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_____ -------Original Message------- Subject: FLORIDA TEACHER SPEAKS OUT Letter by a Florida teacher................ A teacher speaks This is a subject close to my heart. Do you know that we have adult students at the school where I teach who are not US citizens and who get the PELL grant, which is a federal grant (no pay back required) plus other federal grants to go to school? One student from the Dominican Republic told me that she didn't want me to find a job for her after she finished my program, because she was getting housing from our housing department and she was getting PELL grant which paid for her total tuition and books, plus money left over. She was looking into WAIT which gives students a CREDIT CARD for gas to come to school, and into CARIBE which is a special program (check it out - I did) for immigrants and it pays for child care and all sorts of needs while they go to school or training. The one student I just mentioned told me she was not going to be a US Citizen because she plans to return to the Dominican Republic someday and that she 'loves HER country.' I asked her if she felt guilty taking what the US is giving her and then not even bothering to become a citizen and she told me that it doesn't bother her, because that is what the money is there for! I asked the CARIBE administration about their program and if you ARE a US Citizen, you don't qualify for their program. And all the while, I am working a full day, my son-in-law works more than 60 hours a week, and everyone in my family works and pays for our education. Something is wrong here. I am sorry but after hearing they want to sing the National Anthem in Spanish - enough is enough. Nowhere did they sing it in Italian, Polish, Irish (Celtic), German or any other language because of immigration. It was written by Francis Scott Key and should be sung word for word the way it was written. The news broadcasts even gave the translation -- not even close.Sorry if this offends anyone but this is MY COUNTRY IF IT IS YOUR COUNTRY SPEAK UP -- please pass this along. I am not against immigration -- just come through like everyone else. Get a sponsor; have a place to lay your head; have a job; pay your taxes, live by the rules AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other immigrants have in the past -- and GOD BLESS AMERICA! PART OF THE PROBLEM Think about this: If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone -- YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM! |
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Cut and paste from EMAIL _____ -------Original Message------- Subject: FLORIDA TEACHER SPEAKS OUT Letter by a Florida teacher................ A teacher speaks This is a subject close to my heart. Do you know that we have adult students at the school where I teach who are not US citizens and who get the PELL grant, which is a federal grant (no pay back required) plus other federal grants to go to school? One student from the Dominican Republic told me that she didn't want me to find a job for her after she finished my program, because she was getting housing from our housing department and she was getting PELL grant which paid for her total tuition and books, plus money left over. She was looking into WAIT which gives students a CREDIT CARD for gas to come to school, and into CARIBE which is a special program (check it out - I did) for immigrants and it pays for child care and all sorts of needs while they go to school or training. The one student I just mentioned told me she was not going to be a US Citizen because she plans to return to the Dominican Republic someday and that she 'loves HER country.' I asked her if she felt guilty taking what the US is giving her and then not even bothering to become a citizen and she told me that it doesn't bother her, because that is what the money is there for! I asked the CARIBE administration about their program and if you ARE a US Citizen, you don't qualify for their program. And all the while, I am working a full day, my son-in-law works more than 60 hours a week, and everyone in my family works and pays for our education. Something is wrong here. I am sorry but after hearing they want to sing the National Anthem in Spanish - enough is enough. Nowhere did they sing it in Italian, Polish, Irish (Celtic), German or any other language because of immigration. It was written by Francis Scott Key and should be sung word for word the way it was written. The news broadcasts even gave the translation -- not even close.Sorry if this offends anyone but this is MY COUNTRY IF IT IS YOUR COUNTRY SPEAK UP -- please pass this along. I am not against immigration -- just come through like everyone else. Get a sponsor; have a place to lay your head; have a job; pay your taxes, live by the rules AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other immigrants have in the past -- and GOD BLESS AMERICA! PART OF THE PROBLEM Think about this: If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone -- YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM! You forgot to mention flag burning, lesbians, and of course the "right to life" that ends when you are born. |
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John H. wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:16:22 -0400, " wrote: Letter by a Florida teacher................ A teacher speaks This is a subject close to my heart. Do you know that we have adult students at the school where I teach who are not US citizens and who get the PELL grant, which is a federal grant (no pay back required) plus other federal grants to go to school? One student from the Dominican Republic told me that she didn't want me to find a job for her after she finished my program, because she was getting housing from our housing department and she was getting PELL grant which paid for her total tuition and books, plus money left over. She was looking into WAIT which gives students a CREDIT CARD for gas to come to school, and into CARIBE which is a special program (check it out - I did) for immigrants and it pays for child care and all sorts of needs while they go to school or training. The one student I just mentioned told me she was not going to be a US Citizen because she plans to return to the Dominican Republic someday and that she 'loves HER country.' I asked her if she felt guilty taking what the US is giving her and then not even bothering to become a citizen and she told me that it doesn't bother her, because that