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Eisboch March 14th 08 12:27 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 

So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news this
morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the nut-case
pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch



[email protected] March 14th 08 12:31 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 
On Mar 14, 8:27*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news this
morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the nut-case
pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch


He's going to quit society, take his 36' Zimmerman like lobster boat
and single hand around the horn with it. Then he'll come to NYC to a
fireboat welcome!

jamesgangnc[_2_] March 14th 08 12:59 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch

I'm fine with what ever happens. It clearly the end of the rightwing
nutjobs' influence over the executive branch. And that's all I need. So
all you religious, holier that thou, wackos can start crawling back into
your holes any time. Been nice seeing ya, NOT.



Tim March 14th 08 01:48 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 


jamesgangnc wrote:
So
all you religious, holier that thou, wackos can start crawling back into
your holes any time. Been nice seeing ya, NOT.



LOL!

"This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius, age of Aquairus......."

John H.[_3_] March 14th 08 01:54 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:27:41 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news this
morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the nut-case
pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch


Good video - http://tinyurl.com/25h9qs

And to think this guy was Obama's main man for the past umpteen years.
--
John H

JoeSpareBedroom March 14th 08 01:54 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch



Things seem to change every 20 minutes. I think we may see all the
candidates trying to do some fancy dancing around this:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/13/alq...dam/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military's first and only study looking into
ties between Saddam Hussein's Iraq and al Qaeda showed no connection between
the two, according to a military report released by the Pentagon.



HK March 14th 08 05:21 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 
jamesgangnc wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch

I'm fine with what ever happens. It clearly the end of the rightwing
nutjobs' influence over the executive branch. And that's all I need. So
all you religious, holier that thou, wackos can start crawling back into
your holes any time. Been nice seeing ya, NOT.




Indeed. Foch the rightwingnuts.


HK March 14th 08 05:47 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 
John wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch


Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying that
if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would lose.
There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are also closet
bigots. Even though some of them may pay lip service to voting for a woman
or the best candidate, when they actually get in the booth, they just will
not vote for any woman or darkie.......





No electoral or electoral college majority is going to vote for a
72-year-old guy with no understanding of economic issue who wants to
continue Bush's idiotic war in in Iraq.

[email protected] March 14th 08 06:00 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 
On Mar 14, 1:21*pm, HK wrote:
jamesgangnc wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?


Unbelievable.


I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.


McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.


Eisboch

I'm fine with what ever happens. *It clearly the end of the rightwing
nutjobs' influence over the executive branch. *And that's all I need. *So
all you religious, holier that thou, wackos can start crawling back into
your holes any time. *Been nice seeing ya, NOT.


Indeed. Foch the rightwingnuts.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


wow, Harry, that was SO refined and cultured. Did Prescott teach you
that?

Eisboch March 14th 08 09:19 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 

"jps" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:27:41 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this
morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case
pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch


If Bush were held to the same standards you're assuming for Democrats,
he'd have been tarred, feathered and burned at the stake in his first
term.

I think the Clinton's have made clear that they're willing to
sacrafice the good of the party in order to win. You may be right
about McCain's chances since a lot of Democrats like me will sit out
the election if she's the nominee.

AFAIC, she's McCain lite. Why not let the Republicans drive us
another four years into the hole so we can have a real Democrat.

jps



I like Obama. For the most part he has run a clean campaign and has the
"image" that projects a thoughtful potential POTUS to the world. We need
that right now, even if his views on policy aren't exactly what I would
subscribe to.

Unfortunately, the latest "tip" given to the media may destroy his chances.
I wonder who decided this was a good time to bring up the pastor? I doubt
it was McCain. He's on vacation until the Dems stop feeding upon
themselves.

Eisboch



HK March 14th 08 09:26 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 
Eisboch wrote:
"jps" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:27:41 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this
morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case
pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch

If Bush were held to the same standards you're assuming for Democrats,
he'd have been tarred, feathered and burned at the stake in his first
term.

