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JoeSpareBedroom March 13th 08 12:14 AM

One must wonder...
 
"John H." wrote in message
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:06:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:16:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:40:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:10:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:31:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:19:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
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HK wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer
is
a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when
a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the
Democrats
may
lose
their base.

Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what
political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.


Republicans involved in these scandals are identified by
political
party
because the GOP likes to identify itself as the party of
"family
values,"
and since it obviously is not, it is interesting to point out
the
various
sexual adventures of "family value"
conservatives/Republicans.
My
favorite exposes involve conservative/Republicans and gays.

One can only conclude, by your statments above, that the
Democrat
party
has no values, none, nada, zip. Is that correct.

Throw the bar on the floor, then everything we do will be
above
the
bar
aren't a great party, that's the Democrats.



Democrats are less likely to suggest that people live like
families
which
only exist in books written for toddlers.


From what I've seen, you could put your period after the word
'families'
in
your sentence above.
--
John


That's because you're lying. Or, because you don't see much. Don't
fret
about it. It's a plague.


You, Harry, and JimH sure seem to want to put a lying moniker on
me.

I don't do it, and I don't much like those who do.

When I look at the out of wedlock birth statistics in DC and then
look
at
the percent of Democrats in DC, I get the idea that families don't
mean
much.

IOW, Democrats are less likely to suggest people live like
families.
--
John


I get the idea you either flunked statistics, or never bothered to
take
a
course. Fortunately, your lack of knowledge in that area affects
nobody
but
yourself.


IOW, nothing.
--
John


In other studies, income level is correlated to out of wedlock births.
Your
"study" seems to point to something nobody else has ever noticed:
political
labels. Maybe you should get in touch with some of the bigger polling
companies and inform them of your discovery.

Do you know the difference between cause and correlation?


I'm not referring to 'studies'. I'm referring to facts.
--
John


The "facts" are the real people and the things they do, or things which
happen to them. The people and the childbirths are real. The meaning you
assign to them is not real. It's an interpretation.

If you can find a reputable statistician who connects out of wedlock
pregnancies with political affiliation in a meaningful way, then I'll
agree
with you. Until then, you're just being disruptive.


Do you think all those out of wedlock mothers. or their mothers, in DC
are
voting Republican?
--
John



It doesn't matter to me. You're making the connection. Real people who
study
these things say income is the issue, not political affiliation.

I don't see the information you were told to find. Turn off the TV and
find
it.


Oh, I see. Well, if the truth doesn't matter to you, go to bed.

Good night.
--
John



Are you saying out of wedlock pregnancy is caused by political affiliation?



John H.[_3_] March 13th 08 01:00 AM

One must wonder...
 
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:16:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:40:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:10:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:31:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:6k7gt31p608ht8ao4ae9ps8llnr5gi638s@4ax .com...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:19:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
news:EI2dnWbACPl_WEranZ2dnUVZ_vTinZ2d@com cast.com...
HK wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the Democrats
may
lose
their base.

Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what
political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.


Republicans involved in these scandals are identified by
political
party
because the GOP likes to identify itself as the party of "family
values,"
and since it obviously is not, it is interesting to point out the
various
sexual adventures of "family value" conservatives/Republicans. My
favorite exposes involve conservative/Republicans and gays.

One can only conclude, by your statments above, that the Democrat
party
has no values, none, nada, zip. Is that correct.

Throw the bar on the floor, then everything we do will be above
the
bar
aren't a great party, that's the Democrats.



Democrats are less likely to suggest that people live like families
which
only exist in books written for toddlers.


From what I've seen, you could put your period after the word
'families'
in
your sentence above.
--
John


That's because you're lying. Or, because you don't see much. Don't
fret
about it. It's a plague.


You, Harry, and JimH sure seem to want to put a lying moniker on me.

I don't do it, and I don't much like those who do.

When I look at the out of wedlock birth statistics in DC and then look
at
the percent of Democrats in DC, I get the idea that families don't
mean
much.

IOW, Democrats are less likely to suggest people live like families.
--
John


I get the idea you either flunked statistics, or never bothered to take
a
course. Fortunately, your lack of knowledge in that area affects nobody
but
yourself.


IOW, nothing.
--
John


In other studies, income level is correlated to out of wedlock births.
Your
"study" seems to point to something nobody else has ever noticed:
political
labels. Maybe you should get in touch with some of the bigger polling
companies and inform them of your discovery.

Do you know the difference between cause and correlation?


I'm not referring to 'studies'. I'm referring to facts.
--
John



The "facts" are the real people and the things they do, or things which
happen to them. The people and the childbirths are real. The meaning you
assign to them is not real. It's an interpretation.

If you can find a reputable statistician who connects out of wedlock
pregnancies with political affiliation in a meaningful way, then I'll agree
with you. Until then, you're just being disruptive.