is what the money is there for! I asked the CARIBE administration about their program and if you ARE a US Citizen, you don't qualify for their program. And all the while, I am working a full day, my son-in-law works more than 60 hours a week, and everyone in my family works and pays for our education. Something is wrong here. I am sorry but after hearing they want to sing the National Anthem in Spanish - enough is enough. Nowhere did they sing it in Italian, Polish, Irish (Celtic), German or any other language because of immigration. It was written by Francis Scott Key and should be sung word for word the way it was written. The news broadcasts even gave the translation -- not even close.Sorry if this offends anyone but this is MY COUNTRY IF IT IS YOUR COUNTRY SPEAK UP -- please pass this along. I am not against immigration -- just come through like everyone else. Get a sponsor; have a place to lay your head; have a job; pay your taxes, live by the rules AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other immigrants have in the past -- and GOD BLESS AMERICA! PART OF THE PROBLEM Think about this: If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone -- YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM! As long as you keep building your base with illegals, you'll stay in power. Just ask any liberal. Why do you think they fight so hard against ID's to vote? Because we don't want a national ID system and national ID card like some of our opponents in World War II required. |
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Letter from Florida teacher
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:16:22 -0400, "
wrote: Letter by a Florida teacher................ A teacher speaks This is a subject close to my heart. Do you know that we have adult students at the school where I teach who are not US citizens and who get the PELL grant, which is a federal grant (no pay back required) plus other federal grants to go to school? One student from the Dominican Republic told me that she didn't want me to find a job for her after she finished my program, because she was getting housing from our housing department and she was getting PELL grant which paid for her total tuition and books, plus money left over. She was looking into WAIT which gives students a CREDIT CARD for gas to come to school, and into CARIBE which is a special program (check it out - I did) for immigrants and it pays for child care and all sorts of needs while they go to school or training. The one student I just mentioned told me she was not going to be a US Citizen because she plans to return to the Dominican Republic someday and that she 'loves HER country.' I asked her if she felt guilty taking what the US is giving her and then not even bothering to become a citizen and she told me that it doesn't bother her, because that is what the money is there for! I asked the CARIBE administration about their program and if you ARE a US Citizen, you don't qualify for their program. And all the while, I am working a full day, my son-in-law works more than 60 hours a week, and everyone in my family works and pays for our education. Something is wrong here. I am sorry but after hearing they want to sing the National Anthem in Spanish - enough is enough. Nowhere did they sing it in Italian, Polish, Irish (Celtic), German or any other language because of immigration. It was written by Francis Scott Key and should be sung word for word the way it was written. The news broadcasts even gave the translation -- not even close.Sorry if this offends anyone but this is MY COUNTRY IF IT IS YOUR COUNTRY SPEAK UP -- please pass this along. I am not against immigration -- just come through like everyone else. Get a sponsor; have a place to lay your head; have a job; pay your taxes, live by the rules AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other immigrants have in the past -- and GOD BLESS AMERICA! PART OF THE PROBLEM Think about this: If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone -- YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM! As long as you keep building your base with illegals, you'll stay in power. Just ask any liberal. Why do you think they fight so hard against ID's to vote? -- John |
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HK wrote:
John H. wrote: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:16:22 -0400, " wrote: Letter by a Florida teacher................ A teacher speaks This is a subject close to my heart. Do you know that we have adult students at the school where I teach who are not US citizens and who get the PELL grant, which is a federal grant (no pay back required) plus other federal grants to go to school? One student from the Dominican Republic told me that she didn't want me to find a job for her after she finished my program, because she was getting housing from our housing department and she was getting PELL grant which paid for her total tuition and books, plus money left over. She was looking into WAIT which gives students a CREDIT CARD for gas to come to school, and into CARIBE which is a special program (check it out - I did) for immigrants and it pays for child care and all sorts of needs while they go to school or training. The one student I just mentioned told me she was not going to be a US Citizen because she plans to return to the Dominican Republic someday and that she 'loves HER country.' I asked her if she felt guilty taking what the US is giving her and then not even bothering to become a citizen and she told me that it doesn't bother her, because that is what the money is there for! I asked the CARIBE administration about their program and if you ARE a US Citizen, you don't qualify for their program. And all the while, I am working a full day, my son-in-law works more than 60 hours a week, and everyone in my family works and pays for our education. Something is wrong here. I am sorry but after hearing they want to sing the National Anthem in Spanish - enough is enough. Nowhere did they sing it in Italian, Polish, Irish (Celtic), German or any other language because of immigration. It was written by Francis Scott Key and should be sung word for word the way it was written. The news broadcasts even gave the translation -- not even close.Sorry if this offends anyone but this is MY COUNTRY IF IT IS YOUR COUNTRY SPEAK UP -- please pass this along. I am not against immigration -- just come through like everyone else. Get a sponsor; have a place to lay your head; have a job; pay your taxes, live by the rules AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other immigrants have in the past -- and GOD BLESS AMERICA! PART OF THE PROBLEM Think about this: If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone -- YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM! As long as you keep building your base with illegals, you'll stay in power. Just ask any liberal. Why do you think they fight so hard against ID's to vote? Because we don't want a national ID system and national ID card like some of our opponents in World War II required. Good fences make good neighbors. Our lack of immigration controls lets other countries dump their undesirables on us. |
