...
On Apr 3, 9:29 am, John H. wrote:

Make sure you get a chance to have the boat and engine inspected before
plunking down your money!

Everyone says that as a kind of CYA. However, in truth paying $800 to
inspect a boat that is otherwise pretty new and been maintained (with
documentation) by a well-known shop may not be best bang-for-buck.

-Robert
==============

It cost me $385 to have my 20 footer surveyed. *The survey included the
structure, mechanics and a compression test on the engine.

I would never buy a used boat without having it surveyed.

I'm no expert, but I bought both of my boats without a survey or a
"sea trial" *The prices were right, and I'm no expert, but I can check
stuff out fairly well. Been well satisfied with what I have.

Tim, didn't your boats cost less than a survey would have?

Seems to me you got a pretty good deal on those guys!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, they did. i feel quite fortunate. I did buy them off ebay, and I
did ask some questions. But the neat thing abotu it is that i didn't'
bit more than I thought I could afford to lose. I mean, even if they
were dissapointing, I could have scrapped them out and sold off the
parts for more than I gave for them.

Actually i feel prettyproud of myself. the little 18' Chris was
1500.00 USD and has been a blast, even if a bit small. The cuddie is a
77 Marquis 23' and even though cosmetically it was a bit lacking, via
polish
( no chalk) and needed a slight bit of cosmetic wood work, the boat is
solid as a rock. engine oil was not new but reasonably clean, filters
looked great. no oil in the bottom of the hull. I gave 1281.00 for it,
dual axle trailer w/surge brakes and all. Even with paint flaking off
the trailer I could tell the trailer had been well kept because it had
new brake lines and master cylinder installed in a moderately recent
time frame.

The boat;s 350 GM starts easily, doesn't smoke or flutter, and runs
absolutely great.

John, I think I did well, and that means that it helps make up for
past blunders... LOL!

good karma?

You can find good deals on eBay and you can find crap on eBay.

I konw of a guy who bought a Ranger 518 off eBay for a decent price -
not too high, not too low. He looked the boat over before closing the
deal and the first time he launched, the boat started shipping water.
Turns out, the seller had run the boat up on a rock and split the hull
right where the bunks were on the trailer.

You gotta be carefull on eBay.

On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:11:03 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message


edit .... try "threw" in ..... instead of "through" in.

See Vic? I am even forgetting how to speak. or type.

I think I more often just drop a more often and repeat a than use the
wrong one.
Your system is probably better.

--Vic

On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:53:41 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Apr 3, 7:37*pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 15:47:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Apr 3, 3:41*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in ...
On Apr 3, 9:29 am, John H. wrote:

Make sure you get a chance to have the boat and engine inspected before
plunking down your money!

Everyone says that as a kind of CYA. However, in truth paying $800 to
inspect a boat that is otherwise pretty new and been maintained (with
documentation) by a well-known shop may not be best bang-for-buck.

-Robert
==============

It cost me $385 to have my 20 footer surveyed. *The survey included the
structure, mechanics and a compression test on the engine.

I would never buy a used boat without having it surveyed.

I'm no expert, but I bought both of my boats without a survey or a
"sea trial" *The prices were right, and I'm no expert, but I can check
stuff out fairly well. Been well satisfied with what I have.

Tim, didn't your boats cost less than a survey would have?

Seems to me you got a pretty good deal on those guys!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, they did. i feel quite fortunate. I did buy them off ebay, and I
did ask some questions. But the neat thing abotu it is that i didn't'
bit more than I thought I could afford to lose. I mean, even if they
were dissapointing, I could have scrapped them out and sold off the
parts for more than I gave for them.

Actually i feel prettyproud of myself. the little 18' Chris was
1500.00 USD and has been a blast, even if a bit small. The cuddie is a
77 Marquis 23' and even though cosmetically it was a bit lacking, via
polish
( no chalk) and needed a slight bit of cosmetic wood work, the boat is
solid as a rock. engine oil was not new but reasonably clean, filters
looked great. no oil in the bottom of the hull. I gave 1281.00 for it,
dual axle trailer w/surge brakes and all. Even with paint flaking off
the trailer I could tell the trailer had been well kept because it had
new brake lines and master cylinder installed in a moderately recent
time frame.

