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On 14 Feb 2008 00:56:44 GMT, "John Q. Public" wrote:

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This is the exact model:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...on_cardiff.jpg

Blackie rules.

That ain't blackie!



The one I got is a "Blackie". And the one in the picture is. It's
Clapton's main ride.

Eisboch


They may call it that to help sell it, but it's not Blackie. Not even a
reproduction of the original Blackie. What you've got there is essentially
a
"Strat Plus" with a black finish.

Still a great guitar, though.



I don't know enough about them to disagree. All I know is that it is
advertised and sold as a "Blackie" and has the type of pickups that are
supposed to be unique to them. (forget what you call them)
What's the difference between what I bought and a authentic "Blackie"?

Eisboch

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On 14 Feb 2008 00:56:44 GMT, "John Q. Public" wrote:

In message , Eisboch
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alleged to have said:

This is the exact model:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...on_cardiff.jpg

Blackie rules.

That ain't blackie!



The one I got is a "Blackie". And the one in the picture is. It's
Clapton's main ride.

Eisboch


They may call it that to help sell it, but it's not Blackie. Not even a
reproduction of the original Blackie. What you've got there is
essentially a
"Strat Plus" with a black finish.

Still a great guitar, though.



I don't know enough about them to disagree. All I know is that it is
advertised and sold as a "Blackie" and has the type of pickups that are
supposed to be unique to them. (forget what you call them)
What's the difference between what I bought and a authentic "Blackie"?

Eisboch


After reading the "Story" at the following link, I'd agree that the guitar I
bought isn't a "true" Blackie replication, even though it's advertised as a
"Blackie".

Either that, or I got one heck of a deal!!

http://www.fender.com/blackie/blackie_home.html

Eisboch

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On 14 Feb 2008 00:56:44 GMT, "John Q. Public" wrote:

In message , Eisboch
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alleged to have said:

This is the exact model:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...on_cardiff.jpg

Blackie rules.

That ain't blackie!



The one I got is a "Blackie". And the one in the picture is. It's
Clapton's main ride.

Eisboch


They may call it that to help sell it, but it's not Blackie. Not even a
reproduction of the original Blackie. What you've got there is
essentially a
"Strat Plus" with a black finish.

Still a great guitar, though.



I don't know enough about them to disagree. All I know is that it is
advertised and sold as a "Blackie" and has the type of pickups that are
supposed to be unique to them. (forget what you call them)
What's the difference between what I bought and a authentic "Blackie"?

Eisboch


After reading the "Story" at the following link, I'd agree that the guitar I
bought isn't a "true" Blackie replication, even though it's advertised as a
"Blackie".

Either that, or I got one heck of a deal!!

http://www.fender.com/blackie/blackie_home.html

Eisboch


You would think that with only 275 made, they'd be numbered as limited
editions.
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John H

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On 14 Feb 2008 00:56:44 GMT, "John Q. Public" wrote:

In message , Eisboch
is
alleged to have said:

This is the exact model:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...on_cardiff.jpg

Blackie rules.

That ain't blackie!



The one I got is a "Blackie". And the one in the picture is. It's
Clapton's main ride.

Eisboch


They may call it that to help sell it, but it's not Blackie. Not even a
reproduction of the original Blackie. What you've got there is
essentially a
"Strat Plus" with a black finish.

Still a great guitar, though.



I don't know enough about them to disagree. All I know is that it is
advertised and sold as a "Blackie" and has the type of pickups that are
supposed to be unique to them. (forget what you call them)
What's the difference between what I bought and a authentic "Blackie"?

Eisboch


After reading the "Story" at the following link, I'd agree that the guitar I
bought isn't a "true" Blackie replication, even though it's advertised as a
"Blackie".

Either that, or I got one heck of a deal!!

http://www.fender.com/blackie/blackie_home.html

Eisboch


You've probably seen this site. It gives a lot of information on the
replicas sold.

http://gc.guitarcenter.com/clapton/detail.cfm?tabgray=2
--
John H

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That ain't blackie!



They may call it that to help sell it, but it's not Blackie. Not even a
reproduction of the original Blackie. What you've got there is
essentially a
"Strat Plus" with a black finish.

Still a great guitar, though.