I think the Clinton's have made clear that they're willing to
sacrafice the good of the party in order to win. You may be right
about McCain's chances since a lot of Democrats like me will sit out
the election if she's the nominee.

AFAIC, she's McCain lite. Why not let the Republicans drive us
another four years into the hole so we can have a real Democrat.

jps



I like Obama. For the most part he has run a clean campaign and has the
"image" that projects a thoughtful potential POTUS to the world. We need
that right now, even if his views on policy aren't exactly what I would
subscribe to.

Unfortunately, the latest "tip" given to the media may destroy his chances.
I wonder who decided this was a good time to bring up the pastor? I doubt
it was McCain. He's on vacation until the Dems stop feeding upon
themselves.

Eisboch




You seem to forget that the dirtiest of dirty tricks are played by the
Republicans. If you need a recent example, just look into what the
Republicans did to John McCain in South Carolina in the 2000 nomination
contests.

jps March 14th 08 09:28 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:27:41 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news this
morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the nut-case
pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch


If Bush were held to the same standards you're assuming for Democrats,
he'd have been tarred, feathered and burned at the stake in his first
term.

I think the Clinton's have made clear that they're willing to
sacrafice the good of the party in order to win. You may be right
about McCain's chances since a lot of Democrats like me will sit out
the election if she's the nominee.

AFAIC, she's McCain lite. Why not let the Republicans drive us
another four years into the hole so we can have a real Democrat.

jps

Eisboch March 14th 08 09:29 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 

"HK" wrote in message
...


You seem to forget that the dirtiest of dirty tricks are played by the
Republicans. If you need a recent example, just look into what the
Republicans did to John McCain in South Carolina in the 2000 nomination
contests.


Check your computer clock. It's March, 2008.

Eisboch



jps March 14th 08 09:37 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:29:42 -0400, "John" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch


Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying that
if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would lose.
There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are also closet
bigots. Even though some of them may pay lip service to voting for a woman
or the best candidate, when they actually get in the booth, they just will
not vote for any woman or darkie.......


Now "thats" a great example of projection...

jps

Vic Smith March 14th 08 09:50 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:29:42 -0400, "John" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch


Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying that
if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would lose.
There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are also closet
bigots. Even though some of them may pay lip service to voting for a woman
or the best candidate, when they actually get in the booth, they just will
not vote for any woman or darkie.......

Hillary has a chance, since she's as tough as McCain.
Obama's downfall was Oprah's endorsement.
Personally, I think he's solid, and race isn't his primary motivator.
But when he let Oprah get aboard, it racialized Obama.
Still can't predict anything, the way things change.
All the candidates are dip****s anyway.
I want a candidate who puts America first.
This country will continue to decline until we go back to being
mostly self-sufficient in manufacturing our own goods.
We're off-shoring national defense, for Christ's sake.
I want Dick Nixon!
In the meantime, I'm going down to Florida soon to look at boats.
Still thinking new Carolina Skiff, or recent/new Mac 26.
But I won't know until I get hands on.
What kind of boat do you like?

--Vic

Eisboch March 14th 08 09:50 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 

"JimH" wrote in message
...


If Republicans practiced the same technique the Obama spiritual
advisor/pastor story would have not come out until November.


Exactly why the "news" didn't come from the Republican side.

Now, who would gain by having this leak now ..... lemmmie think ......

Eisboch



Eisboch March 14th 08 10:08 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 

"John" wrote in message
...

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:29:42 -0400, "John" wrote:



I want a candidate who puts America first.
This country will continue to decline until we go back to being
mostly self-sufficient in manufacturing our own goods.
We're off-shoring national defense, for Christ's sake.


The first I heard of this was back about 2004 about the time of the port
authority being out sourced. But then this administration out sourced the
running of our top secret sub communication network to India!!! My God
our communication network for our nuclear subs sent to INDIA?

Now the news has just broke that the military contractors Bush is relying
on in Iraq have all incorporated off shore so they don't have to pay
income tax! No Bid contracts to American companies and this
administration lets them walk through a tax loop hole....


