On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:24:56 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Feb 25, 7:54?am, Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8667.html

The Clintons - who 'da thunk it? ?Even Lee A****er would never stoop
this low.

Scorched earth baby - scorched earth.

A photo of Obama eating watermelon and/or fried chicken can't be far
behind.

LOL!!

You know - that's exactly what I thought when I saw that.

Just shows how desperate the Clinton's are becoming. Strike one for
the Clinton's: When things get tense and difficult, resort to panic
and
try to manipulate opinion rather than solve the problem. Score one for
Obama? Maybe so, let's see if he handles these racial and religious
slams like a statesman, or like a vengeful child in a boating NG. :-)

He strikes me as sincere, but...

I'm not at all sure he's not just an empty suit with a good speil.
Hope, change and what not are all well and good, but after looking
through his campaign site and his ideas and proposals, it would seem
to me that he might just be another McGovern only with a more
messianic following.

Or worse, another Dukakis. He is good friends with Duval Patrick which
also bothers me quite a bit as Patrick is as tone deaf as any Democrat
could possibly be - Kuchinich type.

We'll see.

On Feb 25, 2:58�pm, Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:24:56 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould

wrote:
On Feb 25, 7:54?am, Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8667.html

The Clintons - who 'da thunk it? ?Even Lee A****er would never stoop
this low.

Scorched earth baby - scorched earth.

A photo of Obama eating watermelon and/or fried chicken can't be far
behind.

LOL!!

You know - that's exactly what I thought when I saw that.

Just shows how desperate the Clinton's are becoming. Strike one for
the Clinton's: When things get tense and difficult, resort to panic
and
try to manipulate opinion rather than solve the problem. Score one for
Obama? Maybe so, let's see if he handles these racial and religious
slams like a statesman, or like a vengeful child in a boating NG. :-)

He strikes me as sincere, but...

I'm not at all sure he's not just an empty suit with a good speil.
Hope, change and what not are all well and good, but after looking
through his campaign site and his ideas and proposals, it would seem
to me that he might just be another McGovern only with a more
messianic following.

Or worse, another Dukakis. He is good friends with Duval Patrick which
also bothers me quite a bit as Patrick is as tone deaf as any Democrat
could possibly be - Kuchinich type.

We'll see.

The rough guesstimate of an undecided independent:

McCain: Most "presidential" of the batch, has an encouraging history
of not automatically toeing the party line. Represents "politics as
usual", but with a guy at the helm a bit more independent than the
current prez and less susceptible to being manipulated by his
advisors.

Clinton: Old broad is as tough as nails (that's in her favor).
Probably represents the worst prospect for "politics as usual", with
policy being made in smoke-filled rooms and with a long list of
political favors to satisfy.

Obama: Best prospect for escaping the cycle of "poltics as usual", but
what does he offer except unusual politics? Many outsiders have been
ineffective in office.

Obama may have the highest IQ of the three, or may be about tied with
Clinton who is personally very bright. Even McCain appears much
smarter than the average person, so we can expect a substantial
improvement in that particular presidential quality regardless of the
outcome in November.

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:28:41 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

On Feb 25, 2:58?pm, Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 08:24:56 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould

wrote:
On Feb 25, 7:54?am, Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8667.html

The Clintons - who 'da thunk it? ?Even Lee A****er would never stoop
this low.

Scorched earth baby - scorched earth.

A photo of Obama eating watermelon and/or fried chicken can't be far
behind.

LOL!!

You know - that's exactly what I thought when I saw that.

Just shows how desperate the Clinton's are becoming. Strike one for
the Clinton's: When things get tense and difficult, resort to panic
and
try to manipulate opinion rather than solve the problem. Score one for
Obama? Maybe so, let's see if he handles these racial and religious
slams like a statesman, or like a vengeful child in a boating NG. :-)

He strikes me as sincere, but...

I'm not at all sure he's not just an empty suit with a good speil.
Hope, change and what not are all well and good, but after looking
through his campaign site and his ideas and proposals, it would seem
to me that he might just be another McGovern only with a more
messianic following.

Or worse, another Dukakis. He is good friends with Duval Patrick which
also bothers me quite a bit as Patrick is as tone deaf as any Democrat
could possibly be - Kuchinich type.

