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Letter from Florida teacher
On Mar 13, 1:46*pm, wrote:
On Mar 13, 1:07*pm, HK wrote: JimHwrote: wrote in message .... On Mar 13, 11:34 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message .... On Mar 13, 11:21 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 10:55 am, HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message .. . It doesn't matter. There is nothing Clinton did that begins to compare with the horrors perpetrated by Dubya. Some would argue that is because Clinton didn't do much, period. US interests were attacked many times by terrorists during the Clinton years with very little action or response on his part. Eisboch How many U.S. civilians died as a result of terrorist attacks on U.S. territory during Clinton's administrations? How many military personnel were killed or horribly injured during Clinton's administrations because of his ignorance, arrogance, or intellectual laziness? You can't be so naive as to believe what comes out of your addled brain? You liberals, excuse me progressives, are always harping about how you have to look beyond the shores of the US for this or that but, when it may suite your arguments you pull everything back within our North American borders. Yes, well, the critical aspect of Bush's presidency was that he was asleep or on vacation for most of the time before 9-11, ignored advice, and then proceeded after 9-11 to go after Iraq, the *wrong* country. Bush is ignorant, arrogant, and intellectually lazy. Hey...those are pretty much right-wing traits... :) Ignorant? He has two Ivy League degrees where you have non. Bush was a "legacy" at Yale and his admission was bought at Harvard Biziness. He is as ignorant as one can be.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - But at least he has a REAL Yale degree as opposed to having the need to lie about one to boost one's ego. ================ Tell us again about your engineering degree Loogie.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - What would you like to know about it? ============= College and type of degree. Be careful this time and make sure that college actually offers the degree. You got caught in a lie last time. ;-)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Okay, just as soon as I see proof of Harry's lobster boat, Yale degree, and father's trans Atlantic crossing and subsequent fireboat welcome in NYC. After all, this is about me calling Harry out on his lies. And no, I wasn't caught in a lie. A few fools that don't know any better, like you and Fritz, made it into a lie. Again, I have a bachelor's and undergrad degree and will show proof when the above is met, okay warp17? Besides, you've told everyone here that you know all about me, you even told people here that I got a dui in Gwinnett county because you heard it from an advertisement rag out there. =============== ROTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My guess is that our boy Loogy never finished high school.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry, see above, we can settle this VERY easily.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I hear.....crickets........ |
Letter from Florida teacher
On Mar 13, 1:45*pm, wrote:
On Mar 13, 12:43*pm, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 11:34 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message .... On Mar 13, 11:21 am, "JimH" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 10:55 am, HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: BAR wrote: HK wrote: Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... It doesn't matter. There is nothing Clinton did that begins to compare with the horrors perpetrated by Dubya. Some would argue that is because Clinton didn't do much, period. US interests were attacked many times by terrorists during the Clinton years with very little action or response on his part. |
Letter from Florida teacher
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Letter from Florida teacher
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Letter from Florida teacher
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 08:18:59 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:23:59 -0400, " wrote: Negotiation. That's the ticket. Right Harry? Better than running in circles for the next, what, 1000 years, blowing our national treasure, human and otherwise, on a stupid, useless war that only pays off for corporate interests. Harry, are you seriously suggesting that we "negotiate" a solution with the leaders of Islamic fundamentalism, including bin Laden? Good grief. Eisboch I believe you'll get more of the liberal philosophy - tell you what 'won't' work, but provide no alternatives. They are afraid to get laughed at. -- John H |
Letter from Florida teacher
"HK" wrote in message ... wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Win *yet*? You don't really think we are going to put down the Islamists, do you. The ones that have sworn to Allah to kill you, me, our wives, kids, families, neighborhoods? Those? You betcha. Eisboch Yeah, how? They're in 50 different countries. It is not going to happen via military action. Negotiation. That's the ticket. Right Harry? What's your plan, Florida Jim? Never ending military action, sacrificing the sons and daughters of other Americans? My plan is to test Harry's notion that you can negotiate with terrorists. Any volunteers? Harry!------------- Harry! You there Harry? Damn. He ran away again. |
Letter from Florida teacher