Modern "outsourcing" dates back to the Reagan administration as a means for
companies to get around restrictive union contracts.
It became more popular during the Clinton administration with the implement
of NAFTA which only re-enforced outsourcing interest.

Bush hasn't done anything to fix it, but he didn't cause it.

Eisboch



[email protected] March 14th 08 10:14 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
...


If Republicans practiced the same technique the Obama spiritual
advisor/pastor story would have not come out until November.


Exactly why the "news" didn't come from the Republican side.

Now, who would gain by having this leak now ..... lemmmie think ......

Eisboch

Dat bitch!


HK March 14th 08 10:28 PM

Yo, Harry ....
 
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

You seem to forget that the dirtiest of dirty tricks are played by the
Republicans. If you need a recent example, just look into what the
Republicans did to John McCain in South Carolina in the 2000 nomination
contests.


Check your computer clock. It's March, 2008.

Eisboch




It was a seminal moment in the campaign of President Idiot.

I'm not concerned about the "fighting" between Obama and Clinton. It
will end soon enough, it tends to keep McCain off the front page, and in
the end, either Clinton or Obama will be President and McCain can hawk
Viagra.

DK March 15th 08 01:08 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 
John wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch


Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying that
if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would lose.
There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are also closet
bigots. Even though some of them may pay lip service to voting for a woman
or the best candidate, when they actually get in the booth, they just will
not vote for any woman or darkie.......




WTF is a "darkie", John?

HK March 15th 08 01:51 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 
JimH wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"John" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to
get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch

Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying
that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would
lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are also
closet bigots. Even though some of them may pay lip service to voting
for a woman or the best candidate, when they actually get in the booth,
they just will not vote for any woman or darkie.......



These two candidates clearly show that Democrats are the party of racists.
Hillary already proved it. Now we see Obama in full light:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk&NR=1

then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkjE0wwr6s




Knowing how damaging they were Obama obviously got to Utube and took the
videos off.

This is what the videos showed:

Obama's mentor and pastor of 20 years is now his official spiritual advisor
and on the Obama team. The videos showed he is an all out racist who hates
white Americans and Europeans and says we deserved 9-11. He spouted words
right out of the mouth of Malcolm X.

What a guy to look up to.




I believe McCain has one or more nationally known preachers advising and
endorsing him who have said some "unusual" things about religions that
are not theirs.

HK March 15th 08 02:06 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"John" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to
get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch

Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying
that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would
lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are also
closet bigots. Even though some of them may pay lip service to voting
for a woman or the best candidate, when they actually get in the booth,
they just will not vote for any woman or darkie.......



These two candidates clearly show that Democrats are the party of
racists. Hillary already proved it. Now we see Obama in full light:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk&NR=1

then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkjE0wwr6s



Knowing how damaging they were Obama obviously got to Utube and took the
videos off.

This is what the videos showed:

Obama's mentor and pastor of 20 years is now his official spiritual
advisor and on the Obama team. The videos showed he is an all out racist
who hates white Americans and Europeans and says we deserved 9-11. He
spouted words right out of the mouth of Malcolm X.

What a guy to look up to.


I believe McCain has one or more nationally known preachers advising and
endorsing him who have said some "unusual" things about religions that are
not theirs.


Are they his spiritual advisors? Did they say they hate black people?



If memory serves, one of them called for a religious war against Islam.
I believe the other, John Hagee, regularly trashes Catholics.

HK March 15th 08 02:20 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"John" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the
news this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues
to get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association
with the nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch

Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying
that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats
would lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that
are also closet bigots. Even though some of them may pay lip service
to voting for a woman or the best candidate, when they actually get
in the booth, they just will not vote for any woman or darkie.......



These two candidates clearly show that Democrats are the party of
racists. Hillary already proved it. Now we see Obama in full light:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk&NR=1

then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkjE0wwr6s



Knowing how damaging they were Obama obviously got to Utube and took
the videos off.