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BAR wrote:
HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:16:22 -0400, " wrote: Letter by a Florida teacher................ A teacher speaks This is a subject close to my heart. Do you know that we have adult students at the school where I teach who are not US citizens and who get the PELL grant, which is a federal grant (no pay back required) plus other federal grants to go to school? One student from the Dominican Republic told me that she didn't want me to find a job for her after she finished my program, because she was getting housing from our housing department and she was getting PELL grant which paid for her total tuition and books, plus money left over. She was looking into WAIT which gives students a CREDIT CARD for gas to come to school, and into CARIBE which is a special program (check it out - I did) for immigrants and it pays for child care and all sorts of needs while they go to school or training. The one student I just mentioned told me she was not going to be a US Citizen because she plans to return to the Dominican Republic someday and that she 'loves HER country.' I asked her if she felt guilty taking what the US is giving her and then not even bothering to become a citizen and she told me that it doesn't bother her, because that is what the money is there for! I asked the CARIBE administration about their program and if you ARE a US Citizen, you don't qualify for their program. And all the while, I am working a full day, my son-in-law works more than 60 hours a week, and everyone in my family works and pays for our education. Something is wrong here. I am sorry but after hearing they want to sing the National Anthem in Spanish - enough is enough. Nowhere did they sing it in Italian, Polish, Irish (Celtic), German or any other language because of immigration. It was written by Francis Scott Key and should be sung word for word the way it was written. The news broadcasts even gave the translation -- not even close.Sorry if this offends anyone but this is MY COUNTRY IF IT IS YOUR COUNTRY SPEAK UP -- please pass this along. I am not against immigration -- just come through like everyone else. Get a sponsor; have a place to lay your head; have a job; pay your taxes, live by the rules AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other immigrants have in the past -- and GOD BLESS AMERICA! PART OF THE PROBLEM Think about this: If you don't want to forward this for fear of offending someone -- YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM! As long as you keep building your base with illegals, you'll stay in power. Just ask any liberal. Why do you think they fight so hard against ID's to vote? Because we don't want a national ID system and national ID card like some of our opponents in World War II required. Good fences make good neighbors. Our lack of immigration controls lets other countries dump their undesirables on us. Your boy Bush did nothing to control immigration, and won't. His corporate sponsors won't let him. |
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On Mar 12, 8:59*pm, hk wrote:
BAR wrote: HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:16:22 -0400, " wrote: Letter by a Florida teacher................ A teacher speaks *This is a subject close to my heart. Do you know that we have adult *students at the school where I teach who are not US citizens and who *get the PELL grant, which is a federal grant (no pay back required) *plus other federal grants *to go to school? *One student from the Dominican Republic told me that she didn't want *me to find a job for her after she finished my program, because she *was getting *housing from our housing department and she was getting PELL grant which paid for her total tuition and books, plus money left over. *She was looking into WAIT which gives students a CREDIT CARD for gas *to come *to school, and into CARIBE which is a special program (check it out - I did) for immigrants and it pays for child care and all *sorts of needs while they go to school or training. The one student I *just mentioned told me she was not going to be a US Citizen because *she plans to return to the * Dominican Republic someday and that she 'loves HER country.' *I asked her if she felt guilty taking what the US * is giving her and then not even bothering to become a citizen and she told me that it *doesn't bother her, because that is what the money is there for! *I asked the CARIBE administration about their program and if you ARE *a US Citizen, you don't qualify for their program. And all the while, *I am working a full day, my son-in-law works more than 60 hours a *week, and everyone in my family works and pays for our education.. *Something is wrong here. * I am sorry but after hearing they want to sing the National Anthem in Spanish - enough is enough. *Nowhere did they sing it in Italian, Polish, Irish (Celtic), German *or any other language because of immigration. * It was written by *Francis Scott Key and should be sung word for word the way it was *written. The news broadcasts even gave the translation -- not even *close.Sorry if this offends anyone but this is MY COUNTRY *IF IT IS YOUR COUNTRY SPEAK UP -- please pass this along. *I am not against immigration -- just come through like everyone else. *Get a sponsor; have a place to lay your head; have a job; pay your *taxes, live by the rules AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE as all other *immigrants have in the past -- *and GOD BLESS AMERICA! *PART OF THE PROBLEM *Think about this: If you don't want to forward this for fear of *offending someone -- YOU'RE PART OF THE PROBLEM! As long as you keep building your base with illegals, you'll stay in power. Just ask any liberal. Why do you think they fight so hard against ID's to vote? Because we don't want a national ID system and national ID card like some of our opponents in World War II required. Good fences make good neighbors. Our lack of immigration controls lets other countries dump their undesirables on us. Your boy Bush did nothing to control immigration, and won't. His corporate sponsors won't let him.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - harry, no pres, had done anything about immigration control all the way back to FDR and before. really now, isn't blaming Bush about immigration sort of a lame arguement? |