"John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:23:59 -0400, " wrote: "HK" wrote in message m... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Win *yet*? You don't really think we are going to put down the Islamists, do you. The ones that have sworn to Allah to kill you, me, our wives, kids, families, neighborhoods? Those? You betcha. Eisboch Yeah, how? They're in 50 different countries. It is not going to happen via military action. Negotiation. That's the ticket. Right Harry? Are you running for 'liberal'? -- John H You better tell me you forgot the smiley. |
Letter from Florida teacher
"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:23:59 -0400, " wrote: Negotiation. That's the ticket. Right Harry? Better than running in circles for the next, what, 1000 years, blowing our national treasure, human and otherwise, on a stupid, useless war that only pays off for corporate interests. Harry, are you seriously suggesting that we "negotiate" a solution with the leaders of Islamic fundamentalism, including bin Laden? Good grief. Eisboch Of course not, but I am suggesting that waging "military war" for the next 1000 years is equally idiotic. The war against religious fundamentalism is not going to be won via militarism. Typical for you. Any ACTION will meet with your disapproval. So your solution is to sit on the sidelines and bitch about everything. Stand up for something. Anything. Be a man for once in your miserable life. |
Letter from Florida teacher
On Mar 14, 8:34*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: Harry, are you seriously suggesting that we "negotiate" a solution with the leaders of Islamic fundamentalism, including bin Laden? Good grief. Eisboch Of course not, but I am suggesting that waging "military war" for the next 1000 years is equally idiotic. The war against religious fundamentalism is not going to be won via militarism. Well, I agree that the war may not be won, but the physical attacks on this country may be controlled. Eisboch And any plan to spread the wealth, health, and prosperity can not happen until there are somewhat stable and safe environments for us to deliver to. That means leaders in those countries who want to let the folks prosper, sometimes that takes a war, sometimes not. |
Letter from Florida teacher
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"HK" wrote in message ... wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Win *yet*? You don't really think we are going to put down the Islamists, do you. The ones that have sworn to Allah to kill you, me, our wives, kids, families, neighborhoods? Those? You betcha. Eisboch Yeah, how? They're in 50 different countries. It is not going to happen via military action. Negotiation. That's the ticket. Right Harry? What's your plan, Florida Jim? Never ending military action, sacrificing the sons and daughters of other Americans? My plan is to test Harry's notion that you can negotiate with terrorists. Any volunteers? Harry!------------- Harry! You there Harry? Damn. He ran away again. Harry, Nick Berg's Iraqi visa is being used anymore, I'm sure they will let you have it. |
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BAR wrote:
wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: "HK" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Win *yet*? You don't really think we are going to put down the Islamists, do you. The ones that have sworn to Allah to kill you, me, our wives, kids, families, neighborhoods? Those? You betcha. Eisboch Yeah, how? They're in 50 different countries. It is not going to happen via military action. Negotiation. That's the ticket. Right Harry? What's your plan, Florida Jim? Never ending military action, sacrificing the sons and daughters of other Americans? My plan is to test Harry's notion that you can negotiate with terrorists. Any volunteers? Harry!------------- Harry! You there Harry? Damn. He ran away again. Harry, Nick Berg's Iraqi visa is being used anymore, I'm sure they will let you have it. I used to negotiate teachers' union contracts with school boards. Some of the school boards hired terrorists to handle their side of the negotiations. |
Letter from Florida teacher
"HK" wrote in message ... I used to negotiate teachers' union contracts with school boards. Some of the school boards hired terrorists to handle their side of the negotiations. Sorry. I couldn't help myself. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...22/ai_14995074 Eisboch :-) |
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On Mar 14, 6:44*pm, HK wrote:
BAR wrote: wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: "HK" wrote in message news:45OdneCHQ50nL0TanZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@comcast. com... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Win *yet*? You don't really think we are going to put down the Islamists, do you. The ones that have sworn to Allah to kill you, me, our wives, kids, families, neighborhoods? * Those? You betcha. Eisboch Yeah, how? They're in 50 different countries. It is not going to happen via military action. Negotiation. That's the ticket. Right Harry? What's your plan, Florida Jim? Never ending military action, sacrificing the sons and daughters of other Americans? My plan is to test Harry's notion that you can negotiate with terrorists. Any volunteers? Harry!------------- Harry! You there Harry? * * * Damn. He ran away again. Harry, Nick Berg's Iraqi visa is being used anymore, I'm sure they will let you have it. I used to negotiate teachers' union contracts with school boards. Some of the school boards hired terrorists to handle their side of the negotiations.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Fortunatly for the boards, they are smarter than the average union hack/thug/slug.. |
