More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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On Mar 13, 9:34 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),





wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did
not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article
left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in
one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the
excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news,
Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting
the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks,
bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way
to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that
do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just
plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the
drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going
to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls..
Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet
you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:
Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'
By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01
NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a
crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday
after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double
life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.
With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized
for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping
down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will
take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson,
time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -
Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and
BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..
=================
But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not
fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull
down the
shades while doing so.
The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards
except
Harry's.
It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In
this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted
text -
- Show quoted text -
My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.
If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Yeah salty, guess I am just ignorant, as is my wife, and my dad, and
the list goes on.... Or how do you psudo-intellectuals put it,
"uninformed"? I guess I should know all the political affiliation of
all the governors around here as being from New York, he must be a
dem, that goes without saying.. oh wait, can you say Bloomberg?

======================

Here's another way to look at it: Why do you think his party affiliation
even matters, compared to all the other facts surrounding the story?
It is used at every oppourtunity when describing a Republican who has gone
afoul of rules, laws and ethics. But, it is somehow not deemed important
when a Deomcrat runs afould of rules, laws or ethics.



Not true. You're generalizing based on what you want to believe.

You are stating an opinion not a fact.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:14:10 -0400, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

. ..





JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies,
did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the
article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the
prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible
charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the
excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news,
Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest
protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers
folks, bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever
way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country
that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is
just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the
drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is
going to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone
calls.. Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me.
Bet you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:
Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'
By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01
NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a
crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation
Wednesday after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his
double life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.
With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer
apologized for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is
stepping down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation
will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A.
Paterson, time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -
Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.-
Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks,
and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..
=================
But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post
is not fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to
pull down the
shades while doing so.
The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's
standards except
Harry's.
It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see.
In this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.

If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.


Isn't the standard style that the identification goes with the first
use and there after it is not needed? The problem with "journalism"
today is that the political agenda of the journalist determines
which style is used?

Nope. You've got it about as wrong as possible. The first use of a
name in an article should be first and last name, and after that, the
last name only is used unless it would cause confusion.
AP publishes a style book that most newspapers follow at least
loosely. Some follow it more closely than others. Political
afilliation is not used unless it impacts the story in some meaningful
way. Spitzer didn't do any of the things he allegedly did because he
is a member of any particular political party, organization, race, or
religion. All are incidental to the story, so none are prominent in
the stories. They mention that he is married, and has children because
that DOES help tell the story.

How does getting arrested for tapping your toes while taking a crap in
an airport bathroom warrant having your political party affiliation
mentioned two or three times in each paragraph when the story is
reported?



Because it is the *Republican Party* that has positioned itself as the
party of *family values* (whatever the hell that is), and that party
that is against gay right, and because Senator Craig was in the
forefront of the GOP battle against gays.

Spitzer got elected based upon his desire to root out corruption and run
and ethical administration. Let's be fair.

I now believe the more a politician or minister protests against gays
and gay rights, the more likely that person is either a gay still in the
closet or a child molester. :)

Sounds like you have some experience in those areas.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

"BAR" wrote in message
...
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 9:34 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),





wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies,
did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article
left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution
in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible
charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the
excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news,
Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest
protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks,
bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever
way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country
that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just
plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the
drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going
to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone
calls.. Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me.
Bet you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:
Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'
By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01
NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a
crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday
after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double
life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.
With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer
apologized for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping
down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation
will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson,
time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -
Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.-
Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and
BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..
=================
But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is
not fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull
down the
shades while doing so.
The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards
except
Harry's.
It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In
this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted
text -
- Show quoted text -
My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.
If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Yeah salty, guess I am just ignorant, as is my wife, and my dad, and
the list goes on.... Or how do you psudo-intellectuals put it,
"uninformed"? I guess I should know all the political affiliation of
all the governors around here as being from New York, he must be a
dem, that goes without saying.. oh wait, can you say Bloomberg?

