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On Feb 28, 7:58Â*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Feb 28, 3:41 am, BAR wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Feb 27, 5:05�pm, "Sam" wrote: While I think it already is a free and competitive market, what changes would you propose?- Hide quoted text - The same measures that were taken against other vertically integrated oligarchies in the past. Power, phone, water, etc. [ Big Snip ] You want prices controls and regulation. Don't be so deliberately dense. Read instead of react. I'm sure you *snipped* it before you read it.......after all you've got Limbaugh and the rest of your trainers to tell you how liberals think, so why bother? Since you didn't bother to read before you reacted emotionally here, I'll repeat. What I would like to see would be meaningful competition at all level of the distribution process, an no more winks, nods, and reach arounds by the three main bedfellows. Why don't we limit profit to 1% on everything. One percent profit should be enough shouldn't it? I have no idea where you come up with some zany crap like that. It has no relevance to anything I posted here. Why do you believe in a free market when it comes to selling boats and cars but not when it comes to selling oil. Hello in there........ I am calling for the same kind of free market thta *does* exist when it comes to selling boats and cars and *doesn't* exist when it comes to selling oil. If you want the car business to adopt the oil company model, you would need to start by eliminating all of the independently owned new car dealerships across the country and make them "factory outlets". The auto factories occupy a similar space in the distribution chain that the refineries do, so you would really need to have the auto factories bought up by big steel producers, and you would need to eliminate the 1000,s of subcontracting companies that currently contribute to the construction of a car or truck. There's a very active free market in the auto and boat industries, due in part to the fact that new cars and new boats are always in competition with used products as well as new cars and boats built by other manufacturers. New boat companies start up every year. Most don't last all that long, but they start up nonetheless. When was the last time somebody started a new oil company? What I want to know is why is gasoline at the pump so cheap compared to the cost of a bbl of crude? When oil was $50 a bbl we were paying $3 per gallon of gas and now that oil is $100 a bbl we are still paying $3 per gallon. Why? Because there is no direct correlation between the price of refined products and the price of crude oil. They only thing they have in common is the same company is making money at every step of the distribution process. Can you spell "ENRON"? Chuck, If you really researched the oil industry, you would see that your understanding of the industry and your understanding of the competition that exist in the industry is way too simplistic and does not reflect the real world in any shape or form. Â*It reminds me of the simplistic comments I have heard the few times I have listened to right or left wing radio shows.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Whatever level of competition exists in the oil industry, it is inadequate to create a truly competitive market. During the spring of 2007, refined products went up substantially while the cost of a bbl of oil went down. Not a single company elected to pass this savings in the cost of raw material along to the final consumer; but in a truly competitive market that is *exactly* what would have happened. I believe that under all the smoke and mirrors employed to create the illusion of a complex and competitive market you will find a very few vertically integrated companies comprising an oligarchy. |
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On Feb 28, 10:50*am, "D.Duck" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Feb 28, 9:01 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There's the compassionate conservative christian way! ============================ How many American lives did it save when WWII ended?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Gee, I don't know, do you? Perhaps none. |
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On Feb 28, 4:57�am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:46:23 -0500, BAR wrote: D.Duck wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Chuck Gould wrote: On Feb 27, 5:05?pm, "Sam" wrote: While I think it already is a free and competitive market, what changes would you propose?- Hide quoted text - The same measures that were taken against other vertically integrated oligarchies in the past. Power, phone, water, etc. [ Big Snip ] You want prices controls and regulation. Why don't we limit profit to 1% on everything. One percent profit should be enough shouldn't it? Why do you believe in a free market when it comes to selling boats and cars but not when it comes to selling oil. What I want to know is why is gasoline at the pump so cheap compared to the cost of a bbl of crude? When oil was $50 a bbl we were paying $3 per gallon of gas and now that oil is $100 a bbl we are still paying $3 per gallon. Why? I think you're a little off on the price of gas vs. crude. �AT $50/bbl crude gas was in the $2.00 area. �The two don't track one for one and I believe a lot of the differential is conjured up in the trading pits. Interesting reading: http://www.eia.doe.gov/bookshelf/bro...esprimer/eia1_... I am trying to find information regarding the cost of crude and the cost of gasoline for the last 20 years. http://inflationdata.com/inflation/I...l_price_co...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Nice chart, but wow! Just look at how things have changed since 2006. In 2006, the oil companies were booking oil into their refineries at under $50 bbl. Now the oil companies charge themselves $100 a bbl. |
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:47:01 -0500, BAR wrote:
wrote: On Feb 27, 6:50 pm, "Sam" wrote: wrote in message ... Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? You make no sense. Probably not, to you. The supplier of the widget part is as dependent upon the widget manufacturer as the widget manufacturer is on the supplier of the widget part. But, the manufacture of the widget part controls the negotiation. JETSON!! Of wait, that was sprockets. Sorry. |