Letter from Florida teacher
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... I used to negotiate teachers' union contracts with school boards. Some of the school boards hired terrorists to handle their side of the negotiations. Sorry. I couldn't help myself. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...22/ai_14995074 Eisboch :-) Yeah, teachers should have remained grossly underpaid and subject to being fired by administrators on a whim. |
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Letter from Florida teacher
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:55:43 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... I used to negotiate teachers' union contracts with school boards. Some of the school boards hired terrorists to handle their side of the negotiations. Sorry. I couldn't help myself. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...22/ai_14995074 Eisboch :-) Good article. The unions here take credit for every good thing the school board does. But, as strikes are illegal, they really have little more than big mouths. -- John H |
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Letter from Florida teacher
HK wrote:
JimH wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... I used to negotiate teachers' union contracts with school boards. Some of the school boards hired terrorists to handle their side of the negotiations. Sorry. I couldn't help myself. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...22/ai_14995074 Eisboch :-) Yeah, teachers should have remained grossly underpaid and subject to being fired by administrators on a whim. Firing on a whim is a fairy tale. My wife (an ex teacher) has told me numerous horror stories about incompetent teachers keeping their jobs because of the union. The District tried to get rid of these teachers with no luck. Because you are not aware of teachers being fired on a whim doesn't mean it didn't or doesn't happen. There are labor laws outside of unions, dumbass. |
Letter from Florida teacher
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... I used to negotiate teachers' union contracts with school boards. Some of the school boards hired terrorists to handle their side of the negotiations. Sorry. I couldn't help myself. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...22/ai_14995074 Eisboch :-) Yeah, teachers should have remained grossly underpaid and subject to being fired by administrators on a whim. Firing on a whim is a fairy tale. My wife (an ex teacher) has told me numerous horror stories about incompetent teachers keeping their jobs because of the union. The District tried to get rid of these teachers with no luck. Because you are not aware of teachers being fired on a whim doesn't mean it didn't or doesn't happen. Teachers should be able to be fired for misconduct or incompetence, as any employee (union or not) should. What my wife saw was incompetent teachers keeping their jobs because of the union. We're not discussing the same thing here. We're talking about teachers being fired on a whim. |
Letter from Florida teacher
On Mar 14, 8:16*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... I used to negotiate teachers' union contracts with school boards. Some of the school boards hired terrorists to handle their side of the negotiations. Sorry. *I couldn't help myself. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...22/ai_14995074 Eisboch * :-) Yeah, teachers should have remained grossly underpaid and subject to being fired by administrators on a whim. Firing on a whim is a fairy tale. * My wife (an ex teacher) has told me numerous horror stories about incompetent teachers keeping their jobs because of the union. *The District tried to get rid of these teachers with no luck.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry knows that. My mom organized our towns teachers nearly 5 decades ago, Harry is full of ****.. |
Letter from Florida teacher
HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... I used to negotiate teachers' union contracts with school boards. Some of the school boards hired terrorists to handle their side of the negotiations. Sorry. I couldn't help myself. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...22/ai_14995074 Eisboch :-) Yeah, teachers should have remained grossly underpaid and subject to being fired by administrators on a whim. Why should the be protected? If the teach is not meeting the standards for teaching they should be fired. Would you rather have a ****ed off teacher or a thousand students who suffer? |
Letter from Florida teacher
wrote in message ... On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:25:44 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message ... On Mar 13, 7:42 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote: Now imagine we get MTV or CNN or BBC into the schools so they can see what is out there beyond the hate.. I know I tend to ramble but I still submit it can be done at least to the point where extremists can be considered no more than a pain in the ass. It will just take a couple of generations to let the falsehoods die off, help them have stable governments so they can have jobs, schools, mass communication. Yes, it may take lot of time work and money and maybe even blood to get them there.. But it can and must be done. And with a little backbone, we in the free world can get them there... just like the south... Hope that all