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More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
On Mar 13, 12:44*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:14:10 -0400, BAR wrote: wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:ZM6dnQQBGJp4v0TanZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote: wrote: On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one paragraph. Completely ignoring the Wire fraud Mail fraud Money structuring Mann act and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges... Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses. Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard. I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch. Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet). Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet they are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam... The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers in the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to win.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls... Did your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you cant;) Here's a bit from *my* local paper: Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings' By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson Washington Post Staff Writers Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01 NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising *Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday after being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double life as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes. With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized for what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down so as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will take effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, time to make a smooth transition. - - - Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW, like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio.. ================= But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not fair and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down the shades while doing so. The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards except Harry's. It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word "Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period.. stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good at that. If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK, where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican party position on something. Isn't the standard style that the identification goes with the first use and there after it is not needed? The problem with "journalism" today is that the political agenda of the journalist determines which style is used? Nope. You've got it about as wrong as possible. The first use of a name in an article should be first and last name, and after that, the last name only is used unless it would cause confusion. AP publishes a style book that most newspapers follow at least loosely. Some follow it more closely than others. Political afilliation is not used unless it impacts the story in some meaningful way. Spitzer didn't do any of the things he allegedly did because he is a member of any particular political party, organization, race, or religion. All are incidental to the story, so none are prominent in the stories. They mention that he is married, and has children because that DOES help tell the story.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then why did the Chicago paper and ABC news only mention "GOP" and "Republican" in their stories.. Was that in line with your "rules" or was it to confuse the readers who are not as informed as to what party Spitzer belongs to? |
More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
On Mar 13, 12:52*pm, BAR wrote:
wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:14:10 -0400, BAR wrote: wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:ZM6dnQQBGJp4v0TanZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@comcast .com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote: wrote: On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one paragraph. Completely ignoring the Wire fraud Mail fraud Money structuring Mann act and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges... Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses. Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard. I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch. Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet). Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet they are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam... The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers in the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to win.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls... Did your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you cant;) Here's a bit from *my* local paper: Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings' By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson Washington Post Staff Writers Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01 NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising *Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday after being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double life as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes. With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized for what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down so as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will take effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, time to make a smooth transition. - - - Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW, like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio.. ================= But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not fair and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down the shades while doing so. The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards except Harry's. It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word "Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period.. stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good at that. If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK, where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican party position on something. Isn't the standard style that the identification goes with the first use and there after it is not needed? The problem with "journalism" today is that the political agenda of the journalist determines which style is used? Nope. You've got it about as wrong as possible. The first use of a name in an article should be first and last name, and after that, the last name only is used unless it would cause confusion. AP publishes a style book that most newspapers follow at least loosely. Some follow it more closely than others. Political afilliation is not used unless it impacts the story in some meaningful way. Spitzer didn't do any of the things he allegedly did because he is a member of any particular political party, organization, race, or religion. All are incidental to the story, so none are prominent in the stories. They mention that he is married, and has children because that DOES help tell the story. How does getting arrested for tapping your toes while taking a crap in an airport bathroom warrant having your political party affiliation mentioned two or three times in each paragraph when the story is reported?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - These guys will make more excuses. It is obvious that we are dealing with intellectually dishonest political hacks, either that, or they are seriously uninformed.. Either way, I'm out.. |