This is what the videos showed:

Obama's mentor and pastor of 20 years is now his official spiritual
advisor and on the Obama team. The videos showed he is an all out
racist who hates white Americans and Europeans and says we deserved
9-11. He spouted words right out of the mouth of Malcolm X.

What a guy to look up to.
I believe McCain has one or more nationally known preachers advising and
endorsing him who have said some "unusual" things about religions that
are not theirs.
Are they his spiritual advisors? Did they say they hate black people?

If memory serves, one of them called for a religious war against Islam.
I believe the other, John Hagee, regularly trashes Catholics.


The spin begins.



I don't know why anyone pays any attention to a candidate's "spiritual
advisors," anyway. I wouldn't care if any of them prayed to the baseball
gods. The more religion I hear from a candidate, the less likely I am to
vote for that person.

[email protected] March 15th 08 02:26 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"JimH" wrote in message
...

"John" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to
get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch


Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying
that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would
lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are also
closet bigots. Even though some of them may pay lip service to voting
for a woman or the best candidate, when they actually get in the booth,
they just will not vote for any woman or darkie.......




These two candidates clearly show that Democrats are the party of
racists. Hillary already proved it. Now we see Obama in full light:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk&NR=1

then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkjE0wwr6s




Knowing how damaging they were Obama obviously got to Utube and took the
videos off.

This is what the videos showed:

Obama's mentor and pastor of 20 years is now his official spiritual
advisor and on the Obama team. The videos showed he is an all out racist
who hates white Americans and Europeans and says we deserved 9-11. He
spouted words right out of the mouth of Malcolm X.

What a guy to look up to.


Here is one of the videos they tried to pull:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPjVp3PLnVs

It's hard to believe Obama would sit through this sermon, or even be
associated with this man. Very sad.


John H.[_3_] March 15th 08 02:26 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:41:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:54:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:JcydnVFI8IOi8kfanZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@giganews. com...

So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to
get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch



Things seem to change every 20 minutes. I think we may see all the
candidates trying to do some fancy dancing around this:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/13/alq...dam/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military's first and only study looking into
ties between Saddam Hussein's Iraq and al Qaeda showed no connection
between
the two, according to a military report released by the Pentagon.


Then there must be some helacious ties, 'cause you folks have been
accusing
the military of nothing but lies for years.
--
John H



I never accused the military of lying. If you disagree, you know the drill.
Find one or messages in which I made such statements. Copy & paste examples
of the text in your next response. Any response NOT containing proof will be
considered nothing but noise.


Doug, you and Harry are in the same class.
--
John H

[email protected] March 15th 08 02:26 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 
On Mar 14, 10:20*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message

...







"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
. ..
"John" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:JcydnVFI8IOi8kfanZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@gigan ews.com...
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?


Unbelievable.


I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the
news this morning.


McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues
to get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association
with the nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.


Eisboch


Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been
saying that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the
democrats would lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out
there that are also closet bigots. *Even though some of them may pay
lip service to voting for a woman or the best candidate, when they
actually get in the booth, they just will not vote for any woman or
darkie.......


These two candidates clearly show that Democrats are the party of
racists. Hillary already proved it. *Now we see Obama in full light:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk&NR=1


then


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkjE0wwr6s


Knowing how damaging they were Obama obviously got to Utube and took
the videos off.


This is what the videos showed:


Obama's mentor and pastor of 20 years is now his official spiritual
advisor and on the Obama team. *The videos showed he is an all out
racist who hates white Americans and Europeans and says we deserved
9-11. *He spouted words right out of the mouth of Malcolm X.


What a guy to look up to.


I believe McCain has one or more nationally known preachers advising
and endorsing him who have said some "unusual" things about religions
that are not theirs.


Are they his spiritual advisors? *Did they say they hate black people?


If memory serves, one of them called for a religious war against Islam.
I believe the other, John Hagee, regularly trashes Catholics.


The spin begins.