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 07:13:19 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote: Would it seem a bit excessive to create an infrastructure to store and transport refined products so you can run a filling station? Not if you are running a chain of stations, a station co-op association or your own distributorship. Who refines the products "openly traded on the commodity exchanges"? A wide range of companies who sell into the open market, highest bid gets the fuel. It's called a free market economy - anything else leads to shortages and rationing. Do you want rationing? I don't. |
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"BAR" wrote in message . .. Tax breaks and subsidies are used by government control behavior. Your behavior and that of the big oil companies it is all the same. snip... I'd rather the gov't treat them as the scoundrels they are. Lay out a new policy that benefits the consumer...if the oil companies don't like it, nationalize their holdings in the interest of national security. Ooops..one little problem...they own the politicians who make the laws. I like Tom's advice... nuke 'em all. |
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 06:51:31 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote: On Feb 28, 3:41*am, BAR wrote: Chuck Gould wrote: On Feb 27, 5:05?pm, "Sam" wrote: While I think it already is a free and competitive market, what changes would you propose?- Hide quoted text - The same measures that were taken against other vertically integrated oligarchies in the past. Power, phone, water, etc. [ Big Snip ] You want prices controls and regulation. Don't be so deliberately dense. Read instead of react. I'm sure you *snipped* it before you read it.......after all you've got Limbaugh and the rest of your trainers to tell you how liberals think, so why bother? Quit using the line reserved for me on other people. I'm glad to see you're still listening to Limbaugh on a regular basis. What did he have to say about the latest Obama/Hillary debate? It looked like Russert was being very nice to Obama and not so nice to Hillary. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 23:30:42 -0800 (PST), rhutton
wrote: On Feb 27, 11:36*am, "Don White" wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. snip.. Wow...wish I could buy regular self serve for that price. At 1.18 per liter... we pay at the rate of $4.46 per US gallon Hi there! Been gone from rec boats for about 5 yrs. Moved from central IL to the west coast of FL. Hard to believe... same old crew is still bitching about the same old. And they say you can't go home again. Welcome back. Whereabouts in Florida? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb? Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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On Feb 28, 12:24*pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:26:29 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 28, 10:50*am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message .... On Feb 28, 9:01 am, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message .... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There's the compassionate conservative christian way! ============================ How many American lives did it save when WWII ended?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Gee, I don't know, do you? Perhaps none. How many troops did we lose at Iwo Jima? Multiply that by all the other islands and the mainland controlled by Japan. That should give you a decent start. Those two bombs probably saved a hell of a lot of Japanese young men also. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - yeah, yeah, I know the rhetoric. I also know the speculation. What I don't know, and neither do you, is the question asked. I know that you christian conservative ex-military types are all for killing, and you don't think that talks can work. Too bad that's proven to be pure horse****. It's funny that when Reagan used diplomacy, it was a great and noble thing, if a democrat mentions it, it's horrible, stupid, and the only thing the enemy needs is a bomb shoved up their ass. |
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On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb? Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just ask Reagan if talks work. http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm Portions therein: Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States' intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and promoting peace. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:37:28 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: Now the oil companies charge themselves $100 a bbl. How do you suppose that price determined ? It doesn't matter why, it's just not fair. |
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On Feb 28, 1:43*pm, "Loogypicker" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:37:28 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: Now the oil companies charge themselves $100 a bbl. How do you suppose that price determined ? It doesn't matter why, it's just not fair. It's not me, Wayne, it's my little stalker boy/girl........ |
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On Feb 28, 1:35*pm, "Loogypicker" wrote:
"John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:04:45 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb? Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just ask Reagan if talks work. http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm Portions therein: Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States' intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and promoting peace. You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. And, you gotta know when to shoot and when to hold your fire. Of course, that assumes you've got something to shoot. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." But we haven't even TRIED yet to talk to Al Qaeda. You goose steppers won't even give them a chance to negotiate. How much madder to you want to make them?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - John, it's not me, it's my little stalker boy/girl. |
