More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.

Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

On Mar 13, 8:17*am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),





wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.

Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...

The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to
win.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls.. Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you
cant;)

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

On Mar 13, 8:31*am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to
win.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls.. Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you
cant;)

Here's a bit from *my* local paper:

Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'

By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01

NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.

With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, time
to make a smooth transition.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *- - -

Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to
win.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls.. Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you
cant;)

Here's a bit from *my* local paper:

Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'

By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01

NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.

With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -

Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..

=================


But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down the
shades while doing so.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

On Mar 13, 8:46*am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:





wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),

wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to
win.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls.. Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you
cant;)

Here's a bit from *my* local paper:

Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'

By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01

NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.

With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -

Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..

=================

But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down the
shades while doing so.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I asked for MSM cites, he provided one.. fair enough..

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

wrote in message
...
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.

Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...


What's the name of your local paper? Could it be one of the Gannet-owned
fish wrappers like we have here? And, are there any clues at the beginning
or end of the article, like the words "Associated Press"?

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls.. Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:

Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'

By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01

NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.

With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -

Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..

=================


But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down the
shades while doing so.



The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards
except Harry's.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls.. Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:

Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'

By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01

NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.

With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -

Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..

=================


But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down the
shades while doing so.

The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards except
Harry's.


It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

On Mar 13, 8:53*am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

. ..





JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls.. Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:

Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'

By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01

NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.

With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -

Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..

=================

But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down the
shades while doing so.

The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards except
Harry's.

It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

. ..





JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in
one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers
in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls..
Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:

Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'

By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01

NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.

With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down
so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will
take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -

Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..

=================

But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not
fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down
the
shades while doing so.

The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards
except
Harry's.

It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.

==================

Crazy idea: Write to the paper and ask why they don't include the word
"Democrat" in articles about Spitzer. You're guessing the reasons. I suspect
they assume (correctly) that smart people already know Spitzer's party
affiliation, and smart people (who have a life) realize it doesn't matter at
all. But, you could find out for sure.

http://www.journalinquirer.com/site/...45 8252&rfi=6

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

. ..





JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did
not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article
left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in
one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting
the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that
do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers
in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls..
Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet
you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:
Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'
By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01
NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday
after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double
life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.
With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized
for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down
so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will
take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson,
time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -
Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..
=================
But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not
fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down
the
shades while doing so.
The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards
except
Harry's.
It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.


The Hartford Courant also identified Spitzer's political party in several
of its articles, as did The Associated Press articles, which many papers
carry. Your Journal Inquirer on the 10th carried an article by Amy
Westfeldt, an AP reporter, that mentioned Spitzer's political party.



There's a clue: I wonder if the AP licensing agreement says the client
newspaper can't alter words in any articles they publish from AP.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

. ..





JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did
not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article
left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in
one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting
the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that
do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers
in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls..
Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet
you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:
Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'
By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01
NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday
after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double
life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.
With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized
for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down
so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will
take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson,
time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -
Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..
=================
But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not
fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down
the
shades while doing so.
The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards
except
Harry's.
It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -
My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.

The Hartford Courant also identified Spitzer's political party in several
of its articles, as did The Associated Press articles, which many papers
carry. Your Journal Inquirer on the 10th carried an article by Amy
Westfeldt, an AP reporter, that mentioned Spitzer's political party.



There's a clue: I wonder if the AP licensing agreement says the client
newspaper can't alter words in any articles they publish from AP.



There's no such agreement. Newspapers cut and edit wire stories as a
matter of course.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

"HK" wrote in message
...

My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.

The Hartford Courant also identified Spitzer's political party in
several of its articles, as did The Associated Press articles, which
many papers carry. Your Journal Inquirer on the 10th carried an article
by Amy Westfeldt, an AP reporter, that mentioned Spitzer's political
party.



There's a clue: I wonder if the AP licensing agreement says the client
newspaper can't alter words in any articles they publish from AP.

There's no such agreement. Newspapers cut and edit wire stories as a
matter of course.


http://www.journalinquirer.com/site/...pitzer&x=0&y=0

A search for "spitzer" turned up 5 results. The first two articles identify
him as a Democrat. The other three do not. This may prove my theory: The
newspaper assumes that unless you're living in a cave, you know by now that
Spitzer's a Democrat.

When I was studying journalism, we were taught to make sure every word we
wrote served the one and only goal: To tell the story.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

. ..





JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did
not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article
left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in
one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the
excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting
the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way
to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that
do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just
plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers
in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls..
Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet
you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:

Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'

By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01

NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a
crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday
after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double
life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.

With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized
for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down
so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will
take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson,
time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -

Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and
BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..

=================

But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not
fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down
the
shades while doing so.

The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards
except
Harry's.

It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.


If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.



Yep. Like this:

"But while the Republican governor limited most of her proposed new spending
to a few criminal justice initiatives, majority Democrats in the legislature
say they want to do a few things Rell did not."

That's an example of the word serving a useful purpose, rather than
justifying some attitude the reader needs to hang onto.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

On Mar 13, 9:34*am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),





wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:53*am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

m...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
....
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls.. Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:

Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'

By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01

NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.

With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -

Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..

=================

But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down the
shades while doing so.

The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards except
Harry's.

It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.

If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah salty, guess I am just ignorant, as is my wife, and my dad, and
the list goes on.... Or how do you psudo-intellectuals put it,
"uninformed"? I guess I should know all the political affiliation of
all the governors around here as being from New York, he must be a
dem, that goes without saying.. oh wait, can you say Bloomberg?

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

On Mar 13, 9:52*am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:39:06 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"





wrote:
wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

news:ZM6dnQQBGJp4v0TanZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@comcast. com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did
not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article
left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in
one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges...
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the
excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting
the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way
to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that
do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just
plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers
in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls...
Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet
you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:

Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'

By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01

NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a
crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday
after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double
life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.

With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized
for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down
so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will
take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson,
time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -

Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and
BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..

=================

But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not
fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down
the
shades while doing so.

The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards
except
Harry's.

It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.

If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.

Yep. Like this:

"But while the Republican governor limited most of her proposed new spending
to a few criminal justice initiatives, majority Democrats in the legislature
say they want to do a few things Rell did not."

That's an example of the word serving a useful purpose, rather than
justifying some attitude the reader needs to hang onto.

And I'd be willing to bet that it was way down in the story. If the
newshole is small, they cut from the bottom. Newspaper reporters are
taught to write their stories with the most important information
early, and the filler afterwards in case of the very likely event that
it needs to be shortened without harming the overall meaning. In the
days of actual "paste up" this sort of chopping from the bottom to
make things fit was usually done "on the fly" by the compositors
pasting up the pages, not actual editors in the newsroom.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You must mean the "overall meaning" of leaving all the felony charges
out, to make room for the account of how his wife must feel? Pfffftt..

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 9:34 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),





wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

m...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did
not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article
left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in
one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the
excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news,
Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting
the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks,
bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way
to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that
do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just
plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the
drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going
to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls..
Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet
you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:

Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'

By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01

NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a
crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday
after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double
life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.

With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized
for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping
down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will
take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson,
time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -

Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and
BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..

=================

But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not
fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull
down the
shades while doing so.

The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards
except
Harry's.

It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.

If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah salty, guess I am just ignorant, as is my wife, and my dad, and
the list goes on.... Or how do you psudo-intellectuals put it,
"uninformed"? I guess I should know all the political affiliation of
all the governors around here as being from New York, he must be a
dem, that goes without saying.. oh wait, can you say Bloomberg?

======================

Here's another way to look at it: Why do you think his party affiliation
even matters, compared to all the other facts surrounding the story?

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

wrote in message
...
"But while the Republican governor limited most of her proposed new
spending
to a few criminal justice initiatives, majority Democrats in the
legislature
say they want to do a few things Rell did not."

That's an example of the word serving a useful purpose, rather than
justifying some attitude the reader needs to hang onto.

And I'd be willing to bet that it was way down in the story. If the
newshole is small, they cut from the bottom. Newspaper reporters are
taught to write their stories with the most important information
early, and the filler afterwards in case of the very likely event that
it needs to be shortened without harming the overall meaning. In the
days of actual "paste up" this sort of chopping from the bottom to
make things fit was usually done "on the fly" by the compositors
pasting up the pages, not actual editors in the newsroom.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

You must mean the "overall meaning" of leaving all the felony charges
out, to make room for the account of how his wife must feel? Pfffftt..

===========================

Depends on what day you're referring to. If it's today's story, the correct
assumption is that you've already seen all the information about felony
charges since the story began. If you haven't, you should know where to find
it.