======================

Here's another way to look at it: Why do you think his party
affiliation even matters, compared to all the other facts surrounding
the story?
It is used at every oppourtunity when describing a Republican who has
gone afoul of rules, laws and ethics. But, it is somehow not deemed
important when a Deomcrat runs afould of rules, laws or ethics.



Not true. You're generalizing based on what you want to believe.

You are stating an opinion not a fact.



Maybe. Show me some examples. The only way to be sure is to look at how &
where the words are being used in specific articles.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:14:10 -0400, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

. ..





JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York
Lies, did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the
article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the
prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible
charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the
excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news,
Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest
protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers
folks, bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a
clever way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the
country that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is
just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the
drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is
going to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone
calls.. Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link
me. Bet you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:
Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'
By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01
NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a
crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation
Wednesday after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his
double life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.
With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer
apologized for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is
stepping down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the
resignation will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A.
Paterson, time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -
Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.-
Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks,
and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..
=================
But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post
is not fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to
pull down the
shades while doing so.
The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's
standards except
Harry's.
It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see.
In this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the
word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty
good
at that.

If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.


Isn't the standard style that the identification goes with the
first use and there after it is not needed? The problem with
"journalism" today is that the political agenda of the journalist
determines which style is used?

Nope. You've got it about as wrong as possible. The first use of a
name in an article should be first and last name, and after that, the
last name only is used unless it would cause confusion.
AP publishes a style book that most newspapers follow at least
loosely. Some follow it more closely than others. Political
afilliation is not used unless it impacts the story in some meaningful
way. Spitzer didn't do any of the things he allegedly did because he
is a member of any particular political party, organization, race, or
religion. All are incidental to the story, so none are prominent in
the stories. They mention that he is married, and has children because
that DOES help tell the story.

How does getting arrested for tapping your toes while taking a crap
in an airport bathroom warrant having your political party
affiliation mentioned two or three times in each paragraph when the
story is reported?



Because it is the *Republican Party* that has positioned itself as the
party of *family values* (whatever the hell that is), and that party
that is against gay right, and because Senator Craig was in the
forefront of the GOP battle against gays.

Spitzer got elected based upon his desire to root out corruption and run
and ethical administration. Let's be fair.

I now believe the more a politician or minister protests against gays
and gay rights, the more likely that person is either a gay still in
the closet or a child molester. :)

Sounds like you have some experience in those areas.


Yeah, I read a lot.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:

Because it is the *Republican Party* that has positioned itself as
the party of *family values* (whatever the hell that is), and that
party that is against gay right, and because Senator Craig was in the
forefront of the GOP battle against gays.

Spitzer got elected based upon his desire to root out corruption and
run and ethical administration. Let's be fair.

I now believe the more a politician or minister protests against gays
and gay rights, the more likely that person is either a gay still in
the closet or a child molester. :)

Sounds like you have some experience in those areas.


Yeah, I read a lot.

No comment about Spitzer's unethical behavior as governor? Telling.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

On Mar 13, 1:29*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:12:48 -0700 (PDT),





wrote:
On Mar 13, 1:09*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:53:50 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 13, 12:44*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:14:10 -0400, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

news:ZM6dnQQBGJp4v0TanZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@comcast. com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls.. Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:
Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'
By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01
NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.
With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -
Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..
=================
But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down the
shades while doing so.
The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards except
Harry's.
It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period...
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.

If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.

Isn't the standard style that the identification goes with the first use
and there after it is not needed? The problem with "journalism" today is
that the political agenda of the journalist determines which style is used?

Nope. You've got it about as wrong as possible. The first use of a
name in an article should be first and last name, and after that, the
last name only is used unless it would cause confusion.

AP publishes a style book that most newspapers follow at least
loosely. Some follow it more closely than others. Political
afilliation is not used unless it impacts the story in some meaningful
way. Spitzer didn't do any of the things he allegedly did because he
is a member of any particular political party, organization, race, or
religion. All are incidental to the story, so none are prominent in
the stories. They mention that he is married, and has children because
that DOES help tell the story.- Hide quoted text -

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Then why did the Chicago paper and ABC news only mention "GOP" and
"Republican" in their stories.. Was that in line with your "rules" or
was it to confuse the readers who are not as informed as to what party
Spitzer belongs to?