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wrote in message ... On Feb 28, 1:35 pm, "Loogypicker" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:04:45 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb? Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just ask Reagan if talks work. http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm Portions therein: Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States' intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and promoting peace. You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. And, you gotta know when to shoot and when to hold your fire. Of course, that assumes you've got something to shoot. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." But we haven't even TRIED yet to talk to Al Qaeda. You goose steppers won't even give them a chance to negotiate. How much madder to you want to make them?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - John, it's not me, it's my little stalker boy/girl. Hey, stop stalking me, dummy. |
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:35:22 GMT, "Loogypicker"
wrote: "John H." wrote in message .. . On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:04:45 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb? Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just ask Reagan if talks work. http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm Portions therein: Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States' intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and promoting peace. You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. And, you gotta know when to shoot and when to hold your fire. Of course, that assumes you've got something to shoot. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." But we haven't even TRIED yet to talk to Al Qaeda. You goose steppers won't even give them a chance to negotiate. How much madder to you want to make them? Oh. It's about talking to Al Qaeda. What part of our culture would you give them. Even though you're not a Christian, you still qualify as an infidel. Therefore, you should be put to death. Simple. Do you want to die or convert to Islam? End of negotiations. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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"John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:35:22 GMT, "Loogypicker" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:04:45 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb? Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just ask Reagan if talks work. http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm Portions therein: Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States' intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and promoting peace. You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. And, you gotta know when to shoot and when to hold your fire. Of course, that assumes you've got something to shoot. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." But we haven't even TRIED yet to talk to Al Qaeda. You goose steppers won't even give them a chance to negotiate. How much madder to you want to make them? Oh. It's about talking to Al Qaeda. Not just them, the Talyban too. |
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:52:02 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 28, 1:35*pm, "Loogypicker" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:04:45 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb? Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just ask Reagan if talks work. http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm Portions therein: Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States' intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and promoting peace. You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. And, you gotta know when to shoot and when to hold your fire. Of course, that assumes you've got something to shoot. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." But we haven't even TRIED yet to talk to Al Qaeda. You goose steppers won't even give them a chance to negotiate. How much madder to you want to make them?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - John, it's not me, it's my little stalker boy/girl. Sounded awfully similar to something you might say, though. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:53:46 GMT, "Loogypicker"
wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 28, 1:35 pm, "Loogypicker" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:04:45 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb? Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just ask Reagan if talks work. http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm Portions therein: Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States' intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and promoting peace. You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. And, you gotta know when to shoot and when to hold your fire. Of course, that assumes you've got something to shoot. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." But we haven't even TRIED yet to talk to Al Qaeda. You goose steppers won't even give them a chance to negotiate. How much madder to you want to make them?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - John, it's not me, it's my little stalker boy/girl. Hey, stop stalking me, dummy. You'd make life a lot easier for Loogy if you'd just tell him whether you're a boy or a girl. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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wrote in message ... On Feb 28, 1:43 pm, "Loogypicker" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:37:28 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: Now the oil companies charge themselves $100 a bbl. How do you suppose that price determined ? It doesn't matter why, it's just not fair. It's not me, Wayne, it's my little stalker boy/girl........ I'll be travelling to you're town real soon. Would you like to meet? I'd love to see you call me that to my face! |
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On Feb 28, 2:02*pm, "Loogypicker" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Feb 28, 1:43 pm, "Loogypicker" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:37:28 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: Now the oil companies charge themselves $100 a bbl. How do you suppose that price determined ? It doesn't matter why, it's just not fair. It's not me, Wayne, it's my little stalker boy/girl........ I'll be travelling to you're town real soon. Would you like to meet? I'd love to see you call me that to my face! No problem, little stalker boy/girl..... |