Also, the newspaper you've been ordered to dislike often puts related story
links in a sidebar, so you can explore further. Example:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/13/ny...hp&oref=slogin

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:39:06 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

wrote in message
. ..
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

. ..





JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did
not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article
left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution
in
one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible
charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the
excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news,
Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting
the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks,
bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way
to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country
that
do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just
plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the
drivers
in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going
to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone
calls..
Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet
you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:

Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'

By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01

NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a
crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday
after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double
life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.

With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized
for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping
down
so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation
will
take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson,
time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -

Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and
BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..

=================

But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is
not
fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull
down
the
shades while doing so.

The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards
except
Harry's.

It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In
this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -

My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.


If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.



Yep. Like this:

"But while the Republican governor limited most of her proposed new
spending
to a few criminal justice initiatives, majority Democrats in the
legislature
say they want to do a few things Rell did not."

That's an example of the word serving a useful purpose, rather than
justifying some attitude the reader needs to hang onto.


And I'd be willing to bet that it was way down in the story. If the
newshole is small, they cut from the bottom. Newspaper reporters are
taught to write their stories with the most important information
early, and the filler afterwards in case of the very likely event that
it needs to be shortened without harming the overall meaning. In the
days of actual "paste up" this sort of chopping from the bottom to
make things fit was usually done "on the fly" by the compositors
pasting up the pages, not actual editors in the newsroom.



Yeah, it was way down in the story. And, the articles by that paper's staff
writers are well done for the most part. They follow rule #1: Summarize the
story in the first paragraph so the reader can decide if it's something he
wants to continue reading.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

Crazy idea: Write to the paper and ask why they don't include the word
"Democrat" in articles about Spitzer. You're guessing the reasons. I suspect
they assume (correctly) that smart people already know Spitzer's party
affiliation, and smart people (who have a life) realize it doesn't matter at
all. But, you could find out for sure.

http://www.journalinquirer.com/site/...45 8252&rfi=6



You claim to be a smart guy. When you read an article about a Governor
involved with prostitutes and the Governor's political party affiliation
is not provided in the article you can only come to one conclusion.

It's all about consistency and fairness. Either you provided the
political party affiliation for all elected officials or for no elected
officials. Providing political party affiliation for some and not others
shows bias.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 9:34 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),





wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did
not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article
left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in
one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the
excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news,
Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting
the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks,
bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way
to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that
do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just
plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the
drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going
to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls..
Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet
you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:
Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'
By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01
NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a
crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday
after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double
life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.
With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized
for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping
down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will
take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson,
time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -
Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and
BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..
=================
But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not
fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull
down the
shades while doing so.
The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards
except
Harry's.
It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted
text -
- Show quoted text -
My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.
If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah salty, guess I am just ignorant, as is my wife, and my dad, and
the list goes on.... Or how do you psudo-intellectuals put it,
"uninformed"? I guess I should know all the political affiliation of
all the governors around here as being from New York, he must be a
dem, that goes without saying.. oh wait, can you say Bloomberg?

======================

Here's another way to look at it: Why do you think his party affiliation
even matters, compared to all the other facts surrounding the story?

It is used at every oppourtunity when describing a Republican who has
gone afoul of rules, laws and ethics. But, it is somehow not deemed
important when a Deomcrat runs afould of rules, laws or ethics.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

Crazy idea: Write to the paper and ask why they don't include the word
"Democrat" in articles about Spitzer. You're guessing the reasons. I
suspect they assume (correctly) that smart people already know Spitzer's
party affiliation, and smart people (who have a life) realize it doesn't
matter at all. But, you could find out for sure.

http://www.journalinquirer.com/site/...45 8252&rfi=6



You claim to be a smart guy. When you read an article about a Governor
involved with prostitutes and the Governor's political party affiliation
is not provided in the article you can only come to one conclusion.

It's all about consistency and fairness. Either you provided the political
party affiliation for all elected officials or for no elected officials.
Providing political party affiliation for some and not others shows bias.