I don't know enough about them to disagree. All I know is that it is
advertised and sold as a "Blackie" and has the type of pickups that are
supposed to be unique to them. (forget what you call them)
What's the difference between what I bought and a authentic "Blackie"?

Eisboch


After reading the "Story" at the following link, I'd agree that the guitar
I
bought isn't a "true" Blackie replication, even though it's advertised as
a
"Blackie".

Either that, or I got one heck of a deal!!

http://www.fender.com/blackie/blackie_home.html

Eisboch


You've probably seen this site. It gives a lot of information on the
replicas sold.

http://gc.guitarcenter.com/clapton/detail.cfm?tabgray=2
--
John H


Salty is correct. Mine is not one of the limited production replication
Blackies. It's not aged and the back of the body is different. It looks
like a Blackie, before aging, is called a Blackie and has the "Eric Clapton"
signature on the headstock beside the "Stratocaster" title, but, like he
says, it's basically a black Stat Plus.

Eisboch

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Salty is correct. Mine is not one of the limited production replication
Blackies. It's not aged and the back of the body is different. It
looks like a Blackie, before aging, is called a Blackie and has the "Eric
Clapton" signature on the headstock beside the "Stratocaster" title, but,
like he says, it's basically a black Stat Plus.

Eisboch


I just noticed that the headstock also has "Blackie" printed below Eric
Clapton's signature.
So, technically it *is* a "Blackie", but it's not a Blackie. Or something
like that.

Eisboch

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On 14 Feb 2008 00:56:44 GMT, "John Q. Public" wrote:

In message , Eisboch
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alleged to have said:

This is the exact model:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...on_cardiff.jpg

Blackie rules.

That ain't blackie!



The one I got is a "Blackie". And the one in the picture is. It's
Clapton's main ride.

Eisboch


They may call it that to help sell it, but it's not Blackie. Not even a
reproduction of the original Blackie. What you've got there is
essentially
a
"Strat Plus" with a black finish.

Still a great guitar, though.



I don't know enough about them to disagree. All I know is that it is
advertised and sold as a "Blackie" and has the type of pickups that are
supposed to be unique to them. (forget what you call them)
What's the difference between what I bought and a authentic "Blackie"?

Eisboch


Those pickups are called "Lace Sensors". The original Blackie was made
30 years before they were invented.

BTW - Your local guitar shop wants to charge you 50-70 dollars to drop
in a new reverb tank that retails for half that amount. The "labor"
consists of R&R of 2 mounting screws, and plugging in 2 rca cables.

I even found you an online amp parts place. Ther may be other that are
even cheaper. Hopefully your guitar shop didn't buy a case of $5
taiwanese tanks, which are NOT going to sound the same.

http://www.ampwares.com/reverb.html


Why lug your amp back and forth to the shop needlessly?




Thanks. I've already removed the "tank", so I'll call them and order a
replacement for the Mesa Boogie original.

I appreciate your knowledge of the Fender also. The subject may be boring
others to tears, but I've learned a lot.
Apparently, the guitar I bought is the one described at the following link,
because it has the newer "noiseless" pickups. It also apparently has a
battery powered preamp as described, which explains why it's output is so
high compared to my other electrics. I have to figure out where the
battery is. There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't
seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a wood
block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff.

Here's the link:

http://www.kellyindustries.com/guita...c_clapton.html

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

.. There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't
seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a wood
block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff.


Tremlo bar = idiot stick.

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Eisboch wrote:

. There was also a tremolo bar in the hardcase but it didn't
seem to work when I screwed it in. Now, I understand that there's a wood
block you have to remove somehow. Fun stuff.


Tremlo bar = idiot stick.

I decided not to try to use it. Even Fender does not recommend it and says
the block under the bridge on this particular guitar is not intended to be
removed although it can be done if you are so inclined.

The only reason the bar is included in the production version of the
"Blackie" is because Clapton's original that he built out of several used
Strats had one and Fender wanted to preserve as much of the original design
as possible.

Turns out, there's an interesting story behind the "Blackie" model.

Eisboch

On Feb 15, 9:56*am, "Eisboch" wrote:


Turns out, there's an interesting story behind the "Blackie" model.

Eisboch

Well? Get another cup of coffee and start frekin' typing..

BTW, do you know of anyone "local" (tri state area) who sets up and/or
works on electric guitars?