The boat;s 350 GM starts easily, doesn't smoke or flutter, and runs
absolutely great.

John, I think I did well, and that means that it helps make up for
past blunders... LOL!


good karma?

the best!

On Apr 3, 7:53*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 19:37:59 -0500, John H.





wrote:
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 15:47:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

On Apr 3, 3:41*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in ...
On Apr 3, 9:29 am, John H. wrote:

Make sure you get a chance to have the boat and engine inspected before
plunking down your money!

Everyone says that as a kind of CYA. However, in truth paying $800 to
inspect a boat that is otherwise pretty new and been maintained (with
documentation) by a well-known shop may not be best bang-for-buck.

-Robert
==============

It cost me $385 to have my 20 footer surveyed. *The survey included the
structure, mechanics and a compression test on the engine.

I would never buy a used boat without having it surveyed.

I'm no expert, but I bought both of my boats without a survey or a
"sea trial" *The prices were right, and I'm no expert, but I can check
stuff out fairly well. Been well satisfied with what I have.

Tim, didn't your boats cost less than a survey would have?

Seems to me you got a pretty good deal on those guys!

He found them in a land fill.

No, that's where my shop computer came from...

?;^ []

On Apr 3, 8:11*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:53:41 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:





On Apr 3, 7:37*pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 15:47:12 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:
On Apr 3, 3:41*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Robert M. Gary" wrote in ...
On Apr 3, 9:29 am, John H. wrote:

Make sure you get a chance to have the boat and engine inspected before
plunking down your money!

Everyone says that as a kind of CYA. However, in truth paying $800 to
inspect a boat that is otherwise pretty new and been maintained (with
documentation) by a well-known shop may not be best bang-for-buck.

-Robert
==============

It cost me $385 to have my 20 footer surveyed. *The survey included the
structure, mechanics and a compression test on the engine.

I would never buy a used boat without having it surveyed.

I'm no expert, but I bought both of my boats without a survey or a
"sea trial" *The prices were right, and I'm no expert, but I can check
stuff out fairly well. Been well satisfied with what I have.

Tim, didn't your boats cost less than a survey would have?

Seems to me you got a pretty good deal on those guys!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, they did. i feel quite fortunate. I did buy them off ebay, and I
did ask some questions. But the neat thing abotu it is that i didn't'
bit more than I thought I could afford to lose. I mean, even if they
were dissapointing, I *could have scrapped them out and sold off the
parts for more than I gave for them.

Actually i feel prettyproud of myself. the little 18' Chris was
1500.00 USD and has been a blast, even if a bit small. The cuddie is a
77 Marquis 23' and even though cosmetically it was a bit lacking, via
polish
( no chalk) and needed a slight bit of cosmetic wood work, the boat is
solid as a rock. engine oil was not new but reasonably clean, filters
looked great. no oil in the bottom of the hull. I gave 1281.00 for it,
dual axle trailer w/surge brakes and all. Even with paint flaking off
the trailer I could tell the trailer had been well kept because it had
new brake lines and master cylinder installed in a moderately recent
time frame.

The boat;s 350 GM starts easily, doesn't smoke or flutter, and runs
absolutely great.

John, I think I did well, and that means that it helps make up for
past blunders... LOL!

good karma?

You can find good deals on eBay and you can find crap on eBay.

I konw of a guy who bought a Ranger 518 off eBay for a decent price -
not too high, not too low. *He looked the boat over before closing the
deal and the first time he launched, the boat started shipping water.
Turns out, the seller had run the boat up on a rock and split the hull
right where the bunks were on the trailer.

You gotta be carefull on eBay.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Before I gave any money tot he seller[s], I looked the boat over well.
I'm not a nit picker, but If something was way out of line that wasn't
described,I'd walk. And what was I going to get? a good cussing and
bad feedback? i can live with that.

they could keep their lies, and I'd keep my money.