Don White wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
Thanks, Don. Harry feels much better now.

Do you spit or swallow, Don?
--
John H



I wonder what the grandkids would think of grumpy... er..grampy if they knew
what he says on a public forum.



John probably learned that question and the right answer during his time
in uniform.

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:31:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:23:55 -0500, HK wrote:

There were a few questions a couple of weeks ago about umbrella rigs.

Here's a commercial webpage that shows a variety of umbrella rigs, their
components, variations, et cetera.

http://www.cnksal****ertackle.com/home.html

tandem rigs with parachutes or bucktails. Only way to go.

Of course, if you did more than 'drift fishing' within twelve feet of the
marina, you'd know that.

I single rig parachute rigs - very seldom use the spreaders although I
have a full set of them from 6 inch to 24 inch and in several
configurations.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:31:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:23:55 -0500, HK wrote:

There were a few questions a couple of weeks ago about umbrella rigs.

Here's a commercial webpage that shows a variety of umbrella rigs, their
components, variations, et cetera.

http://www.cnksal****ertackle.com/home.html
tandem rigs with parachutes or bucktails. Only way to go.

Of course, if you did more than 'drift fishing' within twelve feet of the
marina, you'd know that.

I single rig parachute rigs - very seldom use the spreaders although I
have a full set of them from 6 inch to 24 inch and in several
configurations.


It's really not necessary to tow all that metal to catch stripers, and
when you do, it isn't much fun reeling them in. I suppose the next big
thing for the heavy metal fishermen around here will be electric reels,
the kind the wire fishermen use. I don't see what the sport or pleasure
is in using such ungainly gear for stripers.

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:50:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:31:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:23:55 -0500, HK wrote:

There were a few questions a couple of weeks ago about umbrella rigs.

Here's a commercial webpage that shows a variety of umbrella rigs, their
components, variations, et cetera.

http://www.cnksal****ertackle.com/home.html

tandem rigs with parachutes or bucktails. Only way to go.

Of course, if you did more than 'drift fishing' within twelve feet of the
marina, you'd know that.

I single rig parachute rigs - very seldom use the spreaders although I
have a full set of them from 6 inch to 24 inch and in several
configurations.

Have you ever tried tandem parachute rigs? In the MD portion of the bay, no
more than two hooked lures can be used on one line. A tandem rig allows the
use of two lures.

I'd not try a Robalo on a tandem, as Harry suggested, because the Robalos
move around way too much. You'd have one tangled mess before the lures were
20 yards from the boat.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:50:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:31:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:23:55 -0500, HK wrote:

There were a few questions a couple of weeks ago about umbrella rigs.

Here's a commercial webpage that shows a variety of umbrella rigs, their
components, variations, et cetera.

http://www.cnksal****ertackle.com/home.html
tandem rigs with parachutes or bucktails. Only way to go.

Of course, if you did more than 'drift fishing' within twelve feet of the
marina, you'd know that.
I single rig parachute rigs - very seldom use the spreaders although I
have a full set of them from 6 inch to 24 inch and in several
configurations.

Have you ever tried tandem parachute rigs? In the MD portion of the bay, no
more than two hooked lures can be used on one line. A tandem rig allows the
use of two lures.

I'd not try a Robalo on a tandem, as Harry suggested, because the Robalos
move around way too much. You'd have one tangled mess before the lures were
20 yards from the boat.



I wouldn't put a Robalo on a tandem, either. Far too heavy for striper
trolling. I use a Rapala.

And I didn't say a tandem rig. I said hooked in tandem to a three way
swivel. Works fine, no tangles. The Rapala goes deep and pulls the soft
plastic down, but both baits stay away from each other. I troll two such
lines successfully, and have caught stripers on the Rapala and on the
soft plastic. No need for heavy line, either.

There's the smart way...and then there is the army way.

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:37:36 -0500, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:50:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:31:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:23:55 -0500, HK wrote:

There were a few questions a couple of weeks ago about umbrella rigs.

Here's a commercial webpage that shows a variety of umbrella rigs, their
components, variations, et cetera.

http://www.cnksal****ertackle.com/home.html
tandem rigs with parachutes or bucktails. Only way to go.

Of course, if you did more than 'drift fishing' within twelve feet of the
marina, you'd know that.
I single rig parachute rigs - very seldom use the spreaders although I
have a full set of them from 6 inch to 24 inch and in several
configurations.

Have you ever tried tandem parachute rigs? In the MD portion of the bay, no
more than two hooked lures can be used on one line. A tandem rig allows the
use of two lures.

I'd not try a Robalo on a tandem, as Harry suggested, because the Robalos
move around way too much. You'd have one tangled mess before the lures were
20 yards from the boat.



I wouldn't put a Robalo on a tandem, either. Far too heavy for striper
trolling. I use a Rapala.

And I didn't say a tandem rig. I said hooked in tandem to a three way
swivel. Works fine, no tangles. The Rapala goes deep and pulls the soft
plastic down, but both baits stay away from each other. I troll two such
lines successfully, and have caught stripers on the Rapala and on the
soft plastic. No need for heavy line, either.

There's the smart way...and then there is the army way.

Harry, I don't believe you.

I say that because of your dismal history.

And because you are always telling us how you *don't* troll (except here,
of course).

You're just too easy, Harry.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:30:56 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:50:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:31:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:23:55 -0500, HK wrote:

There were a few questions a couple of weeks ago about umbrella rigs.

Here's a commercial webpage that shows a variety of umbrella rigs, their
components, variations, et cetera.

http://www.cnksal****ertackle.com/home.html

tandem rigs with parachutes or bucktails. Only way to go.