We'll see.

The rough guesstimate of an undecided independent:

McCain: Most "presidential" of the batch, has an encouraging history
of not automatically toeing the party line. Represents "politics as
usual", but with a guy at the helm a bit more independent than the
current prez and less susceptible to being manipulated by his
advisors.

Clinton: Old broad is as tough as nails (that's in her favor).
Probably represents the worst prospect for "politics as usual", with
policy being made in smoke-filled rooms and with a long list of
political favors to satisfy.

Obama: Best prospect for escaping the cycle of "poltics as usual", but
what does he offer except unusual politics? Many outsiders have been
ineffective in office.

Obama may have the highest IQ of the three, or may be about tied with
Clinton who is personally very bright. Even McCain appears much
smarter than the average person, so we can expect a substantial
improvement in that particular presidential quality regardless of the
outcome in November.

Nader is my man!
--
John H

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:00:16 -0500, John H.
wrote:


Nader is my man!

Take a trip to Winstead, CT and ask about Ralph Nader.

Report back when you are finished.

If you leave alive and not dismembered by the irate citizens of their
fair city when rendering their opinions on Raplhie boy. :)

On Feb 25, 9:21*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:00:16 -0500, John H.

wrote:

Nader is my man!

Take a trip to Winstead, CT and ask about Ralph Nader.

Report back when you are finished.

If you leave alive and not dismembered by the irate citizens of their
fair city when rendering their opinions on Raplhie boy. *:)

My mom went to school with him.... I will not guess as to her opinion
of him but she did not talk about it a lot

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:21:30 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:00:16 -0500, John H.
wrote:


Nader is my man!

Take a trip to Winstead, CT and ask about Ralph Nader.

Report back when you are finished.

If you leave alive and not dismembered by the irate citizens of their
fair city when rendering their opinions on Raplhie boy. :)

They put something in the water in Winsted. Interesting little town, but
more than a little strange.

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:04:25 -0000, wrote:

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:21:30 +0000, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:00:16 -0500, John H.
wrote:


Nader is my man!

Take a trip to Winstead, CT and ask about Ralph Nader.

Report back when you are finished.

If you leave alive and not dismembered by the irate citizens of their
fair city when rendering their opinions on Raplhie boy. :)

They put something in the water in Winsted. Interesting little town, but
more than a little strange.

True. Then again, they have a good reason to hate Nader.

Frankly, I don't blame them.

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:21:30 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:00:16 -0500, John H.
wrote:


Nader is my man!

Take a trip to Winstead, CT and ask about Ralph Nader.

Report back when you are finished.

If you leave alive and not dismembered by the irate citizens of their
fair city when rendering their opinions on Raplhie boy. :)

Tom, if Nader screws the Democrat pooch, then he's my man - regardless of
the folks in Winstead!
--
John H

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:05:27 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:21:30 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:00:16 -0500, John H.
wrote:


Nader is my man!

Take a trip to Winstead, CT and ask about Ralph Nader.

Report back when you are finished.

If you leave alive and not dismembered by the irate citizens of their
fair city when rendering their opinions on Raplhie boy. :)

Tom, if Nader screws the Democrat pooch, then he's my man - regardless of
the folks in Winstead!

Hey - I'm just sayin'... :)

Nader isn't going to have any imact on this election except for taking
out the fringe element and there is always that .00001% who will vote
for the fringe candidate.

On Feb 26, 8:21*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:05:27 -0500, John H.





wrote:
On Tue, 26 Feb 2008 02:21:30 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 21:00:16 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Nader is my man!

Take a trip to Winstead, CT and ask about Ralph Nader.

Report back when you are finished.

If you leave alive and not dismembered by the irate citizens of their
fair city when rendering their opinions on Raplhie boy. *:)

Tom, if Nader screws the Democrat pooch, then he's my man - regardless of
the folks in Winstead!

Hey - I'm just sayin'... *:)

Nader isn't going to have any imact on this election except for taking
out the fringe element and there is always that .00001% who will vote
for the fringe candidate.- Hide quoted text -

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You don't consider the most liberal, and third most liberal in
congress, fringe candidates?? I think nearly half the country will
vote for a fringe candidate this time around...