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BAR wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: Crazy idea: Write to the paper and ask why they don't include the word "Democrat" in articles about Spitzer. You're guessing the reasons. I suspect they assume (correctly) that smart people already know Spitzer's party affiliation, and smart people (who have a life) realize it doesn't matter at all. But, you could find out for sure. http://www.journalinquirer.com/site/...45 8252&rfi=6 You claim to be a smart guy. When you read an article about a Governor involved with prostitutes and the Governor's political party affiliation is not provided in the article you can only come to one conclusion. It's all about consistency and fairness. Either you provided the political party affiliation for all elected officials or for no elected officials. Providing political party affiliation for some and not others shows bias. Think about articles you're seeing about Spitzer TODAY. Not yesterday or the day before. ***TODAY*** Now, tell me why mentioning his party affiliation TODAY adds any meaningful content. I'm the journalism professor, you're the student. Why would you include that information TODAY, knowing that it had already been mentioned plenty in prior days. Either you are consistent and you identify the political party affiliation of everyone or no one. The fact that his name has been in the news quite a bit lately and we can forgo identificaiton isn't in any of the style guides. Hmmm. "George W. Bush, the lying, incompetent and dumb *Republican* POTUS..." Yeah, that works. |
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... On Mar 13, 12:36 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: Crazy idea: Write to the paper and ask why they don't include the word "Democrat" in articles about Spitzer. You're guessing the reasons. I suspect they assume (correctly) that smart people already know Spitzer's party affiliation, and smart people (who have a life) realize it doesn't matter at all. But, you could find out for sure. http://www.journalinquirer.com/site/...2741&BRD=985&P... You claim to be a smart guy. When you read an article about a Governor involved with prostitutes and the Governor's political party affiliation is not provided in the article you can only come to one conclusion. It's all about consistency and fairness. Either you provided the political party affiliation for all elected officials or for no elected officials. Providing political party affiliation for some and not others shows bias. Think about articles you're seeing about Spitzer TODAY. Not yesterday or the day before. ***TODAY*** Now, tell me why mentioning his party affiliation TODAY adds any meaningful content. I'm the journalism professor, you're the student. Why would you include that information TODAY, knowing that it had already been mentioned plenty in prior days.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I would if we were discussing media bias, knowing that papers' history as I do.. ======================= I'm talking about writing an article, not discussing an article or a newspaper. Three days into a story that's been all over the media, what important meaning or content is contributed by including "democrat" when describing Spitzer? Important words to focus on in that last question: WHEN DESCRIBING SPITZER |
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. .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 9:34 am, wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote: wrote: On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one paragraph. Completely ignoring the Wire fraud Mail fraud Money structuring Mann act and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges.. Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses. Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard. I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch. Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet). Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet they are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam... The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers in the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to win.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls.. Did your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you cant;) Here's a bit from *my* local paper: Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings' By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson Washington Post Staff Writers Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01 NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising *Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday after being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double life as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes. With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized for what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down so as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will take effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, time to make a smooth transition. - - - Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW, like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio.. ================= But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not fair and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down the shades while doing so. The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards except Harry's. It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word "Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period.. stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good at that. If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK, where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican party position on something.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah salty, guess I am just ignorant, as is my wife, and my dad, and the list goes on.... Or how do you psudo-intellectuals put it, "uninformed"? I guess I should know all the political affiliation of all the governors around here as being from New York, he must be a dem, that goes without saying.. oh wait, can you say Bloomberg? ====================== Here's another way to look at it: Why do you think his party affiliation even matters, compared to all the other facts surrounding the story? It is used at every oppourtunity when describing a Republican who has gone afoul of rules, laws and ethics. But, it is somehow not deemed important when a Deomcrat runs afould of rules, laws or ethics. Not true. You're generalizing based on what you want to believe. |
More deception from the left and the useless MSM.
