"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"carbon performance" wrote in message
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We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital
for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a
loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the
capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering
production prices for our products.

If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in
further detail, please feel free to visit our website at
www.CarbonPerformanceBoats.com or contact me directly at



Since lawyers are often involved with setting up business partnerships,
you might want to call yours to see if he/she can refer you to some local
investors.


I am curious as to the available or planned "designs". Not to be critical,
and realizing this is likely a start-up venture, but the boat displayed on
the website looks like another bubble boat "me too" with construction
techniques that are not really unique in the industry. If I were king, I
think I'd be investing in a more classic design after doing a detailed
market survey and analysis of customer's wish lists and try to develop
something "different".

That said though, I wish them good luck with their business venture.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message
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"carbon performance" wrote in message
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We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital
for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a
loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the
capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering
production prices for our products.

If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in
further detail, please feel free to visit our website at
www.CarbonPerformanceBoats.com or contact me directly at



Since lawyers are often involved with setting up business partnerships,
you might want to call yours to see if he/she can refer you to some local
investors.


I am curious as to the available or planned "designs". Not to be
critical, and realizing this is likely a start-up venture, but the boat
displayed on the website looks like another bubble boat "me too" with
construction techniques that are not really unique in the industry. If I
were king, I think I'd be investing in a more classic design after doing a
detailed market survey and analysis of customer's wish lists and try to
develop something "different".

That said though, I wish them good luck with their business venture.

Eisboch


Yup. But if what I see on the water here is any indication, retail
customers are in "me too" mode when they buy that type of boat. Some days,
it's like watching the donut machine at Krispy Kreme. One after another
after another...and none of them turn heads, at least not for me. This, on
the other hand, makes me drool:
http://www.mainship.com/models/Pilot31/31.html

But, I'm old.

If I was a venture capitalist, I'd want to know how he planned to get
dealers to listen to his sales pitch, considering that he's going to be up
against long standing relationships with older manufacturers.

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT), carbon performance
wrote:

We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital
for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a
loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the
capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering
production prices for our products.

If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in
further detail, please feel free to visit our website at
www.CarbonPerformanceBoats.com or contact me directly at


Guy down the street has a Bayliner that looks exactly like it.

Get back to me when you've got something unique.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT), carbon performance
wrote:

We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital
for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a
loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the
capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering
production prices for our products.

If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in
further detail, please feel free to visit our website at
www.CarbonPerformanceBoats.com or contact me directly at


Guy down the street has a Bayliner that looks exactly like it.

Get back to me when you've got something unique.

Somebody must have purchased some molds at an odd lots sale.

If "carbon" is in the name I am thinking of carbon-fiber, kevlar and the
like.

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:02:32 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 07:05:42 -0700 (PDT), carbon performance
wrote:

We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital
for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a
loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the
capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering
production prices for our products.

If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in
further detail, please feel free to visit our website at
www.CarbonPerformanceBoats.com or contact me directly at


Guy down the street has a Bayliner that looks exactly like it.

Get back to me when you've got something unique.

I liked the Whaler in the front.
--
John

On Mar 13, 9:05*am, carbon performance
wrote:
We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital
for the production of our models. *We are prepared to discuss either a
loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the
capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering
production prices for our products.

If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in
further detail, please feel free to visit our website atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comor contact me directly at


I really don't know, because ,well... I really don't know. But I was
wondering, if the boat on the front of your website is really one
you've constructed? Also, from an average (or not) consumers point, I
think you need to add much more info. in your website. It sound like
you're wanting to make an absolute quality craft and not "cut corners"
which is good. But when I looked at your site there didn't seem to me
that there would be much to hold my interest. My advice isn't much and
I know it, but I think you need to pump up your website and it would
possibly aid in attracting investors.

The best of luck to you!

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Mar 13, 9:05 am, carbon performance
wrote:
We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital
for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a
loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the
capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering
production prices for our products.

If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in
further detail, please feel free to visit our website
atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comor contact me directly at


I really don't know, because ,well... I really don't know. But I was
wondering, if the boat on the front of your website is really one
you've constructed? Also, from an average (or not) consumers point, I
think you need to add much more info. in your website. It sound like
you're wanting to make an absolute quality craft and not "cut corners"
which is good. But when I looked at your site there didn't seem to me
that there would be much to hold my interest. My advice isn't much and
I know it, but I think you need to pump up your website and it would
possibly aid in attracting investors.

The best of luck to you!

------------------------------------------

This guy kinda caught my attention for some reason. Maybe it's because I
got a sense of an entrepreneurial flavor to his post which I liked.

The website, although sparse, is well written and transmits a vision of
attempting to offer a high quality product, at least from an idealistic
point of view anyway. I liked it's tone.

Putting aside the fact that I am not a fan of bubble boats, the concern I
have, recognizing that it is based on very little information, is that the
boat does not seem to have any memorable unique attributes to it. It's
going to compete against a score of established boat manufacturers building
similar boats. So, here's the problem. In order to gain entry to the
marketplace they will have to do something to make it unique and desirable.
The only option is price.

The worst mistake any budding business can make is to underprice their
product to penetrate the market, especially on big ticket items. You loose
money and it takes many years of being profitable to make it up. Plus,
it's much more difficult to increase prices, once established.

I realize I am just guessing at this and again wish them success, but to me
there's something missing to justify consideration of an investment.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Tim" wrote in message
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On Mar 13, 9:05 am, carbon performance
wrote:
We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital
for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a
loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the
capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering
production prices for our products.