Of course, if you did more than 'drift fishing' within twelve feet of the
marina, you'd know that.

I single rig parachute rigs - very seldom use the spreaders although I
have a full set of them from 6 inch to 24 inch and in several
configurations.

Have you ever tried tandem parachute rigs? In the MD portion of the bay, no
more than two hooked lures can be used on one line. A tandem rig allows the
use of two lures.

Actually, I have, but they are hard to fish in the rips that I
normally fish. My normal hunting grounds - Fisher's Island, Westerly
Reef, Seal Rock and Breton Reef off Newport and The Race aren't really
conducive to tandem rigging anything to tell the truth except at ebb
tide when you can drift through, over and around structure.

I'd not try a Robalo on a tandem, as Harry suggested, because the Robalos
move around way too much. You'd have one tangled mess before the lures were
20 yards from the boat.

That's a new one on me - do you mean robablo as in fish robalo
(snook)?

Or do you mean Rapala?

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:37:36 -0500, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:50:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:31:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:23:55 -0500, HK wrote:

There were a few questions a couple of weeks ago about umbrella rigs.

Here's a commercial webpage that shows a variety of umbrella rigs, their
components, variations, et cetera.

http://www.cnksal****ertackle.com/home.html
tandem rigs with parachutes or bucktails. Only way to go.

Of course, if you did more than 'drift fishing' within twelve feet of the
marina, you'd know that.
I single rig parachute rigs - very seldom use the spreaders although I
have a full set of them from 6 inch to 24 inch and in several
configurations.
Have you ever tried tandem parachute rigs? In the MD portion of the bay, no
more than two hooked lures can be used on one line. A tandem rig allows the
use of two lures.

I'd not try a Robalo on a tandem, as Harry suggested, because the Robalos
move around way too much. You'd have one tangled mess before the lures were
20 yards from the boat.


I wouldn't put a Robalo on a tandem, either. Far too heavy for striper
trolling. I use a Rapala.

And I didn't say a tandem rig. I said hooked in tandem to a three way
swivel. Works fine, no tangles. The Rapala goes deep and pulls the soft
plastic down, but both baits stay away from each other. I troll two such
lines successfully, and have caught stripers on the Rapala and on the
soft plastic. No need for heavy line, either.

There's the smart way...and then there is the army way.

Harry, I don't believe you.

I say that because of your dismal history.

And because you are always telling us how you *don't* troll (except here,
of course).

You're just too easy, Harry.


I'll tell you, Mr. Swallow, I don't give a crap what you believe or
don't believe. It doesn't matter to me or the rest of the world.

I don't like to troll for fish very often, not in the Bay, at least.
It's too mindless of an activity for me. But I sure it suits you just fine.

Just because I don't have much use for striper trolling doesn't mean I
don't know how to do it.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:30:56 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:50:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:31:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:23:55 -0500, HK wrote:

There were a few questions a couple of weeks ago about umbrella rigs.

Here's a commercial webpage that shows a variety of umbrella rigs, their
components, variations, et cetera.

http://www.cnksal****ertackle.com/home.html
tandem rigs with parachutes or bucktails. Only way to go.

Of course, if you did more than 'drift fishing' within twelve feet of the
marina, you'd know that.
I single rig parachute rigs - very seldom use the spreaders although I
have a full set of them from 6 inch to 24 inch and in several
configurations.
Have you ever tried tandem parachute rigs? In the MD portion of the bay, no
more than two hooked lures can be used on one line. A tandem rig allows the
use of two lures.

Actually, I have, but they are hard to fish in the rips that I
normally fish. My normal hunting grounds - Fisher's Island, Westerly
Reef, Seal Rock and Breton Reef off Newport and The Race aren't really
conducive to tandem rigging anything to tell the truth except at ebb
tide when you can drift through, over and around structure.

I'd not try a Robalo on a tandem, as Harry suggested, because the Robalos
move around way too much. You'd have one tangled mess before the lures were
20 yards from the boat.

That's a new one on me - do you mean robablo as in fish robalo
(snook)?

Or do you mean Rapala?


snerk

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:53:49 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:30:56 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:50:19 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 08:31:44 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 07:23:55 -0500, HK wrote:

There were a few questions a couple of weeks ago about umbrella rigs.

Here's a commercial webpage that shows a variety of umbrella rigs, their
components, variations, et cetera.

http://www.cnksal****ertackle.com/home.html

tandem rigs with parachutes or bucktails. Only way to go.

Of course, if you did more than 'drift fishing' within twelve feet of the
marina, you'd know that.

I single rig parachute rigs - very seldom use the spreaders although I
have a full set of them from 6 inch to 24 inch and in several
configurations.

Have you ever tried tandem parachute rigs? In the MD portion of the bay, no
more than two hooked lures can be used on one line. A tandem rig allows the
use of two lures.

Actually, I have, but they are hard to fish in the rips that I
normally fish. My normal hunting grounds - Fisher's Island, Westerly
Reef, Seal Rock and Breton Reef off Newport and The Race aren't really
conducive to tandem rigging anything to tell the truth except at ebb
tide when you can drift through, over and around structure.

I'd not try a Robalo on a tandem, as Harry suggested, because the Robalos
move around way too much. You'd have one tangled mess before the lures were
20 yards from the boat.

That's a new one on me - do you mean robablo as in fish robalo
(snook)?

Or do you mean Rapala?

No, I meant Rapala. I wouldn't try tandem lures in rips. We've got a nice
rip area down by the nuclear plant. Great for casting something like 'Bass
Assassins' and dragging back across the rocks. It's a damn busy area
though, so one person *must* pilot the boat.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."