BAR wrote:
wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:14:10 -0400, BAR wrote: wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message . .. JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote: wrote: On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one paragraph. Completely ignoring the Wire fraud Mail fraud Money structuring Mann act and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges.. Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses. Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard. I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch. Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet). Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet they are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam... The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers in the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to win.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls.. Did your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you cant;) Here's a bit from *my* local paper: Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings' By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson Washington Post Staff Writers Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01 NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising *Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday after being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double life as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes. With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized for what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down so as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will take effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, time to make a smooth transition. - - - Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW, like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio.. ================= But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not fair and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down the shades while doing so. The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards except Harry's. It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word "Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period.. stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good at that. If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK, where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican party position on something. Isn't the standard style that the identification goes with the first use and there after it is not needed? The problem with "journalism" today is that the political agenda of the journalist determines which style is used? Nope. You've got it about as wrong as possible. The first use of a name in an article should be first and last name, and after that, the last name only is used unless it would cause confusion. AP publishes a style book that most newspapers follow at least loosely. Some follow it more closely than others. Political afilliation is not used unless it impacts the story in some meaningful way. Spitzer didn't do any of the things he allegedly did because he is a member of any particular political party, organization, race, or religion. All are incidental to the story, so none are prominent in the stories. They mention that he is married, and has children because that DOES help tell the story. How does getting arrested for tapping your toes while taking a crap in an airport bathroom warrant having your political party affiliation mentioned two or three times in each paragraph when the story is reported? Because it is the *Republican Party* that has positioned itself as the party of *family values* (whatever the hell that is), and that party that is against gay right, and because Senator Craig was in the forefront of the GOP battle against gays. I now believe the more a politician or minister protests against gays and gay rights, the more likely that person is either a gay still in the closet or a child molester. :) |
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... On Mar 13, 12:44 pm, wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:14:10 -0400, BAR wrote: wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:ZM6dnQQBGJp4v0TanZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote: wrote: On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one paragraph. Completely ignoring the Wire fraud Mail fraud Money structuring Mann act and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges.. Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses. Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard. I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch. Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet). Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet they are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam... The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers in the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to win.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls.. Did your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you cant;) Here's a bit from *my* local paper: Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings' By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson Washington Post Staff Writers Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01 NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising *Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday after being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double life as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes. With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized for what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down so as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will take effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, time to make a smooth transition. - - - Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW, like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio.. ================= But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not fair and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down the shades while doing so. The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards except Harry's. It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word "Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period.. stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good at that. If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK, where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican party position on something. Isn't the standard style that the identification goes with the first use and there after it is not needed? The problem with "journalism" today is that the political agenda of the journalist determines which style is used? Nope. You've got it about as wrong as possible. The first use of a name in an article should be first and last name, and after that, the last name only is used unless it would cause confusion. AP publishes a style book that most newspapers follow at least loosely. Some follow it more closely than others. Political afilliation is not used unless it impacts the story in some meaningful way. Spitzer didn't do any of the things he allegedly did because he is a member of any particular political party, organization, race, or religion. All are incidental to the story, so none are prominent in the stories. They mention that he is married, and has children because that DOES help tell the story.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then why did the Chicago paper and ABC news only mention "GOP" and "Republican" in their stories.. Was that in line with your "rules" or was it to confuse the readers who are not as informed as to what party Spitzer belongs to? =============================== Which specific stories? Without reading them, nobody can properly discuss them. We need links. |