Do you think all those out of wedlock mothers. or their mothers, in DC are
voting Republican?
--
John

John H.[_3_] March 13th 08 01:08 AM

One must wonder...
 
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:06:38 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:16:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:40:52 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:10:46 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:25hgt350rqm3rp3qf5ddo56f8fpvhfq6pl@4ax .com...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:31:55 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
news:6k7gt31p608ht8ao4ae9ps8llnr5gi638s@4 ax.com...
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:19:33 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

"BAR" wrote in message
news:EI2dnWbACPl_WEranZ2dnUVZ_vTinZ2d@c omcast.com...
HK wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 07:40:23 -0500, John H.
wrote:

why most of the major media refuse to mention that Spitzer is
a
Democrat,
although the party affiliation is mentioned ad nauseum when a
Republican is
involved in a sex scandal.

It couldn't be media bias, could it?

http://tinyurl.com/2c3kms

The undereducated must never know the truth, else the
Democrats
may
lose
their base.

Got a better one for you.

Go to Detroit news - paper, TV - whatever, and find what
political
affiliation the mayor of Detroit is.

Oh - the reason?

He's involved with the murder a hooker.

And covering/obstructing the investigation.


Republicans involved in these scandals are identified by
political
party
because the GOP likes to identify itself as the party of
"family
values,"
and since it obviously is not, it is interesting to point out
the
various
sexual adventures of "family value" conservatives/Republicans.
My
favorite exposes involve conservative/Republicans and gays.

One can only conclude, by your statments above, that the
Democrat
party
has no values, none, nada, zip. Is that correct.

Throw the bar on the floor, then everything we do will be above
the
bar
aren't a great party, that's the Democrats.



Democrats are less likely to suggest that people live like
families
which
only exist in books written for toddlers.


From what I've seen, you could put your period after the word
'families'
in
your sentence above.
--
John


That's because you're lying. Or, because you don't see much. Don't
fret
about it. It's a plague.


You, Harry, and JimH sure seem to want to put a lying moniker on me.

I don't do it, and I don't much like those who do.

When I look at the out of wedlock birth statistics in DC and then
look
at
the percent of Democrats in DC, I get the idea that families don't
mean
much.

IOW, Democrats are less likely to suggest people live like families.
--
John


I get the idea you either flunked statistics, or never bothered to
take
a
course. Fortunately, your lack of knowledge in that area affects
nobody
but
yourself.


IOW, nothing.
--
John


In other studies, income level is correlated to out of wedlock births.
Your
"study" seems to point to something nobody else has ever noticed:
political
labels. Maybe you should get in touch with some of the bigger polling
companies and inform them of your discovery.

Do you know the difference between cause and correlation?


I'm not referring to 'studies'. I'm referring to facts.
--
John


The "facts" are the real people and the things they do, or things which
happen to them. The people and the childbirths are real. The meaning you
assign to them is not real. It's an interpretation.

If you can find a reputable statistician who connects out of wedlock
pregnancies with political affiliation in a meaningful way, then I'll
agree
with you. Until then, you're just being disruptive.


Do you think all those out of wedlock mothers. or their mothers, in DC are
voting Republican?
--
John



It doesn't matter to me. You're making the connection. Real people who study
these things say income is the issue, not political affiliation.

I don't see the information you were told to find. Turn off the TV and find
it.


Oh, I see. Well, if the truth doesn't matter to you, go to bed.

Good night.
--
John

John H.[_3_] March 13th 08 01:54 AM

One must wonder...
 
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:14:30 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

A bunch snipped.


It doesn't matter to me. You're making the connection. Real people who
study
these things say income is the issue, not political affiliation.

I don't see the information you were told to find. Turn off the TV and
find
it.


Oh, I see. Well, if the truth doesn't matter to you, go to bed.

Good night.
--
John



Are you saying out of wedlock pregnancy is caused by political affiliation?


Doug, I told you to go to bed.

Out-of-wedlock pregnancies are caused by sex between a male and a female.
The female is not married. The male may or may not be married.

I should have explained that to you.
--
John

JoeSpareBedroom March 13th 08 01:59 AM

One must wonder...
 
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:14:30 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote:

A bunch snipped.


It doesn't matter to me. You're making the connection. Real people who
study
these things say income is the issue, not political affiliation.

I don't see the information you were told to find. Turn off the TV and
find
it.


Oh, I see. Well, if the truth doesn't matter to you, go to bed.

Good night.
--
John



Are you saying out of wedlock pregnancy is caused by political
affiliation?


Doug, I told you to go to bed.

Out-of-wedlock pregnancies are caused by sex between a male and a female.
The female is not married. The male may or may not be married.

I should have explained that to you.
--
John



In that case, your use of the political affiliation connection was nonsense.



BAR March 13th 08 02:00 AM

One must wonder...
 
wrote:

We don't know if he cheated on his wife. She may have had full
knowlege of what he was doing, and for all we actually know, may have
been a participant.