makes sense. ------------------------------------------------------ Sure it makes sense, and it's a good plan. Meanwhile, for the 100 years or so it takes for this to happen, we need to be on guard, willing to fight and kill to defend ourselves, our freedom and culture. Otherwise, we won't be here 100 years from now to embrace the enlightened. Islamic fundamentalists have sworn to destroy us. Eisboch The biggest weapon in the terrorists arsenal? Poverty and hunger. People who are destitute and hungry with no hope are very easy to recruit. They will go along with anyone who comes to them with the answers to their immediate problems. If we had spent the money already wasted on this idiotic and futile "War on Terror" building houses, schools and hospitals and feeding people's families, 3000 of our soldiers would still be alive and home with their families. Instead, they are ripe for the picking when the terrorists come calling, looking for anyone who wants someone to care about them. Then explain why most of the people who flew the airliners on 9/11 were from wealthy families. |
Letter from Florida teacher
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:25:12 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote: wrote in message The biggest weapon in the terrorists arsenal? Poverty and hunger. People who are destitute and hungry with no hope are very easy to recruit. They will go along with anyone who comes to them with the answers to their immediate problems. If we had spent the money already wasted on this idiotic and futile "War on Terror" building houses, schools and hospitals and feeding people's families, 3000 of our soldiers would still be alive and home with their families. Instead, they are ripe for the picking when the terrorists come calling, looking for anyone who wants someone to care about them. Then explain why most of the people who flew the airliners on 9/11 were from wealthy families. Education breeds terrorism? Uh oh. --Vic |
Letter from Florida teacher
On Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:19:16 -0400, DK wrote:
There are labor laws outside of unions, dumbass. LOL, never heard of employment-at-will, have you? |
Letter from Florida teacher
On Mar 14, 9:40*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... JimH wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... I used to negotiate teachers' union contracts with school boards. Some of the school boards hired terrorists to handle their side of the negotiations. Sorry. *I couldn't help myself. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...22/ai_14995074 Eisboch * :-) Yeah, teachers should have remained grossly underpaid and subject to being fired by administrators on a whim. Firing on a whim is a fairy tale. * My wife (an ex teacher) has told me numerous horror stories about incompetent teachers keeping their jobs because of the union. *The District tried to get rid of these teachers with no luck. Because you are not aware of teachers being fired on a whim doesn't mean it didn't or doesn't happen. Teachers should be able to be fired for misconduct or incompetence, as any employee (union or not) should. What my wife saw was incompetent teachers keeping their jobs because of the union.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Tell her she should be more competent then. |
Letter from Florida teacher
On Mar 14, 8:16*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... I used to negotiate teachers' union contracts with school boards. Some of the school boards hired terrorists to handle their side of the negotiations. Sorry. *I couldn't help myself. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...22/ai_14995074 Eisboch * :-) Yeah, teachers should have remained grossly underpaid and subject to being fired by administrators on a whim. Firing on a whim is a fairy tale. * My wife (an ex teacher) has told me numerous horror stories about incompetent teachers keeping their jobs because of the union. *The District tried to get rid of these teachers with no luck.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Let me guess. They're all incompetent except her, right? |
Letter from Florida teacher
On Mar 14, 6:44*pm, HK wrote:
BAR wrote: wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... wrote: "HK" wrote in message news:45OdneCHQ50nL0TanZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@comcast. com... Eisboch wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Win *yet*? You don't really think we are going to put down the Islamists, do you. The ones that have sworn to Allah to kill you, me, our wives, kids, families, neighborhoods? * Those? You betcha. Eisboch Yeah, how? They're in 50 different countries. It is not going to happen via military action. Negotiation. That's the ticket. Right Harry? What's your plan, Florida Jim? Never ending military action, sacrificing the sons and daughters of other Americans? My plan is to test Harry's notion that you can negotiate with terrorists. Any volunteers? Harry!------------- Harry! You there Harry? * * * Damn. He ran away again. Harry, Nick Berg's Iraqi visa is being used anymore, I'm sure they will let you have it. I used to negotiate teachers' union contracts with school boards. Some of the school boards hired terrorists to handle their side of the negotiations.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh, boy, I could just see you "negotiate" with ANY body. What did you do, call them your low life childish names and insult them like a school boy until they caved? |
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