Wow, how fast things happen:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/...iref=hpmostpop

Coincidence?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Just saw an interview with Obama's preecher. He did not answer not one
question, period.. Saw a followup with Obama who stated he had never
heard anything like that from his spiritual advisor. Then when asked
it he had heard it if he would have quit the church. After a brief
pause Obama said, and I quote, "If I had heard it consistantly, I
would have quit". Read it any way you wish.

JoeSpareBedroom March 15th 08 02:31 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:41:21 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:54:47 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:JcydnVFI8IOi8kfanZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@giganews .com...

So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to
get
caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch



Things seem to change every 20 minutes. I think we may see all the
candidates trying to do some fancy dancing around this:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/13/alq...dam/index.html

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The U.S. military's first and only study looking
into
ties between Saddam Hussein's Iraq and al Qaeda showed no connection
between
the two, according to a military report released by the Pentagon.


Then there must be some helacious ties, 'cause you folks have been
accusing
the military of nothing but lies for years.
--
John H



I never accused the military of lying. If you disagree, you know the
drill.
Find one or messages in which I made such statements. Copy & paste
examples
of the text in your next response. Any response NOT containing proof will
be
considered nothing but noise.


Doug, you and Harry are in the same class.
--
John H



You are drunk again. I never accused the military of lying. It's a patently
stupid claim to make, so it fits your M.O. perfectly.

Prove what you claimed NOW, you worthless waste of oxygen.



HK March 15th 08 02:33 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 
wrote:
On Mar 14, 10:20 pm, "JimH" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message

...







"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"John" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?
Unbelievable.
I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the
news this morning.
McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues
to get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association
with the nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.
Eisboch
Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been
saying that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the
democrats would lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out
there that are also closet bigots. Even though some of them may pay
lip service to voting for a woman or the best candidate, when they
actually get in the booth, they just will not vote for any woman or
darkie.......
These two candidates clearly show that Democrats are the party of
racists. Hillary already proved it. Now we see Obama in full light:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk&NR=1
then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkjE0wwr6s
Knowing how damaging they were Obama obviously got to Utube and took
the videos off.
This is what the videos showed:
Obama's mentor and pastor of 20 years is now his official spiritual
advisor and on the Obama team. The videos showed he is an all out
racist who hates white Americans and Europeans and says we deserved
9-11. He spouted words right out of the mouth of Malcolm X.
What a guy to look up to.
I believe McCain has one or more nationally known preachers advising
and endorsing him who have said some "unusual" things about religions
that are not theirs.
Are they his spiritual advisors? Did they say they hate black people?
If memory serves, one of them called for a religious war against Islam.
I believe the other, John Hagee, regularly trashes Catholics.
The spin begins.

Wow, how fast things happen:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/...iref=hpmostpop

Coincidence?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Just saw an interview with Obama's preecher. He did not answer not one
question, period.. Saw a followup with Obama who stated he had never
heard anything like that from his spiritual advisor. Then when asked
it he had heard it if he would have quit the church. After a brief
pause Obama said, and I quote, "If I had heard it consistantly, I
would have quit". Read it any way you wish.



Grist for the mills of those who haven't the ability to discuss real
issues. I'm sure McCain will be endorsed by the hate-filled "family
values" religious loonies.

[email protected] March 15th 08 02:37 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 
On Mar 14, 10:33*pm, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 14, 10:20 pm, "JimH" wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message


. ..


"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
m...
"John" wrote in message
om...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:JcydnVFI8IOi8kfanZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@gig anews.com...
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?
Unbelievable.
I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the
news this morning.
McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues
to get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association
with the nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.
Eisboch
Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been
saying that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the
democrats would lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out
there that are also closet bigots. *Even though some of them may pay
lip service to voting for a woman or the best candidate, when they
actually get in the booth, they just will not vote for any woman or
darkie.......
These two candidates clearly show that Democrats are the party of
racists. Hillary already proved it. *Now we see Obama in full light:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk&NR=1
then
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkjE0wwr6s
Knowing how damaging they were Obama obviously got to Utube and took
the videos off.
This is what the videos showed:
Obama's mentor and pastor of 20 years is now his official spiritual
advisor and on the Obama team. *The videos showed he is an all out
racist who hates white Americans and Europeans and says we deserved
9-11. *He spouted words right out of the mouth of Malcolm X.
What a guy to look up to.
I believe McCain has one or more nationally known preachers advising
and endorsing him who have said some "unusual" things about religions
that are not theirs.
Are they his spiritual advisors? *Did they say they hate black people?
If memory serves, one of them called for a religious war against Islam.
I believe the other, John Hagee, regularly trashes Catholics.
The spin begins.
Wow, how fast things happen:


http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/...iref=hpmostpop


Coincidence?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Just saw an interview with Obama's preecher. He did not answer not one
question, period.. Saw a followup with Obama who stated he had never
heard anything like that from his spiritual advisor. Then when asked
it he had heard it if he would have quit the church. After a brief
pause Obama said, and I quote, "If I had heard it consistantly, I
would have quit". Read it any way you wish.


Grist for the mills of those who haven't the ability to discuss real
issues. I'm sure McCain will be endorsed by the hate-filled "family
values" religious loonies.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Pfffttt. he is in with racist thugs.. period. He is finished.

Tim March 15th 08 02:39 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 
On Mar 14, 4:50*pm, Vic Smith wrote:

In the meantime, I'm going down to Florida soon to look at boats.
Still thinking new Carolina Skiff, or recent/new Mac 26.
But I won't know until I get hands on.
What kind of boat do you like?

--Vic-


Something used. reasonable in price maybe even a light fix-r-upper,
18-23 feet prefferably an open bow if small, and a cuddie if large.
With Mercruiser drive.

That's what kind of a boat I like.

Tim March 15th 08 02:40 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 
On Mar 14, 4:00*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"John" wrote in message

...







"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...


So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?


Unbelievable.


I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.


McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to
get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.


Eisboch


Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying that
if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would lose.
There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are also closet
bigots. *Even though some of them may pay lip service to voting for a
woman or the best candidate, when they actually get in the booth, they
just will not vote for any woman or darkie.......


These two candidates clearly show that Democrats are the party of racists.
Hillary already proved it. *Now we see Obama in full light:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk&NR=1

then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkjE0wwr6s- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Those videos have been removed "due to terms of violation"


[email protected] March 15th 08 02:46 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 

"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"John" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the
news this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary
continues to get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year
association with the nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.

Eisboch

Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been
saying that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the
democrats would lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out
there that are also closet bigots. Even though some of them may
pay lip service to voting for a woman or the best candidate, when
they actually get in the booth, they just will not vote for any
woman or darkie.......



These two candidates clearly show that Democrats are the party of
racists. Hillary already proved it. Now we see Obama in full light:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk&NR=1

then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkjE0wwr6s



Knowing how damaging they were Obama obviously got to Utube and took
the videos off.

This is what the videos showed:

Obama's mentor and pastor of 20 years is now his official spiritual
advisor and on the Obama team. The videos showed he is an all out
racist who hates white Americans and Europeans and says we deserved
9-11. He spouted words right out of the mouth of Malcolm X.

What a guy to look up to.
I believe McCain has one or more nationally known preachers advising
and endorsing him who have said some "unusual" things about religions
that are not theirs.
Are they his spiritual advisors? Did they say they hate black people?
If memory serves, one of them called for a religious war against Islam.
I believe the other, John Hagee, regularly trashes Catholics.


The spin begins.


I don't know why anyone pays any attention to a candidate's "spiritual
advisors," anyway. I wouldn't care if any of them prayed to the baseball
gods. The more religion I hear from a candidate, the less likely I am to
vote for that person.


Nobody cares what you think. The issue here is what Obama believes and why
he is a parishiner at that church. His beliefs are a real issue now and he
needs to deal with it Pronto.


Tim March 15th 08 02:51 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 
On Mar 14, 8:51*pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"John" wrote in message
.. .
"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:JcydnVFI8IOi8kfanZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@giganews. com...
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?


Unbelievable.


I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.


McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to
get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.


Eisboch


Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying
that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would
lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are also
closet bigots. *Even though some of them may pay lip service to voting
for a woman or the best candidate, when they actually get in the booth,
they just will not vote for any woman or darkie.......


These two candidates clearly show that Democrats are the party of racists.
Hillary already proved it. *Now we see Obama in full light:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk&NR=1


then


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkjE0wwr6s


Knowing how damaging they were Obama obviously got to Utube and took the
videos off.


This is what the videos showed:


Obama's mentor and pastor of 20 years is now his official spiritual advisor
and on the Obama team. *The videos showed he is an all out racist who hates
white Americans and Europeans and says we deserved 9-11. *He spouted words
right out of the mouth of Malcolm X.


What a guy to look up to.


I believe McCain has one or more nationally known preachers advising and
endorsing him who have said some "unusual" things about religions that
are not theirs.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Really? I never heard that, Harry.

seriously.

Tim March 15th 08 02:53 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 
On Mar 14, 9:06*pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
. ..
"John" wrote in message
.. .
"Eisboch" wrote in message
news:JcydnVFI8IOi8kfanZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@giganew s.com...
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?


Unbelievable.


I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched the news
this morning.


McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary continues to
get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year association with the
nut-case pastor of his church hits the news.


Eisboch


Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been saying
that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the democrats would
lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs out there that are also
closet bigots. *Even though some of them may pay lip service to voting
for a woman or the best candidate, when they actually get in the booth,
they just will not vote for any woman or darkie.......


These two candidates clearly show that Democrats are the party of
racists. Hillary already proved it. *Now we see Obama in full light:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk&NR=1


then


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkjE0wwr6s


Knowing how damaging they were Obama obviously got to Utube and took the
videos off.


This is what the videos showed:


Obama's mentor and pastor of 20 years is now his official spiritual
advisor and on the Obama team. *The videos showed he is an all out racist
who hates white Americans and Europeans and says we deserved 9-11. *He
spouted words right out of the mouth of Malcolm X.


What a guy to look up to.


I believe McCain has one or more nationally known preachers advising and
endorsing him who have said some "unusual" things about religions that are
not theirs.


Are they his spiritual advisors? *Did they say they hate black people?


If memory serves, one of them called for a religious war against Islam.
I believe the other, John Hagee, regularly trashes Catholics.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well, I've watched a lot of Hagee, and unless I'm missed a program or
two, or three, I've never known him to trash Catholics. And even if he
did, how could that be used as spiritual advisorship to McCain?

-rick- March 15th 08 03:06 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 
JimH wrote:

Here is one of the videos they tried to pull:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPjVp3PLnVs


ok... exactly what did he say that you think is false?

Vic Smith March 15th 08 05:14 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:39:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:50?pm, Vic Smith wrote:

In the meantime, I'm going down to Florida soon to look at boats.
Still thinking new Carolina Skiff, or recent/new Mac 26.
But I won't know until I get hands on.
What kind of boat do you like?

--Vic-


Something used. reasonable in price maybe even a light fix-r-upper,
18-23 feet prefferably an open bow if small, and a cuddie if large.
With Mercruiser drive.

That's what kind of a boat I like.


Hey, don't you already have it?
If I go with the CS, it'll be this 24'
http://www.carolinaskiff.com/listman...ngs/l0010.html
See where it has a capacity of 18 people?
Since it'll mostly be just me and the wife, the rest of the capacity
will be used for the fish we catch.
So that's 16 people's worth of fish I can bring in.
Big ones, medium ones, and "other."
Cool.

--Vic

Vic Smith March 15th 08 05:33 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:52:11 -0400, "JimH" wrote:


Hillary has also proved to be a racist.

Are the democrats actually the racists?