You didn't see the video of the Spitzer's arriving for Monday's press
conference, did you?

You didn't watch the video of the press conference that Spitzer held
Monday, did you.

If looks could kill. I'll bet the former Mrs. Spitzer and her new
boyfriend will enjoy the 5th Avenue apartment once she throws Mr.
Spitzer out on his ass.





BAR March 13th 08 02:05 AM

One must wonder...
 
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
I don't believe that sexual relationships between consenting adults
is the business of anyone other than the adults involved in the
relationship.

Try that line on your wife and see how it flies.


We agree. We're loyal to each other because we are, but we don't
believe that matters of sexuality between consenting adults should be
the business of the law, or even the general public.

I don't give a damn who Governor Spitzer sleeps with, not even if he
sleeps with hookers, so long as he is using his own money to pay for
his fun. If he was using public funds, he should be prosecuted for
that, but not for the sex.


I think prostitution and drugs should be decriminalized, but i would
never recommend we just ignore those crimes we don't agree with. I
guess that is one of the things you and will just disagree.



If prostitution is decriminalized, well, then, it isn't a crime, is it?

Stupid laws should be fought. If we followed your example, we'd still
have segregation.


We have an established way to change those laws you call stupid. It is
called the legislative process. You are free to encourage your Democrat
brothers and sisters to offer a bill decriminalizing prostitution. Or,
you can go and have a state or municipality enact a law decriminalizing
prostitution.

I am suprised the party of low morales and no ethics, the Democrat
party, hasn't gotten this accomplished yet.

HK March 13th 08 02:07 AM

One must wonder...
 
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
I don't believe that sexual relationships between consenting
adults is the business of anyone other than the adults involved in
the relationship.

Try that line on your wife and see how it flies.


We agree. We're loyal to each other because we are, but we don't
believe that matters of sexuality between consenting adults should
be the business of the law, or even the general public.

I don't give a damn who Governor Spitzer sleeps with, not even if he
sleeps with hookers, so long as he is using his own money to pay for
his fun. If he was using public funds, he should be prosecuted for
that, but not for the sex.

I think prostitution and drugs should be decriminalized, but i would
never recommend we just ignore those crimes we don't agree with. I
guess that is one of the things you and will just disagree.



If prostitution is decriminalized, well, then, it isn't a crime, is it?

Stupid laws should be fought. If we followed your example, we'd still
have segregation.


We have an established way to change those laws you call stupid. It is
called the legislative process. You are free to encourage your Democrat
brothers and sisters to offer a bill decriminalizing prostitution. Or,
you can go and have a state or municipality enact a law decriminalizing
prostitution.

I am suprised the party of low morales and no ethics, the Democrat
party, hasn't gotten this accomplished yet.


There is *nothing* a prostitute does that compares in depravity to what
Bush and Cheney have perpetrated on this country and the world.



JoeSpareBedroom March 13th 08 02:09 AM

One must wonder...
 
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
I don't believe that sexual relationships between consenting adults
is the business of anyone other than the adults involved in the
relationship.

Try that line on your wife and see how it flies.


We agree. We're loyal to each other because we are, but we don't
believe that matters of sexuality between consenting adults should be
the business of the law, or even the general public.

I don't give a damn who Governor Spitzer sleeps with, not even if he
sleeps with hookers, so long as he is using his own money to pay for
his fun. If he was using public funds, he should be prosecuted for
that, but not for the sex.

I think prostitution and drugs should be decriminalized, but i would
never recommend we just ignore those crimes we don't agree with. I
guess that is one of the things you and will just disagree.



If prostitution is decriminalized, well, then, it isn't a crime, is it?

Stupid laws should be fought. If we followed your example, we'd still
have segregation.


We have an established way to change those laws you call stupid. It is
called the legislative process. You are free to encourage your Democrat
brothers and sisters to offer a bill decriminalizing prostitution. Or, you
can go and have a state or municipality enact a law decriminalizing
prostitution.

I am suprised the party of low morales and no ethics, the Democrat party,
hasn't gotten this accomplished yet.



It's already legal in two states, although heavily regulated.



BAR March 13th 08 02:37 AM

One must wonder...
 
wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:00:22 -0400, BAR wrote:

wrote:
We don't know if he cheated on his wife. She may have had full
knowlege of what he was doing, and for all we actually know, may have
been a participant.

You didn't see the video of the Spitzer's arriving for Monday's press
conference, did you?

You didn't watch the video of the press conference that Spitzer held
Monday, did you.

If looks could kill. I'll bet the former Mrs. Spitzer and her new
boyfriend will enjoy the 5th Avenue apartment once she throws Mr.
Spitzer out on his ass.


I saw both. We don't know the answer to the question I raised. I don't know, and
you don't know.



And, to be just a little more fanciful, the all three could have been
wearing diapers while swinging from a street light? We could play this
game forever.



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