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On Feb 28, 2:00*pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:52:02 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 28, 1:35*pm, "Loogypicker" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:04:45 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb? Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just ask Reagan if talks work. http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm Portions therein: Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States' intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and promoting peace. You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. And, you gotta know when to shoot and when to hold your fire. Of course, that assumes you've got something to shoot. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." But we haven't even TRIED yet to talk to Al Qaeda. You goose steppers won't even give them a chance to negotiate. How much madder to you want to make them?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - John, it's not me, it's my little stalker boy/girl. Sounded awfully similar to something you might say, though. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you whine about other's personal attacks. |
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wrote in message ... On Feb 28, 2:02 pm, "Loogypicker" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 28, 1:43 pm, "Loogypicker" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:37:28 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould wrote: Now the oil companies charge themselves $100 a bbl. How do you suppose that price determined ? It doesn't matter why, it's just not fair. It's not me, Wayne, it's my little stalker boy/girl........ I'll be travelling to you're town real soon. Would you like to meet? I'd love to see you call me that to my face! No problem, little stalker boy/girl..... You may not no this, but I know Karate. |
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On Feb 28, 2:01*pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:53:46 GMT, "Loogypicker" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 28, 1:35 pm, "Loogypicker" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:04:45 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb? Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just ask Reagan if talks work. http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm Portions therein: Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States' intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and promoting peace. You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. And, you gotta know when to shoot and when to hold your fire. Of course, that assumes you've got something to shoot. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." But we haven't even TRIED yet to talk to Al Qaeda. You goose steppers won't even give them a chance to negotiate. How much madder to you want to make them?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - John, it's not me, it's my little stalker boy/girl. Hey, stop stalking me, dummy. You'd make life a lot easier for Loogy if you'd just tell him whether you're a boy or a girl. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, I'd really like to know if Jim is a boy or a girl. Anyone like that certainly isn't a man. |
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"Loogypicker" wrote in message news:rtDxj.20772$Hd.17194@trnddc02... "John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:35:22 GMT, "Loogypicker" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:04:45 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb? Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just ask Reagan if talks work. http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm Portions therein: Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States' intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and promoting peace. You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. And, you gotta know when to shoot and when to hold your fire. Of course, that assumes you've got something to shoot. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." But we haven't even TRIED yet to talk to Al Qaeda. You goose steppers won't even give them a chance to negotiate. How much madder to you want to make them? Oh. It's about talking to Al Qaeda. Not just them, the Talyban too. That's a lot of people to talk to. Narrow it down a bit and I'm sure Harry would volunteer to pop over there and negotiate a settlement for us. |
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wrote in message ... On Feb 28, 2:01 pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:53:46 GMT, "Loogypicker" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 28, 1:35 pm, "Loogypicker" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:04:45 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb? Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just ask Reagan if talks work. http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm Portions therein: Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States' intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and promoting peace. You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. And, you gotta know when to shoot and when to hold your fire. Of course, that assumes you've got something to shoot. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." But we haven't even TRIED yet to talk to Al Qaeda. You goose steppers won't even give them a chance to negotiate. How much madder to you want to make them?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - John, it's not me, it's my little stalker boy/girl. Hey, stop stalking me, dummy. You'd make life a lot easier for Loogy if you'd just tell him whether you're a boy or a girl. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, I'd really like to know if Jim is a boy or a girl. Anyone like that certainly isn't a man. You're petty name calling does nothing for you're credibility. |
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On Feb 28, 2:13*pm, wrote:
Hey Loog, why you lettin' some noob sockpuppet get you going? Write him off man... |
