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D.Duck[_2_] February 17th 08 07:41 PM

HDTV
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:58:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:51:59 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

My day was great. I spent some bucks on fishing gear, and my wife
bought
me some new "resort" clothes for my trip next week.
I spent the afternoon with Mrs. H shopping for a stand for our new HDTV
as
we will be giving our old 36" RCA (1994 vintage) cathode ray and stand
to
our daughter since receiving our new 46" Sony HDTV.

The payoff was a great shrimp and crap dinner followed by a movie on
the new
TV.

BTW: Time Warner sucks big time as it does not appear to recognize
HDMI.
Although the S-Video input works on our box/set the HDMI input does
not,
despite swapping out TW HD boxes, HDMI cables and trying various
settings on
the new Sony.



JimH, is there a reason you must tell us for at least the third time
that
you're giving your 16 year-old TV to your daughter?

We all believe you are a most generous person!



I can't figure out what else he would have done with the TV, a 12 yr old
non digital, standard format TV has no value.


My math sucks!

Actually, if one has cable the company will rent a box that will enable
the
use of an analog TV when we go all digital next year. So, that TV will
still be have significant value.

Maybe about $4.37.
--
John H


Why would you have to do anything different when broadcast analog TV is
turned off and you have cable for your source? The cable company will
receive the digital video signals, as they do currently in some cases, and
pass an analog signal from their box to your TV.

I know for a fact that the satellite services will be that mode.



Don White February 17th 08 07:49 PM

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"HK" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:03:27 -0500, "Jim" wrote:

Putting Harry in the trash is like a taking a breath of fresh air.Try
it.
You might like it.
*************************************

Jim, do you not get a charge out of the antics of Harry and JimH? Hell,
watching them eat their foot with nasty comments ("Your house is
glass...")
and then suck up to get someone to talk to them is hilarious.

If I were to filter them, I'd never get to laugh at their antics.


--
John H

Not any more.It's getting kind of sickening actually. Harry is in the
dumpster and it's lit more pleasant reading the group now. But I'm still
seeing the second hand smoke from him. I wish a few more folks would dump
him or at least not quote him.



John H & Jim: proof that intelligence is *not* synergistic.


Besides, JohnH will never dump you now. He must be at least a couple
hundred jabs more on the receiving side.
Same as Skipper... he can't resist the urge to try and even the score...even
though he was constantly falling further behind.





Reginald P. Smithers III[_9_] February 17th 08 08:02 PM

HDTV
 
D.Duck wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:58:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:51:59 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

My day was great. I spent some bucks on fishing gear, and my wife
bought
me some new "resort" clothes for my trip next week.
I spent the afternoon with Mrs. H shopping for a stand for our new HDTV
as
we will be giving our old 36" RCA (1994 vintage) cathode ray and stand
to
our daughter since receiving our new 46" Sony HDTV.

The payoff was a great shrimp and crap dinner followed by a movie on
the new
TV.

BTW: Time Warner sucks big time as it does not appear to recognize
HDMI.
Although the S-Video input works on our box/set the HDMI input does
not,
despite swapping out TW HD boxes, HDMI cables and trying various
settings on
the new Sony.



JimH, is there a reason you must tell us for at least the third time
that
you're giving your 16 year-old TV to your daughter?

We all believe you are a most generous person!


I can't figure out what else he would have done with the TV, a 12 yr old
non digital, standard format TV has no value.

My math sucks!

Actually, if one has cable the company will rent a box that will enable
the
use of an analog TV when we go all digital next year. So, that TV will
still be have significant value.

Maybe about $4.37.
--
John H


Why would you have to do anything different when broadcast analog TV is
turned off and you have cable for your source? The cable company will
receive the digital video signals, as they do currently in some cases, and
pass an analog signal from their box to your TV.

I know for a fact that the satellite services will be that mode.



An analog TV with a conventional TV format, will still function with
cable, satellite or by using a converter box, but you will lose either
side of the transmission. It will be similar to when you watched a
movie on a regular TV and they did a poor job of pan and scan. You knew
you were missing something from your screen that you would see with
widescreen format. With TV they will not do pan and scan, you just
won't be able to see whatever is going on the sides. It is the reason
why conventional format TV are being sold so cheaply.