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On Mar 13, 1:02*am, Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mar 12, 8:59*pm, hk wrote: BAR wrote: Our lack of immigration controls lets other countries dump their undesirables on us. Your boy Bush did nothing to control immigration, and won't. His corporate sponsors won't let him.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - harry, no pres, had done anything about immigration control all the way back to FDR and before. Nope. *INS raids and deportations were common in Chicago factories in the 60's and 70's. *If a cop figured you were illegal, he held you for the feds and they put you on a plane out of here. Besides that, you waited in line to legally emigrate, had to have a sponsor who had an address and some money in the bank. I know, because I sponsored my wife's family, who came from Poland. She came much earlier, being sponsored by an uncle who himself got here through an arduous process after working for American forces in Germany right after WWII. It took us years to get the wife's family here. * They were industrious and did quite well, never on the dole or street corner selling drugs. Don't know exactly when INS fell apart, but Reagan granted amnesty to some millions of illegals, and it's been downhill from there. The info is probably on the net, but I ain't going. really now, isn't blaming Bush about immigration sort of a lame arguement? Nope. Unless he hasn't been Commander-In-Chief for the last seven years and done virtually nothing but propose amnesty. Lou Dobbs and some smart Republicans kicked his ass for that. Clinton was just as bad, but that's no excuse for Bush. How's the illegal situation down there, Tim? Can you do gigs at any cantinas, if you wear a poncho? If you get a chance, watch a movie called Delta Farce. Some hilarious scenes. --Vic vic, don't get me wrong, I'm not sayig Bush shouldn't have done something by now, but was like you said about Clinton. I'm not singling bubba out either. That's what I was refering back to FDR and further back. It seems (to me) that no POTUS has really taken immigration reform to heart. Haven't seen Delta Force. I'll have to look for it. |
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On Mar 13, 1:24*am, Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:10:31 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Mar 13, 1:02*am, Vic Smith wrote: If you get a chance, watch a movie called Delta Farce. Some hilarious scenes. Haven't seen Delta Force. I'll have to look for it. No, Delta Farce. *Delta Force is a Chuck Norris movie. Chuck is never funny unless he 's teamed with Huckabee and Huckabee does the talking. Not saying Delta Farce will be your favorite movie, but you'll get a kick out it. --Vic vic, you should know that I'm probablyt he king of typos around ehre. i kenw what you were saying. jsut fingers didn't go the right direction;. as usual |
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Mar 12, 8:59*pm, hk wrote: BAR wrote: Our lack of immigration controls lets other countries dump their undesirables on us. Your boy Bush did nothing to control immigration, and won't. His corporate sponsors won't let him.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - harry, no pres, had done anything about immigration control all the way back to FDR and before. Nope. INS raids and deportations were common in Chicago factories in the 60's and 70's. If a cop figured you were illegal, he held you for the feds and they put you on a plane out of here. Besides that, you waited in line to legally emigrate, had to have a sponsor who had an address and some money in the bank. I know, because I sponsored my wife's family, who came from Poland. She came much earlier, being sponsored by an uncle who himself got here through an arduous process after working for American forces in Germany right after WWII. It took us years to get the wife's family here. They were industrious and did quite well, never on the dole or street corner selling drugs. Don't know exactly when INS fell apart, but Reagan granted amnesty to some millions of illegals, and it's been downhill from there. The info is probably on the net, but I ain't going. really now, isn't blaming Bush about immigration sort of a lame arguement? Nope. Unless he hasn't been Commander-In-Chief for the last seven years and done virtually nothing but propose amnesty. Lou Dobbs and some smart Republicans kicked his ass for that. Clinton was just as bad, but that's no excuse for Bush. How's the illegal situation down there, Tim? Can you do gigs at any cantinas, if you wear a poncho? If you get a chance, watch a movie called Delta Farce. Some hilarious scenes. --Vic |
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:10:31 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Mar 13, 1:02*am, Vic Smith wrote: If you get a chance, watch a movie called Delta Farce. Some hilarious scenes. Haven't seen Delta Force. I'll have to look for it. No, Delta Farce. Delta Force is a Chuck Norris movie. Chuck is never funny unless he 's teamed with Huckabee and Huckabee does the talking. Not saying Delta Farce will be your favorite movie, but you'll get a kick out it. --Vic |
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Tim wrote:
On Mar 12, 8:59 pm, hk wrote: harry, no pres, had done anything about immigration control all the way back to FDR and before. really now, isn't blaming Bush about immigration sort of a lame arguement? Tim, that's not true. The first big illegal immigrant amnesty I recall was perpetrated by Ronnie Raygun. As for blaming Bush, well, he *has* ben *the man* for the past seven+ years, and he's done nothing about it, along with the many other sores tasking this country about which he has done nothing. |
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HK wrote:
Tim wrote: On Mar 12, 8:59 pm, hk wrote: harry, no pres, had done anything about immigration control all the way back to FDR and before. really now, isn't blaming Bush about immigration sort of a lame arguement? Tim, that's not true. The first big illegal immigrant amnesty I recall was perpetrated by Ronnie Raygun. As for blaming Bush, well, he *has* ben *the man* for the past seven+ years, and he's done nothing about it, along with the many other sores tasking this country about which he has done nothing. He was just following the example set by his immediate predecessor, Clinton. Clinton the accomplish nothing president. |
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On Mar 13, 7:18*am, BAR wrote:
HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Mar 12, 8:59 pm, hk wrote: harry, no pres, had done anything about immigration control all the way back to FDR and before. really now, isn't blaming Bush about immigration sort of a lame arguement? Tim, that's not true. The first big illegal immigrant amnesty I recall was perpetrated by Ronnie Raygun. As for blaming Bush, well, he *has* ben *the man* for the past seven+ years, and he's done nothing about it, along with the many other sores tasking this country about which he has done nothing. He was just following the example set by his immediate predecessor, Clinton. Clinton the accomplish nothing president.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh sure he did, Billary sold our missle and nuke tech to the Chinese military for 3million in late illegal campaign contributions which put him over the top the second time around.. Of course after saturating the west coast with the money and winning the election, they "noticed" the problem and returned the money;) OOOOPs.. |
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On Mar 13, 8:06*am, HK wrote:
wrote: On Mar 13, 7:18 am, BAR wrote: HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Mar 12, 8:59 pm, hk wrote: harry, no pres, had done anything about immigration control all the way back to FDR and before. really now, isn't blaming Bush about immigration sort of a lame arguement? Tim, that's not true. The first big illegal immigrant amnesty I recall was perpetrated by Ronnie Raygun. As for blaming Bush, well, he *has* ben *the man* for the past seven+ years, and he's done nothing about it, along with the many other sores tasking this country about which he has done nothing. He was just following the example set by his immediate predecessor, Clinton. Clinton the accomplish nothing president.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh sure he did, Billary sold our missle and nuke tech to the Chinese military for 3million in late illegal campaign contributions which put him over the top the second time around.. Of course after saturating the west coast with the money and winning the election, they "noticed" the problem and returned the money;) OOOOPs.. Back to the real world: Clinton one the second time around because he was popular and because his opponent was a lousy presidential candidate and ran a half-assed campaign.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And they flooded the commercial market with 3 million dollars from the Chinese Military, and that is a known fact.. period. |
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On Mar 13, 8:13*am, HK wrote:
wrote: On Mar 13, 8:06 am, HK wrote: wrote: On Mar 13, 7:18 am, BAR wrote: HK wrote: Tim wrote: On Mar 12, 8:59 pm, hk wrote: harry, no pres, had done anything about immigration control all the way back to FDR and before. really now, isn't blaming Bush about immigration sort of a lame arguement? Tim, that's not true. The first big illegal immigrant amnesty I recall was perpetrated by Ronnie Raygun. As for blaming Bush, well, he *has* ben *the man* for the past seven+ years, and he's done nothing about it, along with the many other sores tasking this country about which he has done nothing. He was just following the example set by his immediate predecessor, Clinton. Clinton the accomplish nothing president.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh sure he did, Billary sold our missle and nuke tech to the Chinese military for 3million in late illegal campaign contributions which put him over the top the second time around.. Of course after saturating the west coast with the money and winning the election, they "noticed" the problem and returned the money;) OOOOPs.. Back to the real world: Clinton one the second time around because he was popular and because his opponent was a lousy presidential candidate and ran a half-assed campaign.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And they flooded the commercial market with 3 million dollars from the Chinese Military, and that is a known fact.. period. "A known fact." *snerk- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yes, it is a known fact. That is why Billary apologized and returned the money.. I am finished, I know you won't accept the facts. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... It doesn't matter. There is nothing Clinton did that begins to compare with the horrors perpetrated by Dubya. Some would argue that is because Clinton didn't do much, period. US interests were attacked many times by terrorists during the Clinton years with very little action or response on his part. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... It doesn't matter. There is nothing Clinton did that begins to compare with the horrors perpetrated by Dubya. Some would argue that is because Clinton didn't do much, period. US interests were attacked many times by terrorists during the Clinton years with very little action or response on his part. Eisboch How many U.S. civilians died as a result of terrorist attacks on U.S. territory during Clinton's administrations? How many military personnel were killed or horribly injured during Clinton's administrations because of his ignorance, arrogance, or intellectual laziness? |
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HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... It doesn't matter. There is nothing Clinton did that begins to compare with the horrors perpetrated by Dubya. Some would argue that is because Clinton didn't do much, period. US interests were attacked many times by terrorists during the Clinton years with very little action or response on his part. Eisboch How many U.S. civilians died as a result of terrorist attacks on U.S. territory during Clinton's administrations? How many military personnel were killed or horribly injured during Clinton's administrations because of his ignorance, arrogance, or intellectual laziness? You can't be so naive as to believe what comes out of your addled brain? You liberals, excuse me progressives, are always harping about how you have to look beyond the shores of the US for this or that but, when it may suite your arguments you pull everything back within our North American borders. |
