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I recently had the stern drive on my boat serviced. The engine is a 2000
Volvo 4.3 Gi/SX. I only had the stern drive serviced. The week prior to taking it to the dealer, I changed all my filters including the fuel filter, changed the engine oil, and changed out my sea water impeller. I ran the engine repeatedly both before and after my work and it was as smooth as could be. The fuel tank was full and I stabilized the new tank of fuel prior to putting it to bed for our brief winter. I live in Northern Calif so it was only put away from 1 Dec to early March. After returning from the dealer I tried to take the boat out for a brief run--no start and not a hint of sound coming from the fuel pumps. There should be a 2 second priming period prior to turning over the engine. Nothing, Dead. Not a hint. I'm in the process of troubleshooting. I can't find any disconnected wires or connectors. The battery is good and fully charged. The engine turns over just fine. I reset the 50 amp circuit breaker (it didn't appear to be tripped). My wiring diagram shows 4 other circuit breakers but I don't see them on the engine itself. I'm on the way to work to pick up a digital mulit-meter to check for power at the fuel pump electrical connections but I thought I'd ask this group if there was something obvious that I might be missing. Taking the boat back to the Volvo service center is a 3 hour round trip so if I can get this on my own, I'd like to do so. Thanks, P |
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![]() "ILUVMYBOAT" wrote in message . net... I recently had the stern drive on my boat serviced. The engine is a 2000 Volvo 4.3 Gi/SX. I only had the stern drive serviced. The week prior to taking it to the dealer, I changed all my filters including the fuel filter, changed the engine oil, and changed out my sea water impeller. I ran the engine repeatedly both before and after my work and it was as smooth as could be. The fuel tank was full and I stabilized the new tank of fuel prior to putting it to bed for our brief winter. I live in Northern Calif so it was only put away from 1 Dec to early March. After returning from the dealer I tried to take the boat out for a brief run--no start and not a hint of sound coming from the fuel pumps. There should be a 2 second priming period prior to turning over the engine. Nothing, Dead. Not a hint. I'm in the process of troubleshooting. I can't find any disconnected wires or connectors. The battery is good and fully charged. The engine turns over just fine. I reset the 50 amp circuit breaker (it didn't appear to be tripped). My wiring diagram shows 4 other circuit breakers but I don't see them on the engine itself. I'm on the way to work to pick up a digital mulit-meter to check for power at the fuel pump electrical connections but I thought I'd ask this group if there was something obvious that I might be missing. Taking the boat back to the Volvo service center is a 3 hour round trip so if I can get this on my own, I'd like to do so. Thanks, P May sound silly, but it happens more often than people admit: Is your boat equipped with a safety lanyard? Eisboch |
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![]() "JimH" wrote in message ... Good idea. However, wouldn't an improperly seated or disengaged safety lanyard clip result in no power to the engine, including to the starter? ILUVMYBOAT stated that the starter engages and tries to turn over the engine. Am I correct on this? I don't know on I/O's. I know that on the outboards I've had, the engine turns over, but because there is no ignition power, it won't start. In fact .... come to think of it ... isn't an electric fuel pump supposed to be powered through an oil pressure switch or something? It's been a while since I had an I/O. Eisboch |
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On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:06:06 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"ILUVMYBOAT" wrote in message .net... I recently had the stern drive on my boat serviced. The engine is a 2000 Volvo 4.3 Gi/SX. I only had the stern drive serviced. The week prior to taking it to the dealer, I changed all my filters including the fuel filter, changed the engine oil, and changed out my sea water impeller. I ran the engine repeatedly both before and after my work and it was as smooth as could be. The fuel tank was full and I stabilized the new tank of fuel prior to putting it to bed for our brief winter. I live in Northern Calif so it was only put away from 1 Dec to early March. After returning from the dealer I tried to take the boat out for a brief run--no start and not a hint of sound coming from the fuel pumps. There should be a 2 second priming period prior to turning over the engine. Nothing, Dead. Not a hint. I'm in the process of troubleshooting. I can't find any disconnected wires