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"agent X" wrote in message ... "Loogypicker" wrote in message news:rtDxj.20772$Hd.17194@trnddc02... "John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:35:22 GMT, "Loogypicker" wrote: "John H." wrote in message m... On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:04:45 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb? Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just ask Reagan if talks work. http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm Portions therein: Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States' intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and promoting peace. You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. And, you gotta know when to shoot and when to hold your fire. Of course, that assumes you've got something to shoot. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." But we haven't even TRIED yet to talk to Al Qaeda. You goose steppers won't even give them a chance to negotiate. How much madder to you want to make them? Oh. It's about talking to Al Qaeda. Not just them, the Talyban too. That's a lot of people to talk to. Narrow it down a bit and I'm sure Harry would volunteer to pop over there and negotiate a settlement for us. We just have to talk to the leaders, I'm sure the rest will fall in line. If we can stop them from hating us it will go along way towards stopping hate. Maybe we could use Harry's lobsta boat to sign the treaties on! |
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agent X wrote:
"Loogypicker" wrote in message news:rtDxj.20772$Hd.17194@trnddc02... "John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:35:22 GMT, "Loogypicker" wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:04:45 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb? Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just ask Reagan if talks work. http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm Portions therein: Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States' intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and promoting peace. You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. And, you gotta know when to shoot and when to hold your fire. Of course, that assumes you've got something to shoot. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." But we haven't even TRIED yet to talk to Al Qaeda. You goose steppers won't even give them a chance to negotiate. How much madder to you want to make them? Oh. It's about talking to Al Qaeda. Not just them, the Talyban too. That's a lot of people to talk to. Narrow it down a bit and I'm sure Harry would volunteer to pop over there and negotiate a settlement for us. I think he is handling that right now. They are having a meeting at "the del" and Harry is making the Powerpoint presentation on getting rid of the Republicans,Al Qaeda, and the Taliban, in that order. |
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:13:19 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 28, 2:00*pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:52:02 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 28, 1:35*pm, "Loogypicker" wrote: "John H." wrote in message . .. On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:04:45 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb? Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just ask Reagan if talks work. http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm Portions therein: Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States' intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and promoting peace. You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. And, you gotta know when to shoot and when to hold your fire. Of course, that assumes you've got something to shoot. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." But we haven't even TRIED yet to talk to Al Qaeda. You goose steppers won't even give them a chance to negotiate. How much madder to you want to make them?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - John, it's not me, it's my little stalker boy/girl. Sounded awfully similar to something you might say, though. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And you whine about other's personal attacks. It sure wasn't meant to be a personal attack. The statement fit well with the comments you've made about diplomacy and negotiation. Are you *against* negotiating with Al Qaeda? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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"Loogypicker" wrote in message news:1%Dxj.36736$v57.18776@trnddc05... "agent X" wrote in message ... "Loogypicker" wrote in message news:rtDxj.20772$Hd.17194@trnddc02... "John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:35:22 GMT, "Loogypicker" wrote: "John H." wrote in message om... On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:04:45 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb? Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just ask Reagan if talks work. http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm Portions therein: Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States' intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and promoting peace. You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. And, you gotta know when to shoot and when to hold your fire. Of course, that assumes you've got something to shoot. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." But we haven't even TRIED yet to talk to Al Qaeda. You goose steppers won't even give them a chance to negotiate. How much madder to you want to make them? Oh. It's about talking to Al Qaeda. Not just them, the Talyban too. That's a lot of people to talk to. Narrow it down a bit and I'm sure Harry would volunteer to pop over there and negotiate a settlement for us. We just have to talk to the leaders, I'm sure the rest will fall in line. If we can stop them from hating us it will go along way towards stopping hate. Maybe we could use Harry's lobsta boat to sign the treaties on! What could we do or say or give them that would cause them stop hating us? |
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:28:22 -0500, "agent X"
wrote: What could we do or say or give them that would cause them stop hating us? Bubble gum. Or a Coke. |