Think about articles you're seeing about Spitzer TODAY. Not yesterday or the
day before. ***TODAY***

Now, tell me why mentioning his party affiliation TODAY adds any meaningful
content. I'm the journalism professor, you're the student. Why would you
include that information TODAY, knowing that it had already been mentioned
plenty in prior days.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Crazy idea: Write to the paper and ask why they don't include the word
"Democrat" in articles about Spitzer. You're guessing the reasons. I
suspect they assume (correctly) that smart people already know Spitzer's
party affiliation, and smart people (who have a life) realize it doesn't
matter at all. But, you could find out for sure.

http://www.journalinquirer.com/site/...45 8252&rfi=6


You claim to be a smart guy. When you read an article about a Governor
involved with prostitutes and the Governor's political party affiliation
is not provided in the article you can only come to one conclusion.

It's all about consistency and fairness. Either you provided the political
party affiliation for all elected officials or for no elected officials.
Providing political party affiliation for some and not others shows bias.


Think about articles you're seeing about Spitzer TODAY. Not yesterday or the
day before. ***TODAY***

Now, tell me why mentioning his party affiliation TODAY adds any meaningful
content. I'm the journalism professor, you're the student. Why would you
include that information TODAY, knowing that it had already been mentioned
plenty in prior days.

Either you are consistent and you identify the political party
affiliation of everyone or no one. The fact that his name has been in
the news quite a bit lately and we can forgo identificaiton isn't in any
of the style guides.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

On Mar 13, 12:36*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

. ..





JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

Crazy idea: Write to the paper and ask why they don't include the word
"Democrat" in articles about Spitzer. You're guessing the reasons. I
suspect they assume (correctly) that smart people already know Spitzer's
party affiliation, and smart people (who have a life) realize it doesn't
matter at all. But, you could find out for sure.

http://www.journalinquirer.com/site/...2741&BRD=985&P...

You claim to be a smart guy. When you read an article about a Governor
involved with prostitutes and the Governor's political party affiliation
is not provided in the article you can only come to one conclusion.

It's all about consistency and fairness. Either you provided the political
party affiliation for all elected officials or for no elected officials.
Providing political party affiliation for some and not others shows bias..

Think about articles you're seeing about Spitzer TODAY. Not yesterday or the
day before. ***TODAY***

Now, tell me why mentioning his party affiliation TODAY adds any meaningful
content. I'm the journalism professor, you're the student. Why would you
include that information TODAY, knowing that it had already been mentioned
plenty in prior days.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I would if we were discussing media bias, knowing that papers' history
as I do..

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Crazy idea: Write to the paper and ask why they don't include the word
"Democrat" in articles about Spitzer. You're guessing the reasons. I
suspect they assume (correctly) that smart people already know
Spitzer's party affiliation, and smart people (who have a life) realize
it doesn't matter at all. But, you could find out for sure.

http://www.journalinquirer.com/site/...45 8252&rfi=6


You claim to be a smart guy. When you read an article about a Governor
involved with prostitutes and the Governor's political party affiliation
is not provided in the article you can only come to one conclusion.

It's all about consistency and fairness. Either you provided the
political party affiliation for all elected officials or for no elected
officials. Providing political party affiliation for some and not others
shows bias.


Think about articles you're seeing about Spitzer TODAY. Not yesterday or
the day before. ***TODAY***

Now, tell me why mentioning his party affiliation TODAY adds any
meaningful content. I'm the journalism professor, you're the student. Why
would you include that information TODAY, knowing that it had already
been mentioned plenty in prior days.

Either you are consistent and you identify the political party affiliation
of everyone or no one. The fact that his name has been in the news quite a
bit lately and we can forgo identificaiton isn't in any of the style
guides.


Which style guides are you referring to?

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

On Mar 13, 12:44*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:14:10 -0400, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

news:ZM6dnQQBGJp4v0TanZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@comcast. com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges...
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls... Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:
Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'
By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01
NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.
With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -
Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..
=================
But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down the
shades while doing so.
The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards except
Harry's.
It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.

If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.

Isn't the standard style that the identification goes with the first use
and there after it is not needed? The problem with "journalism" today is
that the political agenda of the journalist determines which style is used?

Nope. You've got it about as wrong as possible. The first use of a
name in an article should be first and last name, and after that, the
last name only is used unless it would cause confusion.

AP publishes a style book that most newspapers follow at least
loosely. Some follow it more closely than others. Political
afilliation is not used unless it impacts the story in some meaningful
way. Spitzer didn't do any of the things he allegedly did because he
is a member of any particular political party, organization, race, or
religion. All are incidental to the story, so none are prominent in
the stories. They mention that he is married, and has children because
that DOES help tell the story.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Then why did the Chicago paper and ABC news only mention "GOP" and
"Republican" in their stories.. Was that in line with your "rules" or
was it to confuse the readers who are not as informed as to what party
Spitzer belongs to?