or connectors. The battery is good and fully charged. The engine turns over just fine. I reset the 50 amp circuit breaker (it didn't appear to be tripped). My wiring diagram shows 4 other circuit breakers but I don't see them on the engine itself. I'm on the way to work to pick up a digital mulit-meter to check for power at the fuel pump electrical connections but I thought I'd ask this group if there was something obvious that I might be missing. Taking the boat back to the Volvo service center is a 3 hour round trip so if I can get this on my own, I'd like to do so. Thanks, P May sound silly, but it happens more often than people admit: Is your boat equipped with a safety lanyard? Eisboch All it takes is a kid flipping the switch. Don't ask! -- John *H* (Not the other one!) |
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On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:20:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message ... Good idea. However, wouldn't an improperly seated or disengaged safety lanyard clip result in no power to the engine, including to the starter? ILUVMYBOAT stated that the starter engages and tries to turn over the engine. Am I correct on this? I don't know on I/O's. I know that on the outboards I've had, the engine turns over, but because there is no ignition power, it won't start. In fact .... come to think of it ... isn't an electric fuel pump supposed to be powered through an oil pressure switch or something? It's been a while since I had an I/O. Eisboch My I/O would turn over but not start. -- John *H* (Not the other one!) |
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In fact .... come to think of it ... isn't an electric fuel pump supposed
to be powered through an oil pressure switch or something? Correct. The only time the fuel pump is supposed to operate is when there is oil pressure, or the engine is cranking. It's pretty simple to figure out why. That is unlike an automobile fuel pump that starts to do it's thing when the key is simply switched on. --Mike "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "JimH" wrote in message ... Good idea. However, wouldn't an improperly seated or disengaged safety lanyard clip result in no power to the engine, including to the starter? ILUVMYBOAT stated that the starter engages and tries to turn over the engine. Am I correct on this? I don't know on I/O's. I know that on the outboards I've had, the engine turns over, but because there is no ignition power, it won't start. In fact .... come to think of it ... isn't an electric fuel pump supposed to be powered through an oil pressure switch or something? It's been a while since I had an I/O. Eisboch |
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![]() "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... Boat electric pumps also work for a short time when the ignition is turned on. Just like a car. Maybe some do, or maybe things have changed, but I remember the one I had only ran once oil pressure built up and a oil pressure switch made .... which it would just by cranking a few times. Otherwise, if there is a fuel leak, and the pump runs, trying to build pressure, the gas gets pumped into the bilge. Not a good thing. Eisboch |
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![]() "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... Boat electric pumps also work for a short time when the ignition is turned on. Just like a car. I wanted to be sure about this ... I think you are incorrect .... http://www.uscgboating.org/safety/bo.../183-524-b.htm Eisboch |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... Boat electric pumps also work for a short time when the ignition is turned on. Just like a car. I wanted to be sure about this ... I think you are incorrect .... http://www.uscgboating.org/safety/bo.../183-524-b.htm Eisboch Electronic fuel injection pumps usually run for a couple seconds when the ignition is first turned on to build up pressure. At least they do on cars, I'm assuming they do the same on boats. |
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![]() "jamesgangnc" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... Boat electric pumps also work for a short time when the ignition is turned on. Just like a car. I wanted to be sure about this ... I think you are incorrect .... http://www.uscgboating.org/safety/bo.../183-524-b.htm Eisboch Electronic fuel injection pumps usually run for a couple seconds when the ignition is first turned on to build up pressure. At least they do on cars, I'm assuming they do the same on boats. Not supposed to by Federal regulation. They should be wired such that they run *only* when the starter is engaged or a oil pressure switch is satisfied. They should *not* run .... even for a short period of time .... with the ignition "on" but the engine not running. Eisboch |
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