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"agent X" wrote in message ... "Loogypicker" wrote in message news:1%Dxj.36736$v57.18776@trnddc05... "agent X" wrote in message ... "Loogypicker" wrote in message news:rtDxj.20772$Hd.17194@trnddc02... "John H." wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:35:22 GMT, "Loogypicker" wrote: "John H." wrote in message news:mfuds3tlbtv3g6gkcsb4vblfvl6ikgqpgl@4ax. com... On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:04:45 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote: wrote in message ... On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote: On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote: D-unit wrote: "Chuck Gould" wrote in message ... The price of a bbl of oil last night. Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state, is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year. Premium typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we have endured each of the last several years should be getting underway very soon, as the refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from winter to summer formulations. The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing infrastructure. When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford to fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters, many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise prioritize boating recreation. I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a "heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion profits it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being able to identify a solution. And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low. Ouch. db No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing. It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent to me, or if you ****ed me off? Can you spell A bomb? Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just ask Reagan if talks work. http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm Portions therein: Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States' intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and promoting peace. You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. And, you gotta know when to shoot and when to hold your fire. Of course, that assumes you've got something to shoot. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." But we haven't even TRIED yet to talk to Al Qaeda. You goose steppers won't even give them a chance to negotiate. How much madder to you want to make them? Oh. It's about talking to Al Qaeda. Not just them, the Talyban too. That's a lot of people to talk to. Narrow it down a bit and I'm sure Harry would volunteer to pop over there and negotiate a settlement for us. We just have to talk to the leaders, I'm sure the rest will fall in line. If we can stop them from hating us it will go along way towards stopping hate. Maybe we could use Harry's lobsta boat to sign the treaties on! What could we do or say or give them that would cause them stop hating us? We could start by saying we're sorry for blaming 9-11 on them. |
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:05:14 GMT, "Loogypicker"
wrote: We could start by saying we're sorry for blaming 9-11 on them. Will you freakin' morons learn how to snip posts? Damn - my scroll switch on the mouse is getting worn out. |
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Artie Choke wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:28:22 -0500, "agent X" wrote: What could we do or say or give them that would cause them stop hating us? Bubble gum. Or a Coke. I suggest we forward this email I just received and provide them an opportunity of a lifetime, if you look at the BBC link provided at the end of the email, you can see this is the real deal and is not a scam: MR ISA AMEDU, THE AUDITOR IN CHARGE AFRICAN DEVELOPMENT BANK(A.D.B) OUAGADOUGOU BURKINA-FASO WEST AFRICA. HELLO FRIEND, How are you doing,hope you are fine? now i have the intent to contact you over this financial transaction worth the sum of NINETEEN MILLION THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS (19,300,000.00) for our mutual benefit, this is an abandoned fund that belonged to one of our customer's who died along with his entire family through plane crash disaster since few years ago. meanwhile i was very fortunate to come across the deceased file when i was arranging the old and abandoned customers file in oder to sign and submit to the entire bank management for an official re-documentation and audit of the year against2008. Be informed clearly that it was stated in our banking rules and regulations which was signed lawfully that if such fund remains unclaimed till the period of 8years starting from the date of death of the customer,the money will be transfered into the bank treasury as an unclaimed fund. As an honour and advantage bestowed to our foriegn customers base on the rules guiding our bank, it was stated obviously that if you are not a citizen of Burkina-Faso,you have the absolute authority to claim the fund hence you are a foriegner despite your differences from country of origin of the deceased. on the transfer of this fund into your account,(39%)being(U.S$7,527,000.00)will be your share in respect of the account provision and your assistance rendered during the transfer of the fund into your bank account,(52%)being(U.S$10,036,000.00)will be my share being the coorfdinator and pillar of the transaction while the rest(9%)being(U.S$1,737,000.00)will be shared to the respectable charity homes which has been my second dream to be of help to humanity. Now,if you are really sure of your trustworthy,accountability and confidentiality on this transaction without dissapointment,reply&contact me through ) telephone number(00 226 78 217 634)for further details. i expect your letter. In other for you to beleive me honestly try and go through this (website)before you start with me. Below is the website. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/859479.stm ISAAMEDU....... |
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On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:04:12 GMT, Artie Choke wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:28:22 -0500, "agent X" wrote: What could we do or say or give them that would cause them stop hating us? Bubble gum. Or a Coke. Pizza - a nice New York style thin crust cheese pizza. Extra Large with extra cheese. And Valium - lots and lots of Valium. No Coke- Pepsi. |
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Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:05:14 GMT, "Loogypicker" wrote: We could start by saying we're sorry for blaming 9-11 on them. Will you freakin' morons learn how to snip posts? Damn - my scroll switch on the mouse is getting worn out. If you would learn to be polite and call them Mr. Morons you might get better results. |
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