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Then why did the Chicago paper and ABC news only mention "GOP" and "Republican" in their stories.. Was that in line with your "rules" or was it to confuse the readers who are not as informed as to what party Spitzer belongs to?- Well? |
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On Mar 13, 1:09*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:53:50 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Mar 13, 12:44*pm, wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 12:14:10 -0400, BAR wrote: wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:09:43 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Mar 13, 8:53 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "BAR" wrote in message news:ZM6dnQQBGJp4v0TanZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d@comcast. com... JoeSpareBedroom wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 8:31 am, HK wrote: wrote: On Mar 13, 8:17 am, wrote: On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 05:05:37 -0700 (PDT), wrote: Our local paper which basically trumpets the New York Lies, did not make one mention of Spitzers party, not only that, the article left out all the possible felonies and only noted the prostitution in one paragraph. Completely ignoring the Wire fraud Mail fraud Money structuring Mann act and all of the other felonies included in the possible charges.. Here we go again, "it's all about the sex". Here come the excuses. Americans deserve better than that kind of double standard. I still say he will be back, stronger than ever.. you watch. Just keeping count, you have the Chicago paper, ABC news, Journal Inquirer (our local DNC ragsheet). Anyone else have any expamples of local news outlest protecting the DNC on this one to add to this list? Check your papers folks, bet they are doing the same. Some are even worse, trying in a clever way to associate the GOP with Spitzer for those around the country that do not know what party Spitzer was, it is quite a scam... The idea that there is any collusion among newspapers is just plain laughable. Not much different than suggesting that all the drivers in the Indy 500 get together ahead of time and decide who is going to win.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You don't think the DNC has enough folks to make the phone calls.. Did your local paper mention he was a dem? If so, please link me. Bet you cant;) Here's a bit from *my* local paper: Spitzer to Step Down as N.Y. Governor Embattled *Democrat* Apologizes for His 'Private Failings' By Keith B. Richburg and Carrie Johnson Washington Post Staff Writers Thursday, March 13, 2008; A01 NEW YORK, March 12 -- New York Gov. Eliot L. Spitzer, a rising *Democratic* Party star who won election 16 months ago as a crusading reformer against corruption, announced his resignation Wednesday after being ensnared in a federal investigation that exposed his double life as a longtime regular client of high-priced prostitutes. With his wife, Silda Wall Spitzer, at his side, Spitzer apologized for what he said were "my private failings" and said he is stepping down so as not to "disrupt the people's work." He said the resignation will take effect Monday, to give his successor, Lt. Gov. David A. Paterson, time to make a smooth transition. - - - Time for you to check Rush for your next idiotic accusation.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Good, I will add it to the list, so far we are 3-1... Thanks, and BTW, like I said before, Rush bores me, I don't listen to talk radio... ================= But....doesn't the mother ship claim that the Washington Post is not fair and balanced? Are you allowed to read it? You might want to pull down the shades while doing so. The Washington Post is not fair and balanced by anyone's standards except Harry's. It's fair when the person reading it sees what he wants to see. In this case, it made JWFM happy because it associated Spitzer with the word "Democratic". Tomorrow, it may not please him as much.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My paper is the Journal Inquirer... Hartford CT area.. And you are lieing again, I never said I was happy, I just noted it.. period.. stop putting words in my mouth. You and Harrry seem to be pretty good at that. If you live in New England, you would have to be pretty ignorant of your surroundings not to know who Elliot Spitzer is. Add to that the fact that the stories you are looking at are filed from NEW YORK, where it would be pretty silly to mention that Spitzer is a democrat every time his name is printed. How often do they put the word Republican after the name of Jodie Rell, Governor of Connecticut? I think you'll find that they occasionally mention it when it is actually pertinent to the story, and pretty much never as part of a headline or lead paragraph unless it's a story about the republican party position on something. Isn't the standard style that the identification goes with the first use and there after it is not needed? The problem with "journalism" today is that the political agenda of the journalist determines which style is used? Nope. You've got it about as wrong as possible. The first use of a name in an article should be first and last name, and after that, the last name only is used unless it would cause confusion. AP publishes a style book that most newspapers follow at least loosely. Some follow it more closely than others. Political afilliation is not used unless it impacts the story in some meaningful way. Spitzer didn't do any of the things he allegedly did because he is a member of any particular political party, organization, race, or religion. All are incidental to the story, so none are prominent in the stories. They mention that he is married, and has children because that DOES help tell the story.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Then why did the Chicago paper and ABC news only mention "GOP" and "Republican" in their stories.. Was that in line with your "rules" or was it to confuse the readers who are not as informed as to what party Spitzer belongs to? I have no idea hat you are jabbering about. If someone identified Spitzer as a Republican, then they simply screwed up. At one of the newspapers I used to run, we frequently got letters from a very elderly former school teacher who would send us corrections of all the typos she found in our classifieds. I've also seen editing notes end up running in the paper. Lets not overlook the famous "Dewey Wins" and "Perot Wins" headlines! One of my favorite bloopers of all time was at one of my papers. It was a Headline that said: "POPULAR LOCAL COUPLE ASSUMES MISSIONARY POSITION" Yeah, we got a few letters on that one!- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No, links were posted yesterday. The only mention of party in the Chicago paper was the headline which read "GOP demands Spitzer resign" and the ABC news identified a "Republican" legislator who commented on the issue.. I really can't continue with you with your deflections and name calling, I don't really expect a coherant answer here either.. I am going outside to play with the gardens.. |
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