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BAR wrote:
HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... It doesn't matter. There is nothing Clinton did that begins to compare with the horrors perpetrated by Dubya. Some would argue that is because Clinton didn't do much, period. US interests were attacked many times by terrorists during the Clinton years with very little action or response on his part. Eisboch How many U.S. civilians died as a result of terrorist attacks on U.S. territory during Clinton's administrations? How many military personnel were killed or horribly injured during Clinton's administrations because of his ignorance, arrogance, or intellectual laziness? You can't be so naive as to believe what comes out of your addled brain? You liberals, excuse me progressives, are always harping about how you have to look beyond the shores of the US for this or that but, when it may suite your arguments you pull everything back within our North American borders. Yes, well, the critical aspect of Bush's presidency was that he was asleep or on vacation for most of the time before 9-11, ignored advice, and then proceeded after 9-11 to go after Iraq, the *wrong* country. Bush is ignorant, arrogant, and intellectually lazy. Hey...those are pretty much right-wing traits... :) |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... It doesn't matter. There is nothing Clinton did that begins to compare with the horrors perpetrated by Dubya. Some would argue that is because Clinton didn't do much, period. US interests were attacked many times by terrorists during the Clinton years with very little action or response on his part. Eisboch How many U.S. civilians died as a result of terrorist attacks on U.S. territory during Clinton's administrations? How many military personnel were killed or horribly injured during Clinton's administrations because of his ignorance, arrogance, or intellectual laziness? How many of those deaths can be also linked back to Clinton's lack of action during the 1990's? I am not arguing that Clinton only is responsible, but policy is a continuum of events, actions or lack of. Here's one of many history lessons available. All are interesting, but take special note of the section regarding "Counterterrorism and Osama bin Laden" and Clinton's lack of interest in Intelligence gathering, including: "According to "State of War" written by Pulitzer Prize Wining Author James Risen, Upon taking power in 1993 the Clinton administration "began slashing the intelligence budget in search of a Peace dividend, and Bill Clinton showed almost no interest in intelligence matters" Intellectually lazy? No, I don't think that of Clinton, but I *do* agree with ignorance and arrogance. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign...Administration Eisboch One of many "history" lessons. |
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On Mar 13, 9:00*am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote: HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... It doesn't matter. There is nothing Clinton did that begins to compare with the horrors perpetrated by Dubya. Some would argue that is because Clinton didn't do much, period. US interests were attacked many times by terrorists during the Clinton years with very little action or response on his part. Eisboch How many U.S. civilians died as a result of terrorist attacks on U.S. territory during Clinton's administrations? How many military personnel were killed or horribly injured during Clinton's administrations because of his ignorance, arrogance, or intellectual laziness? You can't be so naive as to believe what comes out of your addled brain? *You liberals, excuse me progressives, are always harping about how you have to look beyond the shores of the US for this or that but, when it may suite your arguments you pull everything back within our North American borders. Yes, well, the critical aspect of Bush's presidency was that he was asleep or on vacation for most of the time before 9-11, ignored advice, and then proceeded after 9-11 to go after Iraq, the *wrong* country. Bush is ignorant, arrogant, and intellectually lazy. Hey...those are pretty much right-wing traits... *:)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - All of that is bull**** until someone knows what Sandy Burglar was hiding, and why Jamie Garelic was on the 911 commission. Period.. And btw, who was pres when they blew my friend Steven Tingley and a couple of hundred other good marines out of their beds in Beruit? |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Yes, well, the critical aspect of Bush's presidency was that he was asleep or on vacation for most of the time before 9-11, ignored advice, You just described B. Clinton as well, and very accurately. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Yes, well, the critical aspect of Bush's presidency was that he was asleep or on vacation for most of the time before 9-11, ignored advice, You just described B. Clinton as well, and very accurately. Eisboch Really? Clinton was and is a policy wonk and a voracious reader and digester of all manner of policy papers and positions. Bush has his thoughts handed to him on a couple of 3x5 cards. Clinton has his faults, but when he was POTUS, being asleep at the wheel was not one of them. Bush is the laughing stock of the world. He transcends incompetent and gives it an entirely new meaning. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Yes, well, the critical aspect of Bush's presidency was that he was asleep or on vacation for most of the time before 9-11, ignored advice, You just described B. Clinton as well, and very accurately. Eisboch Really? Clinton was and is a policy wonk and a voracious reader and digester of all manner of policy papers and positions. Bush has his thoughts handed to him on a couple of 3x5 cards. Clinton has his faults, but when he was POTUS, being asleep at the wheel was not one of them. He may not have been asleep at the wheel, but he had his nose too buried in the roadmap to get anywhere. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Yes, well, the critical aspect of Bush's presidency was that he was asleep or on vacation for most of the time before 9-11, ignored advice, You just described B. Clinton as well, and very accurately. Eisboch Really? Clinton was and is a policy wonk and a voracious reader and digester of all manner of policy papers and positions. Bush has his thoughts handed to him on a couple of 3x5 cards. Clinton has his faults, but when he was POTUS, being asleep at the wheel was not one of them. He may not have been asleep at the wheel, but he had his nose too buried in the roadmap to get anywhere. Eisboch I suspect history will consider Clinton a better than decent POTUS and Bush a total failure. |
