On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 15:01:04 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

2) I don't mind ****ing off the Kennedy's, but geographically I hope
it is not cutting off one's nose to spite one's face (the studies say,
not). Wind is a good way to go, though, and I suspect that the project
will be approved this year and we may see a turbine in place in about
4 years....

http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...rpc=22&sp=true

"Eat Me, Trolls" wrote in message
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Analysts have said that gasoline could reach $4 a gallon by this
spring,

Analysts wanna scare the price up that high... Bush knew...another
lie.


One must keep in mind that the companies which process the trading on the
futures exchanges make money no matter who trades, and no matter who wins or
loses. There probably isn't a presidential candidate who isn't feeding at
the trough, in terms of contributions from financial services companies. So,
the gambling parlors will never close, and oil prices will never be fully
pegged to reality.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 01 Mar 2008 15:01:04 -0500, Gene Kearns
wrote:

2) I don't mind ****ing off the Kennedy's, but geographically I hope
it is not cutting off one's nose to spite one's face (the studies say,
not). Wind is a good way to go, though, and I suspect that the project
will be approved this year and we may see a turbine in place in about
4 years....

http://www.reuters.com/article/domes...rpc=22&sp=true


Not that I particularly care or am even concerned, but it sure won't
surprise me to read a future report by an AGore wannabe that widespread use
of wind power has detrimental effects on the earth's natural air currents,
seed distribution and overall global tinkering with nature.

Nuclear power is the answer. Clean, safe and has been the center of our
solar system and of the universe for that matter, for billions of years.

Eisboch

On Mar 1, 7:41*pm, "Canuck57" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:38sjs3h82ded28g7gqgm79uq7djnd2ag6e@4ax .com...

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 14:32:58 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Everyone says 4 dollars... I will throw my prediction in, I think we
will test 5 dollars a gallon before the end of the year.

I'll take that bet. *I'll say that gas will be back at $2.34/gal by
the end of the year.

And oil will be down around $60/bl.

What do you base that on?

Fantasy what?

If I knew you, I would gave you 3:1 odds against and an $10,000 wager you
are wrong.

Holy crap, I was just going to bet him and the loser has to answer the
drunken dougies questions for a week

Canuck57 wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 14:32:58 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Everyone says 4 dollars... I will throw my prediction in, I think we
will test 5 dollars a gallon before the end of the year.
I'll take that bet. I'll say that gas will be back at $2.34/gal by
the end of the year.

And oil will be down around $60/bl.

What do you base that on?

Fantasy what?

If I knew you, I would gave you 3:1 odds against and an $10,000 wager you
are wrong.




I'll bet that Dicque Cheney is working right now with his "BIG OIL"
buddies to try to knock the price of gas down temporarily two weeks
before the November elections.

On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:41:36 GMT, "Canuck57"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 14:32:58 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Everyone says 4 dollars... I will throw my prediction in, I think we
will test 5 dollars a gallon before the end of the year.

I'll take that bet. I'll say that gas will be back at $2.34/gal by
the end of the year.

And oil will be down around $60/bl.

What do you base that on?

Fantasy what?

If I knew you, I would gave you 3:1 odds against and an $10,000 wager you
are wrong.

Save the post - it's a lock.

Oh, and short oil sometime in July - say at $68.

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 16:50:23 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Mar 1, 7:41*pm, "Canuck57" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:38sjs3h82ded28g7gqgm79uq7djnd2ag6e@4ax .com...

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 14:32:58 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Everyone says 4 dollars... I will throw my prediction in, I think we
will test 5 dollars a gallon before the end of the year.

I'll take that bet. *I'll say that gas will be back at $2.34/gal by
the end of the year.

And oil will be down around $60/bl.

What do you base that on?

Fantasy what?

If I knew you, I would gave you 3:1 odds against and an $10,000 wager you
are wrong.

Holy crap, I was just going to bet him and the loser has to answer the
drunken dougies questions for a week

For you and you only.

If oil doesn't drop to around - say plus 5/minus4 - $60 by the end of
the year, I will give you that boat I told you about a month or so
ago.

There - right out in public. :)

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 14:32:58 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Everyone says 4 dollars... I will throw my prediction in, I think we
will test 5 dollars a gallon before the end of the year.

I'll take that bet. I'll say that gas will be back at $2.34/gal by
the end of the year.

And oil will be down around $60/bl.



I don't know about that. There's nothing on the horizon to influence it
that way. I'd like to hear your reasoning.

In a way, I think it would be good for oil to hover around $100 a barrel for
a couple of years or more. In the past, every time there has been a sharp
uptick in the price of oil a bunch of lip service has been given to finding
energy "alternatives" and to decrease or eliminate our dependence on oil.
But, as soon as the price retreats back to half of the increase, all the
enthusiasm goes away and it's back to business as usual.

The current spike in oil prices has produced some serious commitments by
industry (more so than governments) to develop alternative energy sources.
(the government still thinks "corn" is the answer). The auto industry is
tripping over themselves introducing high mileage hybrids. There is a
serious revival of interest and new developments in solar power that are
very promising and exciting. I was just reading about a new auto soon to
be introduced by Volkswagen that is a diesel/electric hybrid (catches my
attention!) that offers very good performance while delivering 60+ mpg.
For the first time, it seems like the consuming public is having a mind set
change and are beginning to accept and even demand highly efficient
products. There's even a growing acceptance of the need for new nuclear
power plants.

We really can't afford to screw up again and treat this oil price cycle as
another temporary event because the next cycle will probably put us out of
business.

Eisboch

"HK" wrote in message
...

I'll bet that Dicque Cheney is working right now with his "BIG OIL"
buddies to try to knock the price of gas down temporarily two weeks before
the November elections.


Sure he is Harry. Sure he is.

The blame for the price of oil doesn't reside with politicians, current or
past.
The blame resides with us.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
I'll bet that Dicque Cheney is working right now with his "BIG OIL"
buddies to try to knock the price of gas down temporarily two weeks before
the November elections.


Sure he is Harry. Sure he is.

The blame for the price of oil doesn't reside with politicians, current or
past.
The blame resides with us.

Eisboch




I think a steep "excess profits tax" would tighten things up a hair,
that and members representing the public and responsible to it sitting
on big oil boards.