I have no idea hat you are jabbering about. If someone identified
Spitzer as a Republican, then they simply screwed up. At one of the
newspapers I used to run, we frequently got letters from a very
elderly former school teacher who would send us corrections of all the
typos she found in our classifieds. I've also seen editing notes end
up running in the paper.

Lets not overlook the famous "Dewey Wins" and "Perot Wins" headlines!

One of my favorite bloopers of all time was at one of my papers. It
was a Headline that said: "POPULAR LOCAL COUPLE ASSUMES MISSIONARY
POSITION"

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No, links were posted yesterday. The only mention of party in the
Chicago paper was the headline which read "GOP demands Spitzer resign"
and the ABC news identified a "Republican" legislator who commented on
the issue..

Well, GOP D-I-D call for Spitzer's ouster. That was what THAT story
was about.

No it was not about that, that is just untrue.

I really can't continue with you with your deflections and
name calling, I don't really expect a coherant answer here either.. I
am going outside to play with the gardens..

What name calling? What deflections?

Saying I was ignorant or whatever cause I am from CT and did not know
his partys affiliation.

I have given reasoned responses
to those who asked reasonable questions.

Another slight, I guess my questions are not clear enough for you,
that is just another deflection.. You just can't do this..

You just fly off the handle
and start throwing things. I can't be responsible for your personal
shortcomings

Hummmm...........


when it comes to discussing something where you already
have your mind made up and securely locked.

Nope, I have an opinion, and no one here has the integerity to
honestly oppose it,

Can you say, elitist;) Later salty

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

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On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:33:27 -0400, BAR wrote:

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:14:10 -0400, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

. ..





JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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...

On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies,
did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the
article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the
prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible
charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the
excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news,
Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest
protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers
folks, bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever
way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country
that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is
just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the
drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is
going to
win.- Hide quoted text -
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You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone
calls.. Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me.
Bet you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:
Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'
By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01
NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a
crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation
Wednesday after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his
double life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.
With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer
apologized for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is
stepping down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation
will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A.
Paterson, time
to make a smooth transition.
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Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.-
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Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks,
and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk
radio..
=================
But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post
is not fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to
pull down the
shades while doing so.
The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's
standards except
Harry's.
It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see.
In this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the
word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide
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My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty
good
at that.

If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.


Isn't the standard style that the identification goes with the first
use and there after it is not needed? The problem with "journalism"
today is that the political agenda of the journalist determines
which style is used?

Nope. You've got it about as wrong as possible. The first use of a
name in an article should be first and last name, and after that, the
last name only is used unless it would cause confusion.
AP publishes a style book that most newspapers follow at least
loosely. Some follow it more closely than others. Political
afilliation is not used unless it impacts the story in some meaningful
way. Spitzer didn't do any of the things he allegedly did because he
is a member of any particular political party, organization, race, or
religion. All are incidental to the story, so none are prominent in
the stories. They mention that he is married, and has children because
that DOES help tell the story.

How does getting arrested for tapping your toes while taking a crap in
an airport bathroom warrant having your political party affiliation
mentioned two or three times in each paragraph when the story is
reported?



Because it is the *Republican Party* that has positioned itself as the
party of *family values* (whatever the hell that is), and that party
that is against gay right, and because Senator Craig was in the
forefront of the GOP battle against gays.

Spitzer got elected based upon his desire to root out corruption and run
and ethical administration. Let's be fair.


Yes, and MUCH has been made of that in the media. In the news biz,
that's called a HOOK or an angle. It's a huge element of the story.
Many people are more incensed about the hypocrisy involved than simply
what he did. I am one of those people.