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

On Mar 13, 12:52*pm, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:14:10 -0400, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

news:ZM6dnQQBGJp4v0TanZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@comcast .com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges...
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls... Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:
Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'
By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01
NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.
With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -
Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..
=================
But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down the
shades while doing so.
The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards except
Harry's.
It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.

If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.

Isn't the standard style that the identification goes with the first use
and there after it is not needed? The problem with "journalism" today is
that the political agenda of the journalist determines which style is used?

Nope. You've got it about as wrong as possible. The first use of a
name in an article should be first and last name, and after that, the
last name only is used unless it would cause confusion.

AP publishes a style book that most newspapers follow at least
loosely. Some follow it more closely than others. Political
afilliation is not used unless it impacts the story in some meaningful
way. Spitzer didn't do any of the things he allegedly did because he
is a member of any particular political party, organization, race, or
religion. All are incidental to the story, so none are prominent in
the stories. They mention that he is married, and has children because
that DOES help tell the story.

How does getting arrested for tapping your toes while taking a crap in
an airport bathroom warrant having your political party affiliation
mentioned two or three times in each paragraph when the story is reported?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

These guys will make more excuses. It is obvious that we are dealing
with intellectually dishonest political hacks, either that, or they
are seriously uninformed.. Either way, I'm out..

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

BAR wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
Crazy idea: Write to the paper and ask why they don't include the
word "Democrat" in articles about Spitzer. You're guessing the
reasons. I suspect they assume (correctly) that smart people already
know Spitzer's party affiliation, and smart people (who have a life)
realize it doesn't matter at all. But, you could find out for sure.

http://www.journalinquirer.com/site/...45 8252&rfi=6



You claim to be a smart guy. When you read an article about a
Governor involved with prostitutes and the Governor's political party
affiliation is not provided in the article you can only come to one
conclusion.

It's all about consistency and fairness. Either you provided the
political party affiliation for all elected officials or for no
elected officials. Providing political party affiliation for some and
not others shows bias.


Think about articles you're seeing about Spitzer TODAY. Not yesterday
or the day before. ***TODAY***

Now, tell me why mentioning his party affiliation TODAY adds any
meaningful content. I'm the journalism professor, you're the student.
Why would you include that information TODAY, knowing that it had
already been mentioned plenty in prior days.

Either you are consistent and you identify the political party
affiliation of everyone or no one. The fact that his name has been in
the news quite a bit lately and we can forgo identificaiton isn't in any
of the style guides.


Hmmm. "George W. Bush, the lying, incompetent and dumb *Republican*
POTUS..."

Yeah, that works.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 12:36 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

. ..





JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

Crazy idea: Write to the paper and ask why they don't include the word
"Democrat" in articles about Spitzer. You're guessing the reasons. I
suspect they assume (correctly) that smart people already know
Spitzer's
party affiliation, and smart people (who have a life) realize it
doesn't
matter at all. But, you could find out for sure.

http://www.journalinquirer.com/site/...2741&BRD=985&P...

You claim to be a smart guy. When you read an article about a Governor
involved with prostitutes and the Governor's political party affiliation
is not provided in the article you can only come to one conclusion.

It's all about consistency and fairness. Either you provided the
political
party affiliation for all elected officials or for no elected officials.
Providing political party affiliation for some and not others shows
bias.

Think about articles you're seeing about Spitzer TODAY. Not yesterday or
the
day before. ***TODAY***

Now, tell me why mentioning his party affiliation TODAY adds any
meaningful
content. I'm the journalism professor, you're the student. Why would you
include that information TODAY, knowing that it had already been mentioned
plenty in prior days.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I would if we were discussing media bias, knowing that papers' history
as I do..

=======================

I'm talking about writing an article, not discussing an article or a
newspaper.

Three days into a story that's been all over the media, what important
meaning or content is contributed by including "democrat" when describing
Spitzer?