John H.[_3_] February 17th 08 09:04 PM

HDTV
 
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 14:41:41 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 09:58:30 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 21:51:59 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...

My day was great. I spent some bucks on fishing gear, and my wife
bought
me some new "resort" clothes for my trip next week.
I spent the afternoon with Mrs. H shopping for a stand for our new HDTV
as
we will be giving our old 36" RCA (1994 vintage) cathode ray and stand
to
our daughter since receiving our new 46" Sony HDTV.

The payoff was a great shrimp and crap dinner followed by a movie on
the new
TV.

BTW: Time Warner sucks big time as it does not appear to recognize
HDMI.
Although the S-Video input works on our box/set the HDMI input does
not,
despite swapping out TW HD boxes, HDMI cables and trying various
settings on
the new Sony.



JimH, is there a reason you must tell us for at least the third time
that
you're giving your 16 year-old TV to your daughter?

We all believe you are a most generous person!



I can't figure out what else he would have done with the TV, a 12 yr old
non digital, standard format TV has no value.


My math sucks!

Actually, if one has cable the company will rent a box that will enable
the
use of an analog TV when we go all digital next year. So, that TV will
still be have significant value.

Maybe about $4.37.
--
John H


Why would you have to do anything different when broadcast analog TV is
turned off and you have cable for your source? The cable company will
receive the digital video signals, as they do currently in some cases, and
pass an analog signal from their box to your TV.

I know for a fact that the satellite services will be that mode.


I don't think you'll have to do anything different if you have an analog TV
and cable. Cox, here, told me they'd have a box to convert the digital to
analog for those televisions.

It'll probably save the $5 extra they charge for a digital box.

Wonder if they'll have to stop that **** then?
--
John H

John H.[_3_] February 17th 08 09:05 PM

HDTV
 
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:49:03 -0400, "Don White"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:03:27 -0500, "Jim" wrote:

Putting Harry in the trash is like a taking a breath of fresh air.Try
it.
You might like it.
*************************************

Jim, do you not get a charge out of the antics of Harry and JimH? Hell,
watching them eat their foot with nasty comments ("Your house is
glass...")
and then suck up to get someone to talk to them is hilarious.

If I were to filter them, I'd never get to laugh at their antics.


--
John H
Not any more.It's getting kind of sickening actually. Harry is in the
dumpster and it's lit more pleasant reading the group now. But I'm still
seeing the second hand smoke from him. I wish a few more folks would dump
him or at least not quote him.



John H & Jim: proof that intelligence is *not* synergistic.


Besides, JohnH will never dump you now. He must be at least a couple
hundred jabs more on the receiving side.
Same as Skipper... he can't resist the urge to try and even the score...even
though he was constantly falling further behind.




Thanks, Don. I wasn't keeping score, but I'm glad to see I'm way behind!
--
John H

HK February 17th 08 10:42 PM

HDTV
 
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:03:27 -0500, "Jim" wrote:

Putting Harry in the trash is like a taking a breath of fresh air.Try
it.
You might like it.
*************************************

Jim, do you not get a charge out of the antics of Harry and JimH? Hell,
watching them eat their foot with nasty comments ("Your house is
glass...")
and then suck up to get someone to talk to them is hilarious.

If I were to filter them, I'd never get to laugh at their antics.


--
John H
Not any more.It's getting kind of sickening actually. Harry is in the
dumpster and it's lit more pleasant reading the group now. But I'm still
seeing the second hand smoke from him. I wish a few more folks would dump
him or at least not quote him.


John H & Jim: proof that intelligence is *not* synergistic.


Besides, JohnH will never dump you now. He must be at least a couple
hundred jabs more on the receiving side.
Same as Skipper... he can't resist the urge to try and even the score...even
though he was constantly falling further behind.




Wait until he's moved into the "retirement" home...

HK February 17th 08 11:11 PM

HDTV
 
JimH wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:


Besides, JohnH will never dump you now. He must be at least a couple
hundred jabs more on the receiving side.
Same as Skipper... he can't resist the urge to try and even the
score...even though he was constantly falling further behind.




Wait until he's moved into the "retirement" home...


He is obviously obsessed with both of us. He must really hate waking up
each morning knowing he has to live another life as John Herring so he vents
his anger here and directs it towards us.

The old man needs to move on with his life already and try to find some
happiness in it.