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"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... I suspect history will consider Clinton a better than decent POTUS and Bush a total failure. Probably. It's hard to be critical of someone who doesn't do anything. Eisboch |
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HK wrote:
BAR wrote: HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... It doesn't matter. There is nothing Clinton did that begins to compare with the horrors perpetrated by Dubya. Some would argue that is because Clinton didn't do much, period. US interests were attacked many times by terrorists during the Clinton years with very little action or response on his part. Eisboch How many U.S. civilians died as a result of terrorist attacks on U.S. territory during Clinton's administrations? How many military personnel were killed or horribly injured during Clinton's administrations because of his ignorance, arrogance, or intellectual laziness? You can't be so naive as to believe what comes out of your addled brain? You liberals, excuse me progressives, are always harping about how you have to look beyond the shores of the US for this or that but, when it may suite your arguments you pull everything back within our North American borders. Yes, well, the critical aspect of Bush's presidency was that he was asleep or on vacation for most of the time before 9-11, ignored advice, and then proceeded after 9-11 to go after Iraq, the *wrong* country. Bush is ignorant, arrogant, and intellectually lazy. Hey...those are pretty much right-wing traits... :) Ignorant? He has two Ivy League degrees where you have non. Arrogant? He views on many subjects are different than yours and you see this as arrogance where more level headed people view this as just differences of opinion. Intellectually Lazy? See above. |
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BAR wrote:
HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... It doesn't matter. There is nothing Clinton did that begins to compare with the horrors perpetrated by Dubya. Some would argue that is because Clinton didn't do much, period. US interests were attacked many times by terrorists during the Clinton years with very little action or response on his part. Eisboch How many U.S. civilians died as a result of terrorist attacks on U.S. territory during Clinton's administrations? How many military personnel were killed or horribly injured during Clinton's administrations because of his ignorance, arrogance, or intellectual laziness? You can't be so naive as to believe what comes out of your addled brain? You liberals, excuse me progressives, are always harping about how you have to look beyond the shores of the US for this or that but, when it may suite your arguments you pull everything back within our North American borders. Yes, well, the critical aspect of Bush's presidency was that he was asleep or on vacation for most of the time before 9-11, ignored advice, and then proceeded after 9-11 to go after Iraq, the *wrong* country. Bush is ignorant, arrogant, and intellectually lazy. Hey...those are pretty much right-wing traits... :) Ignorant? He has two Ivy League degrees where you have non. Bush was a "legacy" at Yale and his admission was bought at Harvard Biziness. He is as ignorant as one can be. |
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On Mar 13, 10:55*am, HK wrote:
BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... It doesn't matter. There is nothing Clinton did that begins to compare with the horrors perpetrated by Dubya. Some would argue that is because Clinton didn't do much, period. US interests were attacked many times by terrorists during the Clinton years with very little action or response on his part. Eisboch How many U.S. civilians died as a result of terrorist attacks on U.S. territory during Clinton's administrations? How many military personnel were killed or horribly injured during Clinton's administrations because of his ignorance, arrogance, or intellectual laziness? You can't be so naive as to believe what comes out of your addled brain? *You liberals, excuse me progressives, are always harping about how you have to look beyond the shores of the US for this or that but, when it may suite your arguments you pull everything back within our North American borders. Yes, well, the critical aspect of Bush's presidency was that he was asleep or on vacation for most of the time before 9-11, ignored advice, and then proceeded after 9-11 to go after Iraq, the *wrong* country. Bush is ignorant, arrogant, and intellectually lazy. Hey...those are pretty much right-wing traits... *:) Ignorant? He has two Ivy League degrees where you have non. Bush was a "legacy" at Yale and his admission was bought at Harvard Biziness. He is as ignorant as one can be.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - But at least he has a REAL Yale degree as opposed to having the need to lie about one to boost one's ego. |
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On Mar 13, 11:21*am, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 10:55 am, HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... It doesn't matter. There is nothing Clinton did that begins to compare with the horrors perpetrated by Dubya. Some would argue that is because Clinton didn't do much, period. US interests were attacked many times by terrorists during the Clinton years with very little action or response on his part. Eisboch How many U.S. civilians died as a result of terrorist attacks on U.S. territory during Clinton's administrations? How many military personnel were killed or horribly injured during Clinton's administrations because of his ignorance, arrogance, or intellectual laziness? You can't be so naive as to believe what comes out of your addled brain? You liberals, excuse me progressives, are always harping about how you have to look beyond the shores of the US for this or that but, when it may suite your arguments you pull everything back within our North American borders. Yes, well, the critical aspect of Bush's presidency was that he was asleep or on vacation for most of the time before 9-11, ignored advice, and then proceeded after 9-11 to go after Iraq, the *wrong* country. Bush is ignorant, arrogant, and intellectually lazy. Hey...those are pretty much right-wing traits... :) Ignorant? He has two Ivy League degrees where you have non. Bush was a "legacy" at Yale and his admission was bought at Harvard Biziness. He is as ignorant as one can be.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - But at least he has a REAL Yale degree as opposed to having the need to lie about one to boost one's ego. ================ Tell us again about your engineering degree Loogie.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What would you like to know about it? |