Important words to focus on in that last question:

WHEN
DESCRIBING
SPITZER

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

"BAR" wrote in message
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JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 9:34 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),





wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did
not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article
left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in
one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the
excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news,
Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting
the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks,
bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way
to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that
do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just
plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the
drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going
to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls..
Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet
you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:
Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'
By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01
NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a
crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday
after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double
life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.
With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized
for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping
down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will
take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson,
time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -
Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and
BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..
=================
But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not
fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull
down the
shades while doing so.
The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards
except
Harry's.
It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In
this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted
text -
- Show quoted text -
My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.
If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah salty, guess I am just ignorant, as is my wife, and my dad, and
the list goes on.... Or how do you psudo-intellectuals put it,
"uninformed"? I guess I should know all the political affiliation of
all the governors around here as being from New York, he must be a
dem, that goes without saying.. oh wait, can you say Bloomberg?

======================

Here's another way to look at it: Why do you think his party affiliation
even matters, compared to all the other facts surrounding the story?

It is used at every oppourtunity when describing a Republican who has gone
afoul of rules, laws and ethics. But, it is somehow not deemed important
when a Deomcrat runs afould of rules, laws or ethics.



Not true. You're generalizing based on what you want to believe.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:14:10 -0400, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

. ..





JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did
not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article
left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution
in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible
charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the
excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news,
Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting
the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks,
bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way
to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country
that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just
plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the
drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going
to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone
calls.. Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet
you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:
Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'
By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01
NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a
crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday
after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double
life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.
With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized
for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping
down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation
will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson,
time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -
Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and
BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..
=================
But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is
not fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull
down the
shades while doing so.
The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards
except
Harry's.
It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In
this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -
My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.

If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.


Isn't the standard style that the identification goes with the first use
and there after it is not needed? The problem with "journalism" today is
that the political agenda of the journalist determines which style is
used?

Nope. You've got it about as wrong as possible. The first use of a
name in an article should be first and last name, and after that, the
last name only is used unless it would cause confusion. AP publishes a
style book that most newspapers follow at least
loosely. Some follow it more closely than others. Political
afilliation is not used unless it impacts the story in some meaningful
way. Spitzer didn't do any of the things he allegedly did because he
is a member of any particular political party, organization, race, or
religion. All are incidental to the story, so none are prominent in
the stories. They mention that he is married, and has children because
that DOES help tell the story.

How does getting arrested for tapping your toes while taking a crap in an
airport bathroom warrant having your political party affiliation mentioned
two or three times in each paragraph when the story is reported?



You might be right. Show me an article in which that happened. If it really
happened, there's a 100% chance that I'll agree with you.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:14:10 -0400, BAR wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

. ..





JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies,
did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the
article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the
prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible
charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the
excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news,
Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest
protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers
folks, bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever
way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country
that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just
plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the
drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is
going to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone
calls.. Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me.
Bet you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:
Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'
By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01
NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a
crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation
Wednesday after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his
double life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.
With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer
apologized for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping
down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation
will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A.
Paterson, time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -
Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks,
and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..
=================
But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is
not fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull
down the
shades while doing so.
The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's
standards except
Harry's.
It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In
this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.

If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.


Isn't the standard style that the identification goes with the first
use and there after it is not needed? The problem with "journalism"
today is that the political agenda of the journalist determines which
style is used?

Nope. You've got it about as wrong as possible. The first use of a
name in an article should be first and last name, and after that, the
last name only is used unless it would cause confusion.
AP publishes a style book that most newspapers follow at least
loosely. Some follow it more closely than others. Political
afilliation is not used unless it impacts the story in some meaningful
way. Spitzer didn't do any of the things he allegedly did because he
is a member of any particular political party, organization, race, or
religion. All are incidental to the story, so none are prominent in
the stories. They mention that he is married, and has children because
that DOES help tell the story.

How does getting arrested for tapping your toes while taking a crap in
an airport bathroom warrant having your political party affiliation
mentioned two or three times in each paragraph when the story is reported?



Because it is the *Republican Party* that has positioned itself as the
party of *family values* (whatever the hell that is), and that party
that is against gay right, and because Senator Craig was in the
forefront of the GOP battle against gays.