When I looked up Herring in my dictionary, I saw this illustration:

http://tinyurl.com/2vbgvw

HK February 17th 08 11:57 PM

HDTV
 
JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:54:05 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
Besides, JohnH will never dump you now. He must be at least a couple
hundred jabs more on the receiving side.
Same as Skipper... he can't resist the urge to try and even the
score...even though he was constantly falling further behind.




Wait until he's moved into the "retirement" home...

He is obviously obsessed with both of us. He must really hate waking up
each morning knowing he has to live another life as John Herring so he vents
his anger here and directs it towards us.

The old man needs to move on with his life already and try to find some
happiness in it.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Then you should do the same with JohnH. And he with you.

Or admit you aren't serious.


Eh? Come again?


It takes two. You aren't helping.

Eh?



In your case, Jackoff...pot, kettle, black.

John H.[_3_] February 18th 08 12:28 AM

HDTV
 
On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 18:31:00 -0500, JG2U wrote:

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 17:54:05 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:


Besides, JohnH will never dump you now. He must be at least a couple
hundred jabs more on the receiving side.
Same as Skipper... he can't resist the urge to try and even the
score...even though he was constantly falling further behind.




Wait until he's moved into the "retirement" home...


He is obviously obsessed with both of us. He must really hate waking up
each morning knowing he has to live another life as John Herring so he vents
his anger here and directs it towards us.

The old man needs to move on with his life already and try to find some
happiness in it.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Then you should do the same with JohnH. And he with you.

Or admit you aren't serious.


Eh? Come again?


It takes two. You aren't helping.

Eh?


Once upon a time JimH was having an argument with Harry. This was a couple
years ago, before they became BFF. In this particular argument, I disagreed
with JimH. I then received an email from JimH wondering how I could be his
friend and not agree with him. I told him friendship didn't mean agreement
with everything someone said.

He's been looking since then. And lying. And inserting fake posts. And so
on. Please don't think I'll ever respect JimH. Two days ago he was telling
Harry to go f*ck himself. Today they're BFF again. Something sick about
JimH.


--
John H

Sam[_3_] February 18th 08 02:23 AM

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I don't believe you can pass HD over S-video cables. You need
composite video or HDMI cables. And even if the program you are
watching Says it's broadcast in HD, Time Warner might not be
sending you HD. To be sure you are getting "all HDTV can be" watch
the OTA broadcast for free.
Someone else said the same thing but I can see a difference between
nonHD and HD channels.
If you're watching over S-Video you can not be watching in HD.


I understand that but the picture is still damn good and better than
with the composite cables. I will keep playing around to see if I
can get the HDMI to work.


No expert on this here, but my memory of hooking up an HD TV was that
there were five cables going from the cable box to the TV, and the HDMI
cable went from the DVD player to the TV.

Those are component cables. 3 for video and 2 for audio. I tried that
setup but the picture quality was not the best.



If you're getting a better picture from S-Video than from component
something is seriously wrong. Component is usually indistinguishable from
HDMI, sometimes it's even better, while S-Video can only pass a 480i
signal.

Make sure you're actually using component cables, and not standard
"composite" or audio type RCA cables. All component cables will have red,
green, and blue colored connectors.


You are right on all counts. Turns out the darn HDMI cable was defective
and the new picture is very impressive.

Having not viewed HDTV in the house prior to purchasing this new set what
I thought was HD while connected to the S-Video was obviously
not...........even though the picture was a big improvement from what we
had been getting.

This has been a learning process for me.........a process which will
continue as my next step is to calibrate the set using the Digital Video
Essentials program.

Again, thanks to all for helping me out. I guess the process would not
have been as painful as it was if the darn HDMI cable I initially
purchased was not defective. ;-)


No problem, we're all learning all the time....

Also, when you are ready to calibrate with DVE, make sure you watch the
whole DVD prior to making any adjustments (you can skip the audio sections
if you are not setting up a home theater/surround sound system). You will
also most likely be unimpressed with the calibration once you are complete
but resist the temptation to revert back to any of the standard settings.
Many people get used to the much brighter (and bluer) picture of the "out of
the box" settings and think the calibrated settings are too dark. Give it a
week of viewing before you compare the calibrated vs standard settings then
you will see just how bad the standard settings really are.





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