If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in
further detail, please feel free to visit our website
atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comor contact me directly at


I really don't know, because ,well... I really don't know. But I was
wondering, if the boat on the front of your website is really one
you've constructed? Also, from an average (or not) consumers point, I
think you need to add much more info. in your website. It sound like
you're wanting to make an absolute quality craft and not "cut corners"
which is good. But when I looked at your site there didn't seem to me
that there would be much to hold my interest. My advice isn't much and
I know it, but I think you need to pump up your website and it would
possibly aid in attracting investors.

The best of luck to you!

------------------------------------------

This guy kinda caught my attention for some reason. Maybe it's because I
got a sense of an entrepreneurial flavor to his post which I liked.

The website, although sparse, is well written and transmits a vision of
attempting to offer a high quality product, at least from an idealistic
point of view anyway. I liked it's tone.

Putting aside the fact that I am not a fan of bubble boats, the concern I
have, recognizing that it is based on very little information, is that the
boat does not seem to have any memorable unique attributes to it. It's
going to compete against a score of established boat manufacturers
building similar boats. So, here's the problem. In order to gain entry
to the marketplace they will have to do something to make it unique and
desirable. The only option is price.

The worst mistake any budding business can make is to underprice their
product to penetrate the market, especially on big ticket items. You
loose money and it takes many years of being profitable to make it up.
Plus, it's much more difficult to increase prices, once established.

I realize I am just guessing at this and again wish them success, but to
me there's something missing to justify consideration of an investment.

Eisboch



"Lose" (not "loose") ...... dope.

Eisboch

On Mar 13, 7:11*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"Tim" wrote in message
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On Mar 13, 9:05 am, carbon performance
wrote:
We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital
for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a
loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the
capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering
production prices for our products.

If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in
further detail, please feel free to visit our website
atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontact me directly at


I really don't know, because ,well... I really don't know. *But I was
wondering, if the boat on the front of your website is really one
you've constructed? *Also, from an average (or not) consumers point, I
think you need to add much more info. in your website. It sound like
you're wanting to make an absolute quality craft and not "cut corners"
which is good. But when I looked at your site there didn't seem to me
that there would be much to hold my interest. My advice isn't much and
I know it, but I think you need to pump up your website and it would
possibly aid in attracting investors.

The best of luck to you!

------------------------------------------

This guy kinda caught my attention for some reason. *Maybe it's because I
got a sense of an entrepreneurial flavor to his post which I liked.

The website, although sparse, is well written and transmits a vision of
attempting to offer a high quality product, at least from an idealistic
point of view anyway. *I liked it's tone.

Putting aside the fact that I am not a fan of bubble boats, the concern I
have, recognizing that it is based on very little information, is that the
boat does not seem to have any memorable unique attributes to it. *It's
going to compete against a score of established boat manufacturers
building similar boats. * *So, here's the problem. *In order to gain entry
to the marketplace they will have to do something to make it unique and
desirable. The only option is price.

The worst mistake any budding business can make is to underprice their
product to penetrate the market, especially on big ticket items. *You
loose money and it takes many years of being profitable to make it up.
Plus, it's much more difficult to increase prices, once established.

I realize I am just guessing at this and again wish them success, but to
me there's something missing to justify consideration of an investment.

Eisboch

"Lose" *(not "loose") * ...... dope.

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

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you were right the first time. Investers with "loose" money can easily
"loooze" it, especially on big-ticket items without careful planning.


Agreed, though, unless they have a niche' market there's already old
established names out there that can be tough competitors

On Mar 13, 8:05*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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On Mar 13, 9:05 am, carbon performance
wrote:

We currently have standing orders for our boats, and require capital
for the production of our models. We are prepared to discuss either a
loan or partnership structure, and would be willing to secure the
capital against the boats as they are built, as well as offering
production prices for our products.

If anyone is aware of a source, or is interested in discussing this in
further detail, please feel free to visit our website
atwww.CarbonPerformanceBoats.comorcontact me directly at


I really don't know, because ,well... I really don't know. *But I was
wondering, if the boat on the front of your website is really one
you've constructed? *Also, from an average (or not) consumers point, I
think you need to add much more info. in your website. It sound like
you're wanting to make an absolute quality craft and not "cut corners"
which is good. But when I looked at your site there didn't seem to me
that there would be much to hold my interest. My advice isn't much and
I know it, but I think you need to pump up your website and it would
possibly aid in attracting investors.

The best of luck to you!

------------------------------------------

This guy kinda caught my attention for some reason. *Maybe it's because I
got a sense of an entrepreneurial flavor to his post which I liked.

The website, although sparse, is well written and transmits a vision of
attempting to offer a high quality product, at least from an idealistic
point of view anyway. *I liked it's tone.

Putting aside the fact that I am not a fan of bubble boats, the concern I
have, recognizing that it is based on very little information, is that the
boat does not seem to have any memorable unique attributes to it. *It's
going to compete against a score of established boat manufacturers building
similar boats. * *So, here's the problem. *In order to gain entry to the
marketplace they will have to do something to make it unique and desirable..
The only option is price.

The worst mistake any budding business can make is to underprice their
product to penetrate the market, especially on big ticket items. *You loose
money and it takes many years of being profitable to make it up. * Plus,
it's much more difficult to increase prices, once established.

I realize I am just guessing at this and again wish them success, but to me
there's something missing to justify consideration of an investment.

Eisboch

Well, if you're interested in investment in the boat business... I've
got an extra hammer