Right. Like this chart, which doesn't just point out gay behavior, since
that's becoming an accepted thing. It points out the hypocrisy of the people
involved.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...g?t=1205430117

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

On Mar 13, 1:41*pm, BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:

Because it is the *Republican Party* that has positioned itself as
the party of *family values* (whatever the hell that is), and that
party that is against gay right, and because Senator Craig was in the
forefront of the GOP battle against gays.

Spitzer got elected based upon his desire to root out corruption and
run and ethical administration. Let's be fair.

I now believe the more a politician or minister protests against gays
and gay rights, the more likely that person is either a gay still in
the closet or a child molester. *:)

Sounds like you have some experience in those areas.

Yeah, I read a lot.

No comment about Spitzer's unethical behavior as governor? Telling.- Hide quoted text -

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Forget it Bar, I think we are just fighting with more of Harrys sock
puppets. Might as well not waste your time. The guy almost had me
believing he was from CT;)

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:

Because it is the *Republican Party* that has positioned itself as
the party of *family values* (whatever the hell that is), and that
party that is against gay right, and because Senator Craig was in
the forefront of the GOP battle against gays.

Spitzer got elected based upon his desire to root out corruption and
run and ethical administration. Let's be fair.

I now believe the more a politician or minister protests against
gays and gay rights, the more likely that person is either a gay
still in the closet or a child molester. :)

Sounds like you have some experience in those areas.


Yeah, I read a lot.

No comment about Spitzer's unethical behavior as governor? Telling.


Was Spitzer unethical in the discharge of his gubernatorial duties? He
certainly has ethical issues in his personal behavior.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

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On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:42:42 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:33:27 -0400, BAR wrote:

HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:14:10 -0400, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

. ..





JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York
Lies,
did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the
article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the
prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible
charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the
excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double
standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you
watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news,
Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest
protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers
folks, bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a
clever
way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the
country
that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is
just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the
drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is
going to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone
calls.. Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link
me.
Bet you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:
Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'
By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01
NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a
rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a
crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation
Wednesday after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his
double life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.
With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer
apologized for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is
stepping down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the
resignation
will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A.
Paterson, time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -
Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.-
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Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks,
and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk
radio..
=================
But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post
is not fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to
pull down the
shades while doing so.
The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's
standards except
Harry's.
It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see.
In this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the
word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you
are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it..
period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty
good
at that.

If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant
of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that
the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a
democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut?
I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of
a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the
republican
party position on something.


Isn't the standard style that the identification goes with the
first
use and there after it is not needed? The problem with "journalism"
today is that the political agenda of the journalist determines
which style is used?

Nope. You've got it about as wrong as possible. The first use of a
name in an article should be first and last name, and after that,
the
last name only is used unless it would cause confusion.
AP publishes a style book that most newspapers follow at least
loosely. Some follow it more closely than others. Political
afilliation is not used unless it impacts the story in some
meaningful
way. Spitzer didn't do any of the things he allegedly did because he
is a member of any particular political party, organization, race,
or
religion. All are incidental to the story, so none are prominent in
the stories. They mention that he is married, and has children
because
that DOES help tell the story.

How does getting arrested for tapping your toes while taking a crap
in
an airport bathroom warrant having your political party affiliation
mentioned two or three times in each paragraph when the story is
reported?



Because it is the *Republican Party* that has positioned itself as the
party of *family values* (whatever the hell that is), and that party
that is against gay right, and because Senator Craig was in the
forefront of the GOP battle against gays.

Spitzer got elected based upon his desire to root out corruption and run
and ethical administration. Let's be fair.


Yes, and MUCH has been made of that in the media. In the news biz,
that's called a HOOK or an angle. It's a huge element of the story.
Many people are more incensed about the hypocrisy involved than simply
what he did. I am one of those people.



Right. Like this chart, which doesn't just point out gay behavior, since
that's becoming an accepted thing. It points out the hypocrisy of the
people
involved.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...g?t=1205430117


You are pretty weird sometimes, Kanter.




Have you seen a better one page summary of (as the magazine called it) "Hot
Republican Gay Sex"? :-)