Check this out. Some are saying the Obama pastor stuff is Hillary's
doing. I'm guessing this means she did a Manchurian Candidate type
job on Obama's pastor, and maybe Obama himself.
Would have been years ago, probably when Obama was a kid in Indonesia,
and pastor Wright was serving as a United States Marine.
Good time to get them into confinement and teach them about the Queen
of Diamonds, without anybody being the wiser.
What's neat about this is that makes Hillary not only a white racist,
but a black racist too!
Man, she is one devious pol, I'll tell you that.
Every time I see her on TV, I feel my pants pocket to make sure my
wallet is still there.
I wonder what somebody like this would see when they looked into the
eyes of a Putin. Probably how to scam him instead of letting him scam
her, I'd guess.

--Vic

Tim March 15th 08 05:47 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 
On Mar 15, 12:14*am, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:39:16 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 14, 4:50?pm, Vic Smith wrote:


In the meantime, I'm going down to Florida soon to look at boats.
Still thinking new Carolina Skiff, or recent/new Mac 26.
But I won't know until I get hands on.
What kind of boat do you like?


--Vic-


Something used. reasonable in price maybe even a light fix-r-upper,
18-23 feet prefferably an open bow if small, and a cuddie if large.
With Mercruiser drive.


That's what kind of a boat I like.


Hey, don't you already have it?


Sure! And I like 'em! LOL!

If I go with the CS, it'll be this 24'http://www.carolinaskiff.com/listman/listings/l0010.html
See where it has a capacity of 18 people?
Since it'll mostly be just me and the wife, the rest of the capacity
will be used for the fish we catch.
So that's 16 people's worth of fish I can bring in.
Big ones, medium ones, and "other."
Cool.

--Vic


Man, that looks like an overgrown fiberglass jon-boat

Which is alright if you like it. It's really not my taste though.

[email protected] March 15th 08 10:56 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 

"JimH" wrote in message
...

" wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
"John" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
So, what are you thinking as we witness the Democratic party
self-destruct?

Unbelievable.

I thought Obama had things well under control until I watched
the news this morning.

McCain's chances are getting better and better as Hillary
continues to get caught in lies and deceit and Obama's 19 year
association with the nut-case pastor of his church hits the
news.

Eisboch

Hope I'm wrong, but since the campaigning started, I have been
saying that if either Hilary or Obama got the nomination, the
democrats would lose. There are just way too many joe-six-packs
out there that are also closet bigots. Even though some of them
may pay lip service to voting for a woman or the best candidate,
when they actually get in the booth, they just will not vote for
any woman or darkie.......



These two candidates clearly show that Democrats are the party of
racists. Hillary already proved it. Now we see Obama in full
light:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk&NR=1

then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUkjE0wwr6s



Knowing how damaging they were Obama obviously got to Utube and
took the videos off.

This is what the videos showed:

Obama's mentor and pastor of 20 years is now his official spiritual
advisor and on the Obama team. The videos showed he is an all out
racist who hates white Americans and Europeans and says we deserved
9-11. He spouted words right out of the mouth of Malcolm X.

What a guy to look up to.
I believe McCain has one or more nationally known preachers advising
and endorsing him who have said some "unusual" things about
religions that are not theirs.
Are they his spiritual advisors? Did they say they hate black
people?
If memory serves, one of them called for a religious war against
Islam.
I believe the other, John Hagee, regularly trashes Catholics.

The spin begins.

I don't know why anyone pays any attention to a candidate's "spiritual
advisors," anyway. I wouldn't care if any of them prayed to the baseball
gods. The more religion I hear from a candidate, the less likely I am to
vote for that person.


Nobody cares what you think. The issue here is what Obama believes and
why he is a parishiner at that church. His beliefs are a real issue now
and he needs to deal with it Pronto.


He did........he is beginning to pull the videos off Utube.

;-) Pouring water on the fire after the house burns down. Time to trot out
some new faces in donkey land.


[email protected] March 15th 08 11:05 AM

Yo, Harry ....
 

"-rick-" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:

Here is one of the videos they tried to pull:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPjVp3PLnVs


ok... exactly what did he say that you think is false?


Separation of church and state. Is this guy a preacher or is he a racist
political activist. Do you want your president taking spiritual, and I use
the term loosely,council from him?



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