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On Mar 13, 11:34*am, "JimH" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 11:21 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 10:55 am, HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... It doesn't matter. There is nothing Clinton did that begins to compare with the horrors perpetrated by Dubya. Some would argue that is because Clinton didn't do much, period. US interests were attacked many times by terrorists during the Clinton years with very little action or response on his part. Eisboch How many U.S. civilians died as a result of terrorist attacks on U.S. territory during Clinton's administrations? How many military personnel were killed or horribly injured during Clinton's administrations because of his ignorance, arrogance, or intellectual laziness? You can't be so naive as to believe what comes out of your addled brain? You liberals, excuse me progressives, are always harping about how you have to look beyond the shores of the US for this or that but, when it may suite your arguments you pull everything back within our North American borders. Yes, well, the critical aspect of Bush's presidency was that he was asleep or on vacation for most of the time before 9-11, ignored advice, and then proceeded after 9-11 to go after Iraq, the *wrong* country. Bush is ignorant, arrogant, and intellectually lazy. Hey...those are pretty much right-wing traits... :) Ignorant? He has two Ivy League degrees where you have non. Bush was a "legacy" at Yale and his admission was bought at Harvard Biziness. He is as ignorant as one can be.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - But at least he has a REAL Yale degree as opposed to having the need to lie about one to boost one's ego. ================ Tell us again about your engineering degree Loogie.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What would you like to know about it? ============= College and type of degree. *Be careful this time and make sure that college actually offers the degree. *You got caught in a lie last time. *;-)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Okay, just as soon as I see proof of Harry's lobster boat, Yale degree, and father's trans Atlantic crossing and subsequent fireboat welcome in NYC. After all, this is about me calling Harry out on his lies. And no, I wasn't caught in a lie. A few fools that don't know any better, like you and Fritz, made it into a lie. Again, I have a bachelor's and undergrad degree and will show proof when the above is met, okay warp17? Besides, you've told everyone here that you know all about me, you even told people here that I got a dui in Gwinnett county because you heard it from an advertisement rag out there. |
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JimH wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 11:34 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 11:21 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 10:55 am, HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... It doesn't matter. There is nothing Clinton did that begins to compare with the horrors perpetrated by Dubya. Some would argue that is because Clinton didn't do much, period. US interests were attacked many times by terrorists during the Clinton years with very little action or response on his part. Eisboch How many U.S. civilians died as a result of terrorist attacks on U.S. territory during Clinton's administrations? How many military personnel were killed or horribly injured during Clinton's administrations because of his ignorance, arrogance, or intellectual laziness? You can't be so naive as to believe what comes out of your addled brain? You liberals, excuse me progressives, are always harping about how you have to look beyond the shores of the US for this or that but, when it may suite your arguments you pull everything back within our North American borders. Yes, well, the critical aspect of Bush's presidency was that he was asleep or on vacation for most of the time before 9-11, ignored advice, and then proceeded after 9-11 to go after Iraq, the *wrong* country. Bush is ignorant, arrogant, and intellectually lazy. Hey...those are pretty much right-wing traits... :) Ignorant? He has two Ivy League degrees where you have non. Bush was a "legacy" at Yale and his admission was bought at Harvard Biziness. He is as ignorant as one can be.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - But at least he has a REAL Yale degree as opposed to having the need to lie about one to boost one's ego. ================ Tell us again about your engineering degree Loogie.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What would you like to know about it? ============= College and type of degree. Be careful this time and make sure that college actually offers the degree. You got caught in a lie last time. ;-)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Okay, just as soon as I see proof of Harry's lobster boat, Yale degree, and father's trans Atlantic crossing and subsequent fireboat welcome in NYC. After all, this is about me calling Harry out on his lies. And no, I wasn't caught in a lie. A few fools that don't know any better, like you and Fritz, made it into a lie. Again, I have a bachelor's and undergrad degree and will show proof when the above is met, okay warp17? Besides, you've told everyone here that you know all about me, you even told people here that I got a dui in Gwinnett county because you heard it from an advertisement rag out there. =============== ROTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My guess is that our boy Loogy never finished high school. |
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