I now believe the more a politician or minister protests against gays
and gay rights, the more likely that person is either a gay still in the
closet or a child molester. :)

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

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...
On Mar 13, 12:44 pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:14:10 -0400, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

news:ZM6dnQQBGJp4v0TanZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@comcast. com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did
not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article
left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution
in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible
charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the
excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news,
Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting
the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks,
bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way
to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country
that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just
plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the
drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going
to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone
calls.. Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet
you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:
Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'
By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01
NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a
crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday
after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double
life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.
With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized
for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping
down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation
will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson,
time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -
Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and
BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio..
=================
But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is
not fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull
down the
shades while doing so.
The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards
except
Harry's.
It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In
this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -
My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.

If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.

Isn't the standard style that the identification goes with the first use
and there after it is not needed? The problem with "journalism" today is
that the political agenda of the journalist determines which style is
used?

Nope. You've got it about as wrong as possible. The first use of a
name in an article should be first and last name, and after that, the
last name only is used unless it would cause confusion.

AP publishes a style book that most newspapers follow at least
loosely. Some follow it more closely than others. Political
afilliation is not used unless it impacts the story in some meaningful
way. Spitzer didn't do any of the things he allegedly did because he
is a member of any particular political party, organization, race, or
religion. All are incidental to the story, so none are prominent in
the stories. They mention that he is married, and has children because
that DOES help tell the story.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Then why did the Chicago paper and ABC news only mention "GOP" and
"Republican" in their stories.. Was that in line with your "rules" or
was it to confuse the readers who are not as informed as to what party
Spitzer belongs to?

===============================

Which specific stories? Without reading them, nobody can properly discuss
them. We need links.

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

Then why did the Chicago paper and ABC news only mention "GOP" and
"Republican" in their stories.. Was that in line with your "rules" or
was it to confuse the readers who are not as informed as to what party
Spitzer belongs to?-

Well?

More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
 

On Mar 13, 1:09*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:53:50 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:





On Mar 13, 12:44*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:14:10 -0400, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message

news:ZM6dnQQBGJp4v0TanZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@comcast. com...

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not
make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left
out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one
paragraph. Completely ignoring the
Wire fraud
Mail fraud
Money structuring
Mann act
and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges..
Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses.
Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard.
I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch.
Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal
Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet).
Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the
DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet
they
are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to
associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do
not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam...
The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain
laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers in
the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to
win.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls.. Did
your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you
cant;)
Here's a bit from *my* local paper:
Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor
Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings'
By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01
NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising
*Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading
reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday after
being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double life
as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes.
With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized for
what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down so
as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will take
effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, time
to make a smooth transition.
- - -
Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW,
like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio...
=================
But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not fair
and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down the
shades while doing so.
The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards except
Harry's.
It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this
case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word
"Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are
lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period..
stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good
at that.

If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of
your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the
fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK,
where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat
every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word
Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I
think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is
actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a
headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican
party position on something.

Isn't the standard style that the identification goes with the first use
and there after it is not needed? The problem with "journalism" today is
that the political agenda of the journalist determines which style is used?

Nope. You've got it about as wrong as possible. The first use of a
name in an article should be first and last name, and after that, the
last name only is used unless it would cause confusion.

AP publishes a style book that most newspapers follow at least
loosely. Some follow it more closely than others. Political
afilliation is not used unless it impacts the story in some meaningful
way. Spitzer didn't do any of the things he allegedly did because he
is a member of any particular political party, organization, race, or
religion. All are incidental to the story, so none are prominent in
the stories. They mention that he is married, and has children because
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Then why did the Chicago paper and ABC news only mention "GOP" and
"Republican" in their stories.. Was that in line with your "rules" or
was it to confuse the readers who are not as informed as to what party
Spitzer belongs to?

I have no idea hat you are jabbering about. If someone identified
Spitzer as a Republican, then they simply screwed up. At one of the
newspapers I used to run, we frequently got letters from a very
elderly former school teacher who would send us corrections of all the
typos she found in our classifieds. I've also seen editing notes end
up running in the paper.

Lets not overlook the famous "Dewey Wins" and "Perot Wins" headlines!

One of my favorite bloopers of all time was at one of my papers. It
was a Headline that said: "POPULAR LOCAL COUPLE ASSUMES MISSIONARY
POSITION"

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No, links were posted yesterday. The only mention of party in the
Chicago paper was the headline which read "GOP demands Spitzer resign"
and the ABC news identified a "Republican" legislator who commented on
the issue.. I really can't continue with you with your deflections and
name calling, I don't really expect a coherant answer here either.